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You don't like where you live? Move.

I hate this arrogant attitude. Moving from state to state is one thing, but moving countries has a whole bunch of other issues. I'm sure many people would like to move to the US, but they don't have the option of moving here because of legal and monetary issues. Besides, maybe the Brits that live in the UK don't want to deal with arrogant and ignorant Americans such as yourself.
 
So im completly happy about the update, which i should be because im only a college student whos majoring in nursing. Im not doing any graphic desgin nor am i using mine for work. So for me the specs are outstanding. 10 hr battery life? i dont think you can beat that. plus a faster processor, better graphics, standard 4gb of ram, bigger hard drive. i cant wait to go out and finally get one. But i do understand where people are getting pissed, especially the professionals, some of the specs would dissapoint me to.

and for the people who keep saying they shouldnt have waited.... wouldnt you still want the most recent updated machine...rather one that is a year old? thats just my opinion.

im completly happy and will stay happy about the update.

Thanks :)

Well, of course you can beat 10h battery life. This Sony VAIO X offers 14hours (and is much much lighter)
 
Do you people not look at the details at all? The NVidia GT320M is a custom part apparently for Apple, and significantly better than the stock Intel HD integrated graphics (which is what Apple would have to offer with the 13" model if they didn't want to also include a dedicated graphics offering).

The previous 13" MBP had NVidia 9400M graphics which were similarly better than the comparable Intel integrated graphics option.

Again, short of Apple offering a 13" model with dedicated graphics (I wouldn't object to it, but it's not something they do), this is not really a bad option.

One of the biggest worries people had was that Apple was going to offer a Core i3 and Intel HD integrated graphics in the 13" model (a common combination seen on other laptops).

there is no such thing as a custom graphics chip anymore. nvidia make graphics chips based on their latest core and the last generation core and disable features based on customers' requests. the only thing custom is the BIOS to control clock speed and the exact features licensed.

both nvidia and ATI get asked to sell chips with custom model numbers and features to all the OEM's. the biggest reason is to sell cheapo last generation parts with model numbers that make them seem like they are from this generation.
 
I hate it that now the MBPs not only have an 8 hour battery but also automatic graphics switching. My 1 and a half year "old" Unibody's battery only holds like an hour and a half and I have to logout/login each freaking time I unplug or plug it back to the power adapter (so like 6 times a day) to swap graphics or else the battery runs out even faster!

I think this is a great update but I'm sad that the "older" unibodies won't be getting automatic graphics switching, even if the hardware supports it!

OH and these new bastards also support up to 8GB of RAM! Who said Macs go obsolete within 3-5 years? It's one freaking year!

*Shrug* I've been using a MBP 15" 2.4 SR since 2007, still going strong.
 
Also not understanding this complaint. The GT 330M is best-in-class for performance to price ratio, and Optimus technology is going to make switching between Intel's ****** onboard chip and the NVIDIA chip a breeze.

best in class??? Is that the nvidia class? heard of ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 5650 dx 11 and better performance.

The GT 330m is midrange. And rebranded GT 230M
 
A lot of people seem to be focusing on the price of the entry-level MBPs (and justifiably so - $1500 for a C2D is obscene). I also agree that this latest revision is somewhat lacking in features, particularly Blu-Ray. However, little or no attention has been paid to a rather important fact: the new high-end models with i7 absolutely whallop the competition right now from a pricing standpoint. All PC laptops I've found with i7 are utilizing the 1.6 or 1.7GHz processors, and these are priced comparably to the i7 15" MPB. But the MBP uses a 2.66GHz chip, which would probably jack up a comparable PC by at least $400-500. The thing is, no other manufacturer is currently offering these processors.

Also, was anyone really expecting USB 3.0? Intel doesn't support that on its roadmap until at least the end of 2011 (sigh) and Apple is slavishly devoted to Intel chipsets (double sigh).

You must of looked over the fact that the 1.6/1.7 GHz PC laptops are QM models which are quads. The MBP 2.66GHz i7 is a DUAL core still. The QM's actually cost more. So that would raise the MBP price 100-200 so your way off.
 
Agreed! I am very glad to see that the 17" didn't get a price increase and that it still has an express card slot.

