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Apple Releases Updated MacBook Pros With Core i5 and i7 Processors

lilo777 said:
You still don't get it. The high price is the actual draw for many. When someone points out how outdated Apple laptops are, they can argue then that those are sore losers who can not afford Apple prices. :D
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I'm already looking for other laptops. But which ones? Best one I see would be the Dell XPS 16? Which of course is way cheaper than the MBP. It has a 1080p Full HD Display, 4GB Ram, 500GB, ATI Radeon 4670 1GB
 
Overpriced or what???

What a joke...
For what you get for the money you spend on these new updates is preposterous.. aside from the increased battery life, there really is nothing to rave about...

I just bought a Asus G73JH-A2 w/ Core i7-720QM, 8GB, 1TB 7200 RPM drive, DVD+/-RW, 17.3in Full HD, Radeon HD 5870, Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit for just under $1700 Canadian which included a back pack and gaming mouse ... I sold my October 09 Macbook, sick of the slower than windows 7 OS and the heat too ...

My ASUS has a better graphics chip, does not heat up like the Macbook ( I swear I had a waffle iron sitting on my lap at times), it has the heating vents out of the back and Windows 7 does not have the habit of OS X which has the spinning beach ball occur more every-time a new Snow Leopard update comes out.. and the new stealth look of Asus looks great and is a durable rubberized finish...

My point is that Macbook Pros are way over priced and they need to change their ways as in offer more for the money people are spending if they want to truly got a larger market share for their laptops...
 
GodWhomIsMike said:
Lenovo IdeaPad Y560 w/ Core i7: $1299

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...-category-id=536DDAD2272C43B4B4EFE41A7A5D7192


Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Processor ( 1.60GHz 1333MHz 6MB )
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 1GB
4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz
500GB 7200 rpm hard drive

It was on sale last week for $999 with a coupon code.
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It's also got suspect build quality, the 15" screen is 1366x768 and very mediocre (you can see for yourself if you find one in a store near you).

There are a ton of laptops like this, with nice specs, but to get to those low price points, they cheap out elsewhere. It all depends on what is important to you. If you want a flimsy plastic machine with a terrible screen, and want to save $1000, it's definitely an option.
 
warki said:
I'm already looking for other laptops. But which ones? Best one I see would be the Dell XPS 16? Which of course is way cheaper than the MBP. It has a 1080p Full HD Display, 4GB Ram, 500GB, ATI Radeon 4670 1GB
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Well, the usual suspects are DELL Studio XPS, HP Envy and Sony VAIO (Z or F). Asus also has very interesting models
 
lilo777 said:
You still don't get it. The high price is the actual draw for many. When someone points out how outdated Apple laptops are, they can argue then that those are sore losers who can not afford Apple prices. :D
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you said it brother. this is one of a handful of stock phrases that macolytes employ as a dodge whenever someone points out that their religious icon of choice somehow comes up short. i switched to Apple in the late 90s because i needed to use software for research that was mac only. since then, i have been quite pleased, particularly by the renaissance that the company underwent when they switched to os x and then to intel. for much of the naughties, apple really were in lead, but then they got tempted by the dark side and began to focus attention away from computers and toward consumer electronic devices which offered two advantages over the desktops and laptops: (i) they were much cheaper to produce and thus could fatten fat profit margins even further, and (ii) they offered apple a completely closed system, with the ability not only to control the design and sale of the product, but EVERYTHING associated with the product. heck, they even get to approve what goes ON the product. i'll wager that if they thought they could get away with it, they'd jettison all open codecs, such as mp3, and disallow you from loading your own multimedia, but rather force you to download (and pay) for it repeatedly. who knows, maybe that's where all of this is going. but i know where it's NOT going, and that is a focus on their core desktop/laptop computer business.
 
