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I just wanna know where all the, ‘No it’s your own fault' posters are.

I am right here. I joined today specifically to rebut you.

If you take your iPhone to an unauthorized service center and allow untrained personnel to work on your iPhone there is nobody else to blame here. There is absolutely no other logical argument to be made. Apple did not put a gun to heads and compel anyone to violate their warranties or use third-party parts. This is pure emotion run amok by people who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches, let alone run around unsupervised in society.

If you think you have a rational, logical argument why you should break your iPhone but have Apple indemnify you completely, I will entertain it. I doubt there is one, but it should be amusing to hear them.
 
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I guess Apple thought that they couldn't win a lawsuit especially when you brick the entire phone on purpose.
Also you create a situation of people not wanting to upgrade when trying to sale a unauthorized repaired device. Resale would take a hit.
 
I guess Apple thought that they couldn't win a lawsuit especially when you brick the entire phone on purpose.
Also you create a situation of people not wanting to upgrade when trying to sale a unauthorized repaired device. Resale would take a hit.
Or they're telling the truth.
 
Speaking of TouchID not working...

I have set up TouchID several times, and I can't get it to work, with the same finger, more than once or twice. Seriously.

I'll delete the finger, and set it up again, and it might work once, twice, and then *PFFT* Nothing...

Was there an issue with defective TouchID sensors in the 6+? It's becoming a waste of time trying to make it work. I thought it was the 'ID condom' on my OtterBox, so I pulled it off, and still *PFFT*
 
How does this update weaken security? Apple clearly stated it wasn't a security feature and it never should have been customer facing: "We apologize for any inconvenience, this was designed to be a factory test and was not intended to affect customers. "
I'm assuming it's still used at the factory for validation.

It BRICKS a phone at the factory, instead of just popping up and saying something is wrong? It just keeps sounding fishy.
 
Hahahaha so even Apple admits it made a mistake despite the many Apple apologists praising the company for doing it.

I don't see that. I see Apple, if you read between the lines, saying 'Get your iDevice fixed anywhere else but The Center Of The Known Universe, and we will kill TouchID, when they could probably just as easily come up with an app that could verify the TouchID component is legitimate, and 'introduce it' to iOS.
 
Or they're telling the truth.
Truth or not, it should have been the first thing they said. The original "security feature" statement from Apple PR seemed to be a knee jerk response that, in hindsight, exacerbated the situation. A simple "We're investigating the issue and will have a resolution shortly." would have been infinitely better. Couple of days later, this fix is issued. Helluva lot better than giving the appearance of just making up stuff.
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It BRICKS a phone at the factory, instead of just popping up and saying something is wrong? It just keeps sounding fishy.
Actually, if that's what it does (and we're still guessing here), then it's doing it's job. It's detecting a problem with the phone and not allowing it to go from the factory without being addressed.
 
I just wanna know where all the, ‘No it’s your own fault' posters are.
Apple have admitted that they were wrong. That means it’s Ok for you lot to as well you know……...

Many of us didn't think this was even possible with just a flick of a switch. I think some of us (me being one) also weren't aware the phone would completely brick. Kind of silly. At the same time, Apple continues to have a positive record of updating their processes pretty quickly when they're in the wrong. Not sure if the "told you so" attitude is very productive.
 
It BRICKS a phone at the factory, instead of just popping up and saying something is wrong? It just keeps sounding fishy.

It bricks the phone, technicians says, "oops, I did that wrong," goes back and redoes the thing.
 
I just wanna know where all the, ‘No it’s your own fault' posters are.
Apple have admitted that they were wrong. That means it’s Ok for you lot to as well you know……...

I am right here.
Yep, I was wrong, but I also assumed it was intended and (still) agreed that bricking a once-working post-fix phone out of no where was douchy. I don't think anyone here was justifying that.

However, to brick a phone because a component that has major recourse through the security facede was modified, potentially unsafely, is completely acceptable (in my opinion, I have to add for those who think its anything more). I've seen repeatedly though history that exploiting the hardware means no safe bets - it is incredibly dangerous and to say "Well TouchID is a one-way channel," is not enough to subvert any worry about someones hardware access to any device.
 
Note that if you were running 9.3b when this happened, you may still be sort of out of luck. I was on 9.3b and I needed to return to it because my backups are for that version. Once I had a working phone in 9.2.1, I tried updating OTA to 9.3...just wouldn't work. Stuck on the verifying. Tried downloading a 9.3 ipsw, and error 53.
 
So the check to make sure that the Touch ID hardware hasn't been tampered with was removed?

It looks like the FBI got the update they were asking for after all.
 
