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Dell/HP/etc offer affordable, expandable mini-towers - so nobody wants an all-in-one.

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What kind of logic is that? Have you not noticed almost every major company are putting out AIO's? Clearly there is a market for them.
 
Exactly - Apple's other non-laptop offerings are not interesting, so the Imac sells.

Dell/HP/etc offer affordable, expandable mini-towers - so nobody wants an all-in-one.
I don't understand why a lot of people equate a mini-tower to being an upgrade enthusiast. Mini-towers are just so cheap. There are plenty of SFF options as well. Wireless input devices are becoming standard too.

Dell and many other vendors have come out with all-in-one options but the sales are just killed by the standard old mini-tower.

What kind of logic is that? Have you not noticed almost every major company are putting out AIO's? Clearly there is a market for them.
They don't seem to sell though. I've looked into it and customers still say "lets get that cheaper mini-tower" when it comes to everyone but Apple.
 
Apple just got my money for a 27" model. I was on the fence between IMAC and PC and Apple just pushed me off the fence. I am now a convert.

I guess I better buy Mac for dummies. ;)

Cheers
Jim
 
I'm quite pleased with this update. I thought I was going to be disappointed but I definitely want a new iMac. :D
 
Personally, I would exchange it as the display is several orders of magnitude better and you likely get a bump up in processor power too (though I don't know the specs of the machine you recently purchased). The switch from 24" to 21.5" will be minimal as the newer computer has a wider aspect and will be close in size to the old one.

Thank you so much! My specs are: 2.66 processor w/ 4GB 1067 Mhz Does that change your opinion? I do think the more rectangle screen would be a nicer look as well as upgrading the specs, right? And, I would save $300. Advice?
 
They don't seem to sell though. I've looked into it and customers still say "lets get that cheaper mini-tower" when it comes to everyone but Apple.

Thats because they are much more expensive than your regular Dell/HP/etc. Apple moves so many imacs precisely because they don't offer a mini tower, and I'm sure their stockholders thank them for it. ;)
 
I don't understand why a lot of people equate a mini-tower to being an upgrade enthusiast.

I think that it's the freedom to cheaply expand at the time of sale. I won't argue that the vast majority of systems aren't upgraded from the time that they leave the store - but I will argue that the "Geek Squad" and other in-house upgrades at the point of sale are important.

Want more memory, better video, more or bigger hard drives - easy to do with a mini-tower or even SFF.
 
Thats because they are much more expensive than your regular Dell/HP/etc. Apple moves so many imacs precisely because they don't offer a mini tower, and I'm sure their stockholders thank them for it. ;)
I understand the profit part. :p

At my previous job we had to order Mac minis because the IT director didn't want all-in-one machines. He didn't want to loose an entire machine because it had to be sent back home whole. We were still using Power Mac G4s too. :eek:

Dual core Mac minis were screamers for Word and FileMaker. :rolleyes:

I think that it's the freedom to cheaply expand at the time of sale. I won't argue that the vast majority of systems aren't upgraded from the time that they leave the store - but I will argue that the "Geek Squad" and other in-house upgrades at the point of sale are important.

Want more memory, better video, more or bigger hard drives - easy to do with a mini-tower or even SFF.
I've noticed an increase in low-profile GPUs and other expansion cards lately. Dell and HP must be selling enough slim SFF desktops to create a market for all that.

You've mentioned the point of sale upgrades before but I have my doubts. That's just me though. Don't take it too hard.
 
Curious as to why "eww, 16:9" when previously they were a near-identical 16:10, except now HD content can be shown natively without letterboxing. It's a bit wider of a ratio, too, which is always nice.
Personal preference. I don't think wider is nicer: 16:10 was bad enough. My main screen is a 4:3 CRT, and many of my photographs are in portrait orientation. :rolleyes:

And for anyone saying "holy cow, 27" is gigantic"... the bigger cinema displays are an even bigger 30" and people have been using them for years...
I haven't.
 
I bought the Peachpit Learning Series for Mac OSX 10.6 and it is great~ Reads as if a friend is talking to you and it is better than Visually Teach Yourself or Mac for Dummies (IMHO) It took me just a day or so to navigate around and I signed up for the One to One...well worth the money. I LOVE my Mac and will never go back!

Apple just got my money for a 27" model. I was on the fence between IMAC and PC and Apple just pushed me off the fence. I am now a convert.

I guess I better buy Mac for dummies. ;)

Cheers
Jim
 
Can someone please explain something to me about these processors? Is the only reason why the 27 inch iMac has the i5/i7 processors is because it is bigger (can spread the heat around more) or because it is just the top-end model? Theoretically, could they put the i5/i7 in the 21 incher without it melting?
 
I'm still confused about this. Apple making ridiculous margins and profits is a good thing for me? Everyone keeps trying to sell that to me but I don't understand.

