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HUH??? And you know this how? Are you a programmer? Are you an Apple programmer? Are you involved in programming the tvOS? If not, then how can you intelligently and logically make such a statement. Where do these statement come from?

Who pissed in your Cheerios?

I have a small amount of a programming background, no I don't program for tvOS, but my opinion on the matter is my opinion and a rather good one. Do you have an opinion on the matter and what is it based off?
 
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I agree the new keyboard is a pain to use - but I don't think bluetooth keyboards or remote app are the way to go.

There is a touch-pad on the remote. C'mon people, the best entry-method is right there! Let people draw letters using their finger on the touchpad area as input. That would be the best! This text-input method is already used in some luxury cars and works very well.

Sounds like an interesting solution, but one potentially looking for a problem. For navigation Apple has given us a very functional new remote. For text entry nothing beats a keyboard. I can appreciate that Apple may want us to move in a different direction but
How dare Apple stop supporting 5 year old hardware with the latest and greatest features!

I think they need to step back with the next OS X release and ensure it works on the AppleII while we are at it.

In general you are correct. However, given that Apple is continuing to sell the ATV3 as a viable 2nd-tier solution it is not unreasonable to expect them to continue updating it. I'm not thinking of support for tvOS, but at least continue adding core 'channels', bug fixes, etc. Maybe even update the UI a little to better resemble the TV.
 
Sounds like an interesting solution, but one potentially looking for a problem. For navigation Apple has given us a very functional new remote. For text entry nothing beats a keyboard. I can appreciate that Apple may want us to move in a different direction but

Sure - of course text entry is best with a keyboard. But a keyboard isn't always practical or desirable, especially with converged devices. Heck, I use a bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone for texts while I'm at work. But I don't want to carry around a keyboard with me all the time, and the on-screen touchscreen keyboard is good enough when out and about, even if it's not the best.

Likewise, I don't want to keep a keyboard near my couch or coffee table. In a once-in-a-while situation, it would be nice to be able to use one, such as entering passwords at first setup. But I don't want it to be the primary text entry method. The on-screen keyboard in tvOS is not very good mostly because it is slow - that is the problem. It takes a few dozen swipes to enter w1z4Rd, yet I can draw those letters and numbers with my thumb in less than 5 seconds on the trackpad. To that end, the solution seems like a perfect fit to the problem the current on-screen keyboard presents.

And I swear... wiz4Rd is not my password. Please nobody try it.
 
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Hope it fixes the movie streaming bug for Home Sharing. It pauses the movie every couple of minutes. Man I hope that's fixed!
Our ATV4 seems to hit a wall about 45-50 mins of streaming, whether it be through the Internet (iTunes TV show/movies, Netflix, etc) or intranet (Home Sharing). Tried starting all network associated devices and computer to see if that solves it.
 
Game Centre implementation is a disaster

I installed a game (manticore rising) and uninstalled it and prompted me to remove from game centre which I selected yes... guess what its still there. Unlike game centre on iOS where I can swipe to delete games entries manually on the apple tv there is no such way to do that. So that 1 game badge is going to be there forever. (yes this was my first and only game)

When U sign out of game centre on the apple tv and try to sign in again it tells u to sign in to view leadership scores and all that... but again there is no way u can do this on the apple tv.

edit: not fixed in this new version yet.
 
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Anyone else having issues with Music streaming on ATV4 64GB? The mini twos update did not solve the issue ;(. It's only on Apple music, having the monthly subscription .. after, 1, 2 tracks music stops. With web radios all fine, no issues..

I'm having that problem on my 32GB, and it's driving me a bit crazy. No issues on my iphone or macbook, but the ATV hangs up way too often. I even ran an ethernet cable to it to see if it was a wifi thing, but no luck.
 
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Hope it fixes the movie streaming bug for Home Sharing. It pauses the movie every couple of minutes. Man I hope that's fixed!

By my estimation, the ATV4 only seems to buffer 130-160MB of video. The ATV3 would try to buffer over 6GB. Was watching an HD movie the other day - that only added up to 3 mins of video in reserve. So now I can't scan ahead to any part of the movie without incurring loading times. But that's not the worst part. The buffer doesn't always try to immediately refill while it's being used. Not such a problem for an SD show and 160MB gets you 15 mins, but with HD the buffering bug was getting exposed every 10 mins or so, resulting in 1-2 second pauses.
 
This is the type of update that one wouldn't expect from a polished product. Why release new hardware and software if a stability and general improvement update was just around the corner. I don't like this general attitude of release it now, fix and improve it later.

Absurd post considering you have no idea what the update contains or why it was released when it was.
 
Not true, you must be a developer to download it.

You have to be a developer to download the 9.1 beta which is also there. But you do NOT have to be a developer to download the 9.0.1 public update from there.

I know. I am a developer and have to login with my developer id to get the beta.

But clicking on the ispw link for the public release of 9.0.1 does not prompt me for my developer id login details.

So anyone can download the 9.0.1 one, not just developers.

I don't know if you realized that there are 2 ipsw links there, one for 9.1 beta for developers only - and 9.0.1 public update - for anyone, not just developers.
 
It fixed an issue that I had, where the Apple TV wouldn't respond to my remote or lag when waking it up.
 
This is the type of update that one wouldn't expect from a polished product. Why release new hardware and software if a stability and general improvement update was just around the corner. I don't like this general attitude of release it now, fix and improve it later.