Creatives ditch Apple?

i'm not normally one to chime in on such debates but here it is:

The new top-end 17" MacBook Pro cost £2,458.99 with the i7 dual-core CPU, 8 GB RAM and a 7200 RPM hard drive. A reasonable spec for a mobile photographer / video / audio editor like myself.

The Dell Precision 6500M costs £2,492.00 for a true quad-core i7 with Win 7 64 bit with 8 GB RAM and two 160 hard drives in a RAID 0 or RAID 1 configuration as well as a 1GB nVIDIA FX3800M graphics card. Okay it's uglier, the battery pack is large, the battery life is woeful and it weighs a kilo more - but it's intended to be a luggable desktop replacement with proper power for those that need it - us photo and video guys. Also included is a 3 year warranty! Get Adobe CS5 running on it and you've got a very compelling reason to leave Final Cut Studio for dust.

Even Apple's own 'pro' apps aren't optimised for hyper-threading or multiple CPUs - anyone who's rendered on the timeline in FCP or bounced out of Logic will know what I mean. Barely one core being utilised if you're lucky!

Adobe's Premiere runs 3 times faster for renders on my Mac Pro in Win 7 via Boot Camp than Premiere for OS X. That may change with CS5, but surely Apple is in danger of losing the market that made them way back when - the creative professionals?

I understand that the new 17" MacBook Pro strikes a balance between power consumption and performance - but surely there should be a fully-fledged desktop replacement build-to-order option?
 
So im completly happy about the update, which i should be because im only a college student whos majoring in nursing. Im not doing any graphic desgin nor am i using mine for work. So for me the specs are outstanding. 10 hr battery life? i dont think you can beat that. plus a faster processor, better graphics, standard 4gb of ram, bigger hard drive. i cant wait to go out and finally get one. But i do understand where people are getting pissed, especially the professionals, some of the specs would dissapoint me to.

and for the people who keep saying they shouldnt have waited.... wouldnt you still want the most recent updated machine...rather one that is a year old? thats just my opinion.

im completly happy and will stay happy about the update.

Thanks :)
 
Here are some benchmarks. You can use the link below to check the cpu u have versus the new ones released.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html


and something I send around before

GT 330M
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-330M.22437.0.html
9600 GT
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9600M-GT.9449.0.html

If you have a pre unibody MBP, this is a nice upgrade for you, if you have a current unibody you might want to think twice, and instead of selling the current MBP and buying the new one, invest in a SSD, this will give you a much bigger real world benefit (in most situations).
 
Bought the last gen

I decided to buy a used 17" unibody 2.66 a few weeks ago. I saved $800 over buying the new 17" and frankly for what what the new one has, im glad I got the used one. I find it good, in general, to buy a used apple of a generation that is tried and true rather than jumping on the new models. the reason, outside of cost, is often apple hardware has critical issues and more often than not apple doesn't do anything about it and you end up stuck with a debilitated machine with less resale value because the community knows of the problems.

I'll these new machines prove themselves and then when the next generation after that comes out, upgrade to a used machine, again. In my decades as a mac user, i find this is where i get the optimum value.
 
somewhere in the post

I know it must be somewhere here in this thread, but wow with 760# posts already I cannot find it,

but, once again, if one wants to have a MATTE option (NEEDS a matte option!) then it will cost $$$, not only because it appears to be at least 100$ and more like 150$ more, but also it won't be a MODEL, but rather a build to order model, meaning no option to purchase from AMAZON for example.

thanks apple, I thought only the airlines and banks were nickle and dimeing me to death
 
A lot of people seem to be focusing on the price of the entry-level MBPs (and justifiably so - $1500 for a C2D is obscene). I also agree that this latest revision is somewhat lacking in features, particularly Blu-Ray. However, little or no attention has been paid to a rather important fact: the new high-end models with i7 absolutely whallop the competition right now from a pricing standpoint. All PC laptops I've found with i7 are utilizing the 1.6 or 1.7GHz processors, and these are priced comparably to the i7 15" MPB. But the MBP uses a 2.66GHz chip, which would probably jack up a comparable PC by at least $400-500. The thing is, no other manufacturer is currently offering these processors.