What does buying a computer have to do with quarterly profits? If my opinions aren't what Apple is doing someone is going to trot out how much money Apple is making just to get me to be quiet. That alongside how I should just stop crying and buy a Windows machine. How is that a solution again when I want to run OS X?

The part you don't get is that those high profits allow Apple to continue to innovate in exciting ways, doing things such as unibody construction on computers when noone else is. Having more market power to buy higher quality components for their machines at reasonable prices, etc.

Go check on the situation with Dell, HP and others. Isn't so rosy over there. They are selling machines but their innovation and mindshare is plummeting.

If you think other vendors offer you better value then as previously suggested buy the competitor box, or, build a Hackentosh and deal with all the problems that entails.
 
srrsly!!! So pissed about this.

21" is too small and 27" is just too big. 24" was perfect.

I have a 30" screen as 1 of 4 attached to my 1st gen Intel Mac Pro. I was hoping that Apple would add a 37" or 42" model with much higher resolution than the current 30" model. Say at least 3840 X 2400. 16 X 10 is better for computers. 16 X 9 is for movies at this stage.

The 27" model is an improvement over the older smaller 24" model, but it lack the bottom 10% of the screen that is needed for computer work. As a BluRay display that extra space is not needed. But it seemed to miss both of these points. After using the 30" screen for 3 years I feel that it is too small. Try a 27" model you may like it.
 
AGREED!

I would love for one of you Apple fanbois to explain to me why you continually defend Apple for snubbing BR. What good does it do to put such a high tech LCD screen in the iMac (27" better than 1080p, according to the video) and NOT support high definition DVD's?? This makes absolutely no sense and can only be explained by blind Apple love! :rolleyes:

It's because Blu Ray Sucks. lol

No but really I just don't care wether it has blu ray or not. For me and I think a decent amount of people don't have a need for it.

Streaming movies is the way to go. I understand that is not for everyone.

And for the "What good does it do to put such a high tech LCD screen in the iMac (27" better than 1080p, according to the video) and NOT support high definition DVD's?"

You don't only use the monitor for movies, Photos will look amazing on this monitor, the added resolution will really help. Web developers/designers love big screens because you can see the entire page your working on with out any scrolling.

So many people are also getting high def. cameras now so editing those movies are a large screen is just so much more enjoyable.

I just wish someone would come out with a 27in monitor with this res. I can't afford a 30in display, and a 24in is starting to feel too small for me. And every 27in monitor around has a 1920x1080 res which I hate.
 
The part you don't get is that those high profits allow Apple to continue to innovate in exciting ways, doing things such as unibody construction on computers when noone else is.
Please elaborate because all you hear about is the record breaking quarter and profits.

Having more market power to buy higher quality components for their machines at reasonable prices, etc.
How did you come up with this one?
 
HDTV can be shown without letterboxing, DVD and BD content will still be letter-boxed.
That's a terrible, all-encompassing statement which is not accurate.

Blu-ray and DVD content can be encoded at a 16:9 ratio just fine. Considering there are many TV shows now available on DVDs and Blu-rays, they can use the full aspect ratio of the monitor as intended.

Movies, on the other hand, are most often shot in one of two ratios: 1.85:1, and 2.40:1. 1.85:1 is so close to 16:9 it's largely considered a wash, but in any case, it's closer to 16:9 than 16:10 (the old iMac standard). There would be generous letterboxing on 2.40:1 content on either computer.

So the point is that the new aspect more closely matches the format of available consumer products, whereas the old monitor does not.
 
2.8 Core i7, 8 gigs of RAM (4x2), ATI 4850, 2 TB, 27" LED iMac just ordered! I am very happy. I also picked up a new printer (Canon 860) which is wireless. I will eventually upgrade my Time Capsule too, but that can wait.

I really am excited about the Magic Mouse and the new remote too.

A good day:D
 
My point being is that this the same situation in Windows without the addition of 3rd party software. Windows does not natively support the play back of of Blu-Ray movies. Why not? Fair question, don't you think?
Except that no 3rd party software exists for the Mac. I don't think anyone really cares what software is used, just that the content can be played. However, Windows computers can be configured with an internal Blu-ray drive, whereas Apple does not offer this option.
 
Wow.

A 9400M on a 21.5" screen and no BTO. Great f*cking job Apple. Been a fanboy and buyer since LC2. Maybe its time now to go with Winblows....

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
I was flipping out...

Come on! It was much more fun watching him have an aneurism.


But seriously, can anyone provide me with some benchmarks or some good lead about a 4670 vs a 9400? ...and is 4670 worth 200$? I wish they still had a 17" option. :(
 
Blu who?

Apple is right to avoid BR. The days of polycarbonate are numbered (just as the days of vinyl were in the early 90s). The future is screaming "STREAMING!".

P.S.

To Olivia Newton John: Lets get physical? I (virtually) think not!
 
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