Because they freeze the software that actually go into the released product WAY BEFORE THE RELEASE DATE.
You don't want at the last minute to introduce some major issue by updating the software that goes in it right up to release. So, you have to accept that some small bugs will go in; as long as there aren't major ones, this is acceptable.
If they didn't do that, the products would wind up with issues that they don't even know how to fix!
That's pretty bad for tech or customer support.

Anyway, that's how it's always done.

During this time, the software continues developing and those small bugs gets fixed and tested, in parallel with product being rolled out.

It's preposterous to you because you're successfully brainwashed into thinking that software deserves to be excused from all preexisting consumer protection laws and engineering sensibility.

Yes, you do have to stop fiddling and ship at some point. But that's not the problem with this industry.

Really, I've worked in engineering for 30 years and unless your release date is extremely flexible (defense maybe...), you accept minor bugs in the system when it is released. If you work on systems with thousands of nodes and several million lines of codes in several integrated products developed in parallel. Expecting no bug would be idiotic unless time and money is unlimited... And even there there is plenty to proof that this is not the case even for those lucky bastards ;-).

So, you freeze everything weeks or months before release; better a well characterized minor bug with a workaround, you tell the client you can fix soon, than a unknown one with unknown consequences you can't fix!

A lot of time, the client is ready to live with the bug, to get the system/product earlier.
We're not talking catastrophic show stoppers here.
 
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The "logic" serves my and others argument perfectly in fact thank you ;)... In fact I'll repost it now to share the realities of what either not updating or not even being allowed to update can do to ones devices.
Thanks, but no need. It still isn't germane to the topic of release and fix regarding the ATV4.;) You're posting to share the realities of an answer to a question that was never asked. No one, not one single person, posited the ATV4 shouldn't be updated.

Basically it sounds like your implying that it's better to buy a device that can basically be bricked or outdated (per say) by not being able to be updated versus a company that routinely supports all its recent devices to ensure they operate and safely I might add (to the best of their ability) ? Is that right?
Not sure what you read in my post, but your interpretation was woefully incorrect. Nothing in my post comes close to implying I'm an advocate of not updating a device. If you can find anything to contrary, I'll be more than happy to address it.

That chart you blasted obviously raises your ire because it's proof positive that other platforms are failing its customers at the ability to update and foremost protect themselves.
Get real man.
Honestly, that chart, and the arguments surrounding it couldn't raise the ire of a middle school debate team member. The chart and the arguments are nothing more than deflection. Shifting the focus from release and fix on the ATV4 to Android's adoption rate is tantamount to pointing and saying, "Hey, look over there."

So to be clear I'm in full support of updates on all my devices whenever Apple feels like it - yea even if it's the same week the product goes on sale. Big deal. Thank you :)
Thanks for clearing that up since I was under the impression you were against updates on devices. :rolleyes: I'll give credit where credit is due. You built an impressive narrative; flawed, but impressive nonetheless. If you're up to it, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the actual topic of release then fix (being serious). If it helps, leave the ATV4 out of your answer. Just release then fix, generally speaking.
 
Would automobiles be sold with only a "few" bugs. I think not. Not that they are perfect, but..........
Given all the recalls you hear (from airbags to brakes and steering wheel oh and let's not forget cheating softwares) I would say YES automobiles are sold with with MANY bugs!

Edit (Toyota has announced a global recall of 6.5 million cars to fix power window switches that can short circuit and catch fire) this just in October
 
This happens to me on the iPhone and Mac, haven't tried it on my Apple TV yet
Thanks, let me know when tested please, would be keen to hear if this is only on my end; PS; Movie and Serie streaming are working without any issues or delays ..

okay, at least am not alone! I'm on ethernet cable too, avoiding WIFI noise. Hmm
 
The Good: only took a few minutes to update.
The Bad: Looks like this update does nothing to address the horrible on screen keyboard
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This keyboard popped up once for me on the ATV 4 on Sunday, but only once, how weird is that?!?
It was actually on the screen after waking it up...

Gary
 
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Apple has not provided release notes for the tvOS 9.0.1 update, so the exact details on what's new are not yet known. Any discoveries we make will be added to this post.

Article Link: Apple Releases tvOS 9.0.1 Update for Apple TV[/QUOTE]

-This update addresses an issue where Apple Music members, who subscribed through carrier Telstra in Australia, could not access Apple Music features, "For You","New" etc.
 
Not sure if its an Apple TV issue or Netflix, but streaming is consistently interrupted with a server error. This problem didn't exist until I switched out my Apple TV (3G) to the new 32GB Apple TV.
 
This is the type of update that one wouldn't expect from a polished product. Why release new hardware and software if a stability and general improvement update was just around the corner. I don't like this general attitude of release it now, fix and improve it later.

That's not how development works. Things have a certain timeline. The product should be in a good/stable condition at ship date. That does not mean bug and issue free. It means that 99% of the time it'll be fine. Doing updates and fixes is nothing to be ashamed of, it's what makes a product and a company great. Apple can put out releases whenever they're ready and users get them straight away, unlike what happens with competitor's products. If software companies waited to ship something until it had no issue, do you know when the ship date would be? Never. Things always pop up, you have to know how to prioritize.
 
Darn. It downloaded super fast. Must be a tiny update! Nearly done already. Nice to know Apple are ironing out the problems so fast though. Thank you Apple.
Update changed nothing though, still having an issue where I've got to turn my Samsung tv off and back on to get the ATV to send out a signal... Reported to Apple when first noticed the issue
 
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