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From a tech perspective, this should satisfy all the MP mini-tower people.

It's amazing to think about, but by this time next year all but the lowest end mac products (desktop and portable) could be quadcore + :D
 
You are correct Sir, desktop version it is

Highly doubt that considering the power draw from the desktop part. It would require more involved cooling, larger fans, larger/beefier power supply, etc.

The desktop part uses something like 100 watts by itself. Extremely hard to believe Apple would go that route.
 
Agreed. I just don't understand; but I have a feeling I'll always have to live with it. Eh, just makes it that much easier to justify a Mac Pro :)

Absolutely! I need Mac Pro for work as I do Maya etc. but even if I didn't need that power I would probably still get it as its more future proof and more expandable than the imacs.
 
Agreed. They're the same. Most of the differentiation is at the platform level, not the core level.
I understand the platform differences because there are differences.

Highly doubt that considering the power draw from the desktop part. It would require more involved cooling, larger fans, larger/beefier power supply, etc.

The desktop part uses something like 100 watts by itself. Extremely hard to believe Apple would go that route.
TDP isn't power draw. Take a look at the power supply on the 27" model too.
 
Highly doubt that considering the power draw from the desktop part. It would require more involved cooling, larger fans, larger/beefier power supply, etc.

The desktop part uses something like 100 watts by itself. Extremely hard to believe Apple would go that route.

The new 27" system uses 350w (from apple.com).

95w tdp for the desktop core i7-860, it can fit in there.

AND, the 27" IS thicker than the 21.5" so they have cleared some room in it (for cooling most likely).
 
They are not the same architecture whatsoever. There are large differences between bloomfield and lynnfield. Bloomfield/X58 is better and that is what I will be going for when I make my new PC here soon. It will run at 4ghz, have 12 GB's of 1600 ddr3 (the new imacs run 1066), and have a better graphics card all for 1000 or so. It will be better than any mac machine by leaps and bounds, outside of the dual proc mac pro, and yet it will still outperform that machine in most cases. And all at a fraction of the price. Heck it's the same price as one of the mac mini's even! A joke.

I am pretty sure I am moving most of my work over to Windows 7. All things taken into account it's a superior operating system, whereas before I liked Leopard more than Vista (and especially XP) in general. But W7 is pretty great. I will keep using the apple laptops because I program some Apple software, but I won't be using their desktop "solutions" unless something drastically changes. I am not a fan boy of ANY OS or company. I use whatever the best offerings are, to get my work done (software dev, web dev, video editing, music composition, some other stuff). Right now it's definitely not OSX, or Apple, for many reasons.

I still can't believe they got rid of the 24 inch model. A 21.5 1920x1080 and a 27 inch 2560x1440 choice is completely asinine, especially paired with the graphics options they have. It's laughable. If the 21.5 had an i5 with the 4850 at the same base price, I'd say it was an ok choice for a general user. Assuming they could replace the hard drive themselves. So again, an ok update, but certainly not a "great" one.

The new mouse looks neat though. Might want to try that with my laptop.

Please go and enjoy your Win-7 PC. Your defection isn't going to stop Apple from selling a mountain of these.

PS, good luck getting 27" LED backlit IPS panel display for your $1000 PC and keeping the price competitive with the new iMac.
 
Aluminum all 'round, desktop specs, on and on. nice update. Surprised they didn't have an event. There's your X-Mac whiners. Oh, I forgot, you still don't have blueray. OK, you can still whine.

So, Apple's added midrange quad-cores to a system which still is difficult to open, has very limited upgrades, has no PCIe slots, only supports one internal disk, ties you to a so-so graphics card, and makes you throw away both your computer and your monitor when either becomes obsolete (or dies).

In other words, it's still an all-in-one.
 
I really like the 27" model expect for a few things.

-No Blu-Ray
-No USB 3.0
-No 3, 6, or 12 GB RAM option.

It is my understanding that the Core i7 works best with Tri-Channel RAM.
 
I really like the 27" model expect for a few things.

-No Blu-Ray
-No USB 3.0
-No 3, 6, or 12 GB RAM option.

It is my understanding that the Core i7 works best with Tri-Channel RAM.

This i7 is dual-channel only, as its a socket LGA 1156 (P55).
 
So, Apple's added midrange quad-cores to a system which still is difficult to open, has very limited upgrades, has no PCIe slots, only supports one internal disk (and only 1TB?), ties you to a so-so graphics card, and makes you throw away both your computer and your monitor when either becomes obsolete (or dies).

In other words, it's still an all-in-one.

And? They make Mac Pro for people who want alternatives. I would also expect some seriously heavy hitting Mac Pro refreshes early next year. Dual CPU Gulftown with the latest ATI cards should move a ways towards shutting up all the complainers. Oh, forgot, costs money. Never Mind. :rolleyes:

The desktop, like it or not, is a dying breed. For those who want a desktop Apple makes the Pro. For regular consumers the iMac is extremely appealing. I used to want an X-Tower too, but I'm over it.
 
Blu-Ray would've absolutely sealed the deal for me. Oh well, I'll sit and wait until May 2010 with my fingers crossed.

:apple:
 
Am I the only one sick of macrumours forums members mentioning Windows 7 in every second post of theirs? We get it. It's better than Vista. But no: It's NOT better than Mac OS X. The race is still on but so far Apple is winning in my book (says a proud PPC user :))

And yay for the new updates. A certainly welcome addition for good money. Maybe sometime next year I will upgrade but so far I'm still damn happy with my Powermac G4.
 
Blu-Ray would've absolutely sealed the deal for me. Oh well, I'll sit and wait until May 2010 with my fingers crossed.

:apple:

I will be waiting with you. Crossing my fingers for a Blu-ray drive and 5xxx series graphics card in that gorgeous 27" iMac for May 2010!
 
u need to change your optician, the one that tells you that only the very latest stuff is nice

I didn't say it wasn't nice, although I never really liked the alu iMacs much but they do look better with just screen all the way to the edge. The old graphite grey G3 iMacs are still my favourites anyway! (and I don't need glasses) :p:p
 
, and makes you throw away both your computer and your monitor when either becomes obsolete (or dies).
In other words, it's still an all-in-one.

Not true. You can use it as a smallish DisplayPort Monitor when you upgrade to the 16 core iMac in a couple of years. You also can use iChat 3-D with the two built in iSights on both machines. ;)
 
So, Apple's added midrange quad-cores to a system which still is difficult to open, has very limited upgrades, has no PCIe slots, only supports one internal disk (and only 1TB?), ties you to a so-so graphics card, and makes you throw away both your computer and your monitor when either becomes obsolete (or dies).

In other words, it's still an all-in-one.

the imac is quite a bit easier to open then you lead on. I've done upgrades to numerous ones and had no problem with them. and the internal disks can go up to 2tbs, not just 1tb. Have fun with your wind-OWNED-s computer if you are that disgustes
 
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