Enjoy the update while you can folks, it'll be another year before we see anything new in the MBP front. It'll be two iPad updates, an iPhone update and a Mac Pro update before then. There are only five people working on Mac OS 10.7 right now, so we may not even see an update for that any time soon.
Lucky it does have a express slot, it will be able to support USB3 before Apple adopts the tried and true technology in 2013.
 
lol. i'm still using my 13" 2Ghz Core 2 Duo macbook with the intel GMA 950 chip. don't plan on upgrading until the 13" get the new cpu's.
 
Did they actually decrease price on the high end one? I remember buying 3.06 MBP last June and paying around 2800$ now the priciest you can get is 2450$.
 
Nothing here to make me regret switching back to the dark side after 8 years of iBooks / MacBooks.

I've just ordered a Kobalt G870 (17.3" full HD 1920x1080, i7-720QM Quad core, 4GB 1333MHz DDR3, ATI Mobility Radeon 5870 1GB DDR5, 80GB Intel SSD + 500GB 7200rpm Hard Drive, express card 54, 7-in-1 card reader, HDMI, eSata, etc. etc., 2 years warranty as standard). Costs less than the base spec 17" MacBook Pro. Yes I know the battery life will totally suck but I run my MacBook plugged in 99.9% of the time anyway.

Yes I prefer OSX but Win 7 ain't bad. As for viruses, i've been using windows since version 3.1 (3.11, 95, 98, NT, XP, Vista) alongside OSX and never had one.
 
i'm not normally one to chime in on such debates but here it is:

The new top-end 17" MacBook Pro cost £2,458.99 with the i7 dual-core CPU, 8 GB RAM and a 7200 RPM hard drive. A reasonable spec for a mobile photographer / video / audio editor like myself.

The Dell Precision 6500M costs £2,492.00 for a true quad-core i7 with Win 7 64 bit with 8 GB RAM and two 160 hard drives in a RAID 0 or RAID 1 configuration as well as a 1GB nVIDIA FX3800M graphics card. Okay it's uglier, the battery pack is large, the battery life is woeful and it weighs a kilo more - but it's intended to be a luggable desktop replacement with proper power for those that need it - us photo and video guys. Also included is a 3 year warranty! Get Adobe CS5 running on it and you've got a very compelling reason to leave Final Cut Studio for dust.

Even Apple's own 'pro' apps aren't optimised for hyper-threading or multiple CPUs - anyone who's rendered on the timeline in FCP or bounced out of Logic will know what I mean. Barely one core being utilised if you're lucky!

Adobe's Premiere runs 3 times faster for renders on my Mac Pro in Win 7 via Boot Camp than Premiere for OS X. That may change with CS5, but surely Apple is in danger of losing the market that made them way back when - the creative professionals?

I understand that the new 17" MacBook Pro strikes a balance between power consumption and performance - but surely there should be a fully-fledged desktop replacement build-to-order option?

Maybe with these new machines out, Apple will update their pro apps for the hyper-threading and multiple CPU's. I mean why release software that everyone will complain will not run? Now they have the machines, and the software updates may be coming? Also what version of OS X are you running? is it the newest Snow Leopard for multi-core, etc or you still running Leopard?

Me I am still running leopard and my 2008 whitebook still runs like a charm. I ditched Premier elements. I used to run it on windows, but the version I have (3.0) did not run properly on Xp professional, and several Adobe techs told me it was Designed for Xp Media Center edition. I took a look at the newer versions and it was too much like iMovie and they even cut out the timeline (they said since iMovie is the most popular consumer editor freely availble on the mac, our premier elements will be exactly like the version in iLife '08 and we will no longer release a mac vesion of premeir elements).

I also talked to Adobe about Premier in the CS# versions (seeing if it would be worth shelling out over $1,000), they said they took out some of the optimizing and features; not because of Apple machine capability; but more because they did not want to support 2 versions long term and wanted to concentrate more on Windows users. They said eventually they wanted one code set to maintain, and since the world works on Windows - that was their target.

So see, Adobe admitted to me they were not interested in properly performing Apple products. Let's not blame Apple here (and I am not 100% of a fanboi, I still use some Windows apps); blame the 3rd party software makers for crippling apps.