Also, was anyone really expecting USB 3.0? Intel doesn't support that on its roadmap until at least the end of 2011 (sigh) and Apple is slavishly devoted to Intel chipsets (double sigh).
 
crucius said:
listen, my laptop is a 4 year old HP with 1Gb of RAM, 90Gb HDD and God knows what processor (AMD Turion 64 but don't even know the clock)

i wanted to upgrate to a MacBook Pro and since i can't afford the 15'' i was hoping for the 13'' to be a great machine...ok it didn't get an i5, but is that really a bad deal? i'm mean, i'm gonna love it right? you are all guys with a lot of Apple things, most of you already have a Macbook Pro not bought a long time ago...for YOU it's probably what it is a MINOR update, but for people like me it's great...my laptop lasts 45min, this 10h...and etc.

so please tell me will i be able to use the new CS5 well in a low-end 13''? will i be happy with it? i'm fed up with windows...
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Buy the best you can afford, the MBP 13" sounds like it will fit just fine. Try to save some money and later upgrade the memory to 8Gig.

The MBP when compared to a 4 year old HP will probably be a lot faster than you can imagine and you also get to use OSX instead of windows. By the way VMware and parallel will allow you to move your current PC environment to the Mac to deal with the PC software you already invested money into. As times goes by you will end up using windows less and less.
 
Aqua Structure said:
A lot of people seem to be focusing on the price of the entry-level MBPs (and justifiably so - $1500 for a C2D is obscene). I also agree that this latest revision is somewhat lacking in features, particularly Blu-Ray. However, little or no attention has been paid to a rather important fact: the new high-end models with i7 absolutely whallop the competition right now from a pricing standpoint. All PC laptops I've found with i7 are utilizing the 1.6 or 1.7GHz processors, and these are priced comparably to the i7 15" MPB. But the MBP uses a 2.66GHz chip, which would probably jack up a comparable PC by at least $400-500. The thing is, no other manufacturer is currently offering these processors.

Also, was anyone really expecting USB 3.0? Intel doesn't support that on its roadmap until at least the end of 2011 (sigh) and Apple is slavishly devoted to Intel chipsets (double sigh).
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The 1.6 and 1.7 GHz are quad-core models which will run between 2.8-3 GHz as soon as new power is needed.

There is quite a performance difference.
 
Bubba Satori said:
Wow, expensive junk, missing features and crap video cards.
I bet that's never happened before. What a surprise. :apple::rolleyes:
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he he he, whats wrong with a DX 10.1 Graphics card :) Especially as ATI and nvidia move to DX 11, future-proofing pfffft...
 
DLovett said:
The 1.6 and 1.7 GHz are quad-core models which will run between 2.8-3 GHz as soon as new power is needed.

There is quite a performance difference.
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Ah, I had assumed they were the dual-core models. I will concede that this is a pretty poor showing.
 
organerito said:
Thanks a lot!

So, at a least a 15' MBP? As I'll be moving to a Mac computer, which program do you use?
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I use Serato Scratch Live hooked up to Stanton vinyl decks and a Behringer Digital 4 channel mixer. Not top of the line but gets the job done. I also have the Ableton Launchpad, Korg Kaoss Pad, and the Korg Kaossilator.

I've been using a 7 year old macbook pro and let me tell you this update is huge for me. Serato software pre-scans each digital track to auto detect BPM and pre-build wave forms. On my old Mac this takes about 1-2 minutes per track, so when I have 30-50 new tracks to load it takes me forever.
With the new system these should build in less and 5 seconds per track (based on testing it out on my MacPro Quad Core tower).
I am getting the 15" i7 mainly because I also do Sound Design and want the extra horsepower to push Soundtrack Pro and Ableton. If you are just using it for DJing you could get away with the 15" i5, but for $200 more you get the i7.
 
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