Your pro-nanny state pro-big government stance is utter treason. The Court Order required Apple to turn over the modified OS to the FBI. Your assertion is false. You seem to be an Android user, so you wouldn't know about security. The FBI wouldn't even bother asking Google to do this because an 8 year old kid could hack any android phone.

Not sure you Can judge mate , As you just swallowed what apple said defended them to the death on issue 53.... I doubt you understand what security is.

Your assertion that android = no security is comical at best ;)
 
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I am right here. I joined today specifically to rebut you.

If you take your iPhone to an unauthorized service center and allow untrained personnel to work on your iPhone there is nobody else to blame here. There is absolutely no other logical argument to be made. Apple did not put a gun to heads and compel anyone to violate their warranties or use third-party parts. This is pure emotion run amok by people who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches, let alone run around unsupervised in society.

If you think you have a rational, logical argument why you should break your iPhone but have Apple indemnify you completely, I will entertain it. I doubt there is one, but it should be amusing to hear them.
Honestly, it seems you wasted your time joining. You clearly don't have a good understanding of the issue and the circumstances surrounding it. Respectfully, you would do yourself a favor by researching what actually happened, Apple's original response to it, and their subsequent resolution. If you did that, you'd be more informed and would most likely render an opinion more closely related to the actual subject. Just a thought. Or you could keep doing what you're doing. Either way, welcome.:D
 
Our long (three week) national nightmare is finally over. The few dozen people reported to have bricked phones can finally use them again. Yay freedom!

At least we can now focus on less important matters like the future of the country.

You really don't know how many people were affected by this. But snark noted :)
 
Error reduced to a smack on the hand (disabling Touch ID) instead of a knock out punch (bricking the device) if you use unauthorized parts. This works for me.
 
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Speaking of TouchID not working...

I have set up TouchID several times, and I can't get it to work, with the same finger, more than once or twice. Seriously.

I'll delete the finger, and set it up again, and it might work once, twice, and then *PFFT* Nothing...

Was there an issue with defective TouchID sensors in the 6+? It's becoming a waste of time trying to make it work. I thought it was the 'ID condom' on my OtterBox, so I pulled it off, and still *PFFT*

I had my 6+ for 12 months, no one issue with the TouchID sensor. I have the 6s+ now and still no issues. (my only concern is I notice that the screen scratches easier on my 6s+ then my 6+... I have not treated my 6s+ any differently, but have a lot of scratches on it already, just after a few months of having it, didn't have 1/2 as these on my 6+..oh well I guess).
 
Wow. SO everyone proclaiming that this was a necessary safety implentation and that Apple shouldn't budge were utterly and completely wrong and this was either NOT working as intended or the public pressure put on Apple caused them to backpedal (I am guessing the former).


Note that Apple is disabling TouchID for these users. I suspect this was not something they thought of originally, but are doing in response to "public pressure." Given they are now bricking PART of the phone (the main security feature) rather than the entire phone, it is not inconsistent with what everyone was saying about it being a safety feature. Users can choose to use their phones with third-party parts, but they will not get the same security protection that enables ApplePay and other features. No one can hack your phone to create false charges via ApplePay, for example.
 
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I am right here. I joined today specifically to rebut you.

If you take your iPhone to an unauthorized service center and allow untrained personnel to work on your iPhone there is nobody else to blame here. There is absolutely no other logical argument to be made. Apple did not put a gun to heads and compel anyone to violate their warranties or use third-party parts. This is pure emotion run amok by people who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches, let alone run around unsupervised in society.

If you think you have a rational, logical argument why you should break your iPhone but have Apple indemnify you completely, I will entertain it. I doubt there is one, but it should be amusing to hear them.
Your post makes you look idiotic. If you joined after my statement you can’t be one of those original posters it was directed at can you? Duh.
 
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You really don't know how many people were affected by this. But snark noted :)
That's why I went with how many were reported in various articles. I can't imagine the total is very big (on Apple scale), but I don't know.

And thank you very much for acknowledging my snark. :D
 
I am right here.
Yep, I was wrong, but I also assumed it was intended and (still) agreed that bricking a once-working post-fix phone out of no where was douchy. I don't think anyone here was justifying that.

However, to brick a phone because a component that has major recourse through the security facede was modified, potentially unsafely, is completely acceptable (in my opinion, I have to add for those who think its anything more). I've seen repeatedly though history that exploiting the hardware means no safe bets - it is incredibly dangerous and to say "Well TouchID is a one-way channel," is not enough to subvert any worry about someones hardware access to any device.
Ok, so I’ll pipe down. Whether I agree with you or not I do see the reason and respect in your reply.
 
It BRICKS a phone at the factory, instead of just popping up and saying something is wrong? It just keeps sounding fishy.
Get your definition of "bricking" right. It's not a brick if it can be fixed by software.
 
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