It happens both ways, I seen software companies cripple apps on Windows for enhancing Apple or Linux based apps, and I seen software companies cripple other platforms for enhancing Windows based apps. it all depends on where their vision and the programming talent they have lie.
 
1080p is sooooooo overrated. I think the idea of it appeals to ppl more than the practicality.

I actually agree. I think you really wouldn't see any difference at all between the 1080P and the high res display it currently has. I was just refering to the "better" (for lack of a better word) technology we see in cheaper computers
 
Personally I'm excited about these updates. I've been saving for a Mac since OSX first came out but other things (like house/family etc!) came first. Now I have the money and the updates are (almost!) just what I want. I say almost because I would have preferred a better discrete graphics card. The spec is perfect for me and I can afford either a 15" or 17". So a big smile from me. :)
 
Damn these posts are updating faster than I can read....

Before i am done even reading one page worth of posts, 5 more pages show up!
 
I'm quite happy with these updates!

Just ordered the 2.66 i7 17" with 500GB/7200 HD...

I'd sell off my 2.4 Santa Rosa 15" MBP if I hadn't dropped it and put a minor dent in it a year ago. Guess I have 2 laptops now. :rolleyes:

I am leaning toward the same. This will be a big difference from what I have been using for 5 years (G4 15")! But are you planning on going with the 4 G memory or paying for the upgrade?
 
...someone ought to email this to Steve...

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...someone ought to email this to Steve...
 
yes i was

A lot of people seem to be focusing on the price of the entry-level MBPs (and justifiably so - $1500 for a C2D is obscene). I also agree that this latest revision is somewhat lacking in features, particularly Blu-Ray. However, little or no attention has been paid to a rather important fact: the new high-end models with i7 absolutely whallop the competition right now from a pricing standpoint. All PC laptops I've found with i7 are utilizing the 1.6 or 1.7GHz processors, and these are priced comparably to the i7 15" MPB. But the MBP uses a 2.66GHz chip, which would probably jack up a comparable PC by at least $400-500. The thing is, no other manufacturer is currently offering these processors.

Also, was anyone really expecting USB 3.0? Intel doesn't support that on its roadmap until at least the end of 2011 (sigh) and Apple is slavishly devoted to Intel chipsets (double sigh).


yes, i was expecting usb 3.0 when i lay down more than two grand for a computer, i won't be buying a new one fior probably four or five years. i don't want the thing to be obsolete before i even get it out of the box. as for intel support, that's a red herring. apple has no problem adding components that intel chip sets don't/support. ALL pro laptops now comne with nvidia graphivs. and as for usb, there are now 2 (possibly 3) competing chips, one of which could easily have been incorporated for a modest price (these things retail as add on cards for about 50$. apple could have purchased cheaper versions in volume for use in their designs) when you make claims that your computers are "revolutionary," "insanely great," and "simply the best," dammit, they should be. the sad fact is, once they were, but haven't been in a very long time.
 
I’m disappointed (though not surprised) that there’s no HDMI across the line, unless Apple has left undisclosed that they’re now outputting audio through the MDP.

Speculations for the lackluster (CPU wise) 13” MBP

Speculation 1: the smaller footprint of the 13” might have required a major redesigning of the internals and chassis and thereby upping the price. But I think it needs a redesign anyway. The two USB ports are too close together to make using them simultaneously difficult…like an iPod synch and a thumb drive.

Speculation 2: supply constraints.

Speculation 3: the lackluster change to the 13” MBP is calculated so as to steal less thunder from the iPad. Perhaps there will be a new MBP 13” along with the new MB in Sept-Oct…especially if numbers 1 and 2 were issues as well. I will wait until then. I want to get an iPhone first anyway.
 
WOW!

13" Macbook Pro BOUGHT!!!

4GB and i5 in a 13" model for 1199? SOLD.

Fantastic update and was more than I was hoping for.
It IS more that you hoped for and more than it actually is... you have the specs WRONG, friend... the 13-inch has the following configs:

13" MacBook Pro
- $1199: 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, NVIDIA GeForce 320M, 4 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive
- $1499: 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo, NVIDIA GeForce 320M, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB hard drive

CORE 2 DUO processors! If I were you, I would cancel immediately and rethink the 15-inch model.
 
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