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I haven't gotten the last few updates because my touch id wasn't working and the guy at the screen repair shop told me not to update it that it may brick my phone. I don't have a problem with the id not working. 7 or 8 months until I get a new phone anyway. I'll wait a few days and make sure the updates go smoothly before I update though.
 
Yeah. Apple's new webpage says "Customers who paid for an out-of-warranty replacement of their device based on this issue should contact AppleCare about a reimbursement".

But my point is that they shouldn't have been telling people they need a new iPhone at the same time they were working on a free update that would fix the problem.
It would have been even better if the issue wasn't there to begin with. It's likely that with the speed that all of this has moved at that not everyone knew all of the details about it all, and some of those details likely didn't even get figured out until after some investigations happened and then some decisions had to be made. So it's likely or at least possible that the actual issue and the fix have only been worked out fairly recently and not much other information about it all was available before that anyway.
 
You know that things are seriously f'd up and not going well, when a predator eats its own children, rather than tries to hunt its own prey.

Apple shouldn't have changed this.
I agree with you here. They really shouldn't have.. THAT would have been fun...
 
Apple got a software fix ? ok,, I was waiting for this ... time to brick my phone ....

So, Apple would rather leave people with TouchID being not secure than to get people back into the store,, despite angry customers ? um.ok

From a security standpoint, that just seems bad.... How do u know those users will go to the Apple store, no need to, their phone is working..

Apple will get calls "hey my Touch ID don't work" (puzzled user) ...where as Apple will know it will be from the repair they did and just choose not to visit a store because they pushed out a easy software "fix" to restore functionality of a otherwise bricked device.
 
Apple got a software fix ? ok,, I was waiting for this ... time to brick my phone ....

So, Apple would rather leave people with TouchID being not secure than to get people back into the store,, despite angry customers ? um.ok

From a security standpoint, that just seems bad.... How do u know those users will go to the Apple store, no need to, their phone is working..

Apple will get calls "hey my Touch ID don't work" (puzzled user) ...where as Apple will know it will be from the repair they did and just choose not to visit a store because they pushed out a easy software "fix" to restore functionality of a otherwise bricked device.

Give Up.

The touch ID is not insecure. Its disabled. Just like any owner can do at any time.

As I said on other threads, this was an unacceptable action taken by Apple....and they now agree.
 
Apple got a software fix ? ok,, I was waiting for this ... time to brick my phone ....

So, Apple would rather leave people with TouchID being not secure than to get people back into the store,, despite angry customers ? um.ok

From a security standpoint, that just seems bad.... How do u know those users will go to the Apple store, no need to, their phone is working..

Apple will get calls "hey my Touch ID don't work" (puzzled user) ...where as Apple will know it will be from the repair they did and just choose not to visit a store because they pushed out a easy software "fix" to restore functionality of a otherwise bricked device.

What security risk? You still need a passcode.
 
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"until Apple-authorized repairs are made to a device affected by the issue. "

and Apple will not touch that device again since it's been fixed elsewhere
 
Honestly, it seems you wasted your time joining. You clearly don't have a good understanding of the issue and the circumstances surrounding it.:D

Fact #1 : People, of their own free will, took their iPhones to unauthorized service centers, and engaged untrained personnel to install third-party, untested, unauthorized parts in their in-warranty and out-of-warranty iPhones.

Fact #2 : After installing system updates to their iPhones, people found out karma is a bitch by having their iPhones "bricked" (rendered non-operational by the use of unauthorized service centers, and engaging untrained personnel to install third-party, untested, unauthorized parts in their in-warranty and out-of-warranty iPhones) to protect and prevent their data from falling into unauthorized hands.

Fact #3 : Whiny, cry-bullies who didn't want to face the reality and total ramifications of the actions they took of their own free will started complaining to Apple about facts one and two.

Fact #4 : Emotional people who couldn't summon up a rational thought if their life depended on it took pity on the dumb masses, forcing the non-issue into the realm of the viral.

Fact #5 : Proving that not even Apple has a the resources to fight the power of stupid people in large groups, Apple rushes out an update to iOS 9.2.1, and starts paying to replace iPhones and third-party parts of the dumb masses, despite the fact of having absolutely no fault or liability in creating the situation in the first place.

Clearly - I have absolutely no grasp of the subject matter.
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I guess Apple thought that they couldn't win a lawsuit especially when you brick the entire phone on purpose.
Also you create a situation of people not wanting to upgrade when trying to sale a unauthorized repaired device. Resale would take a hit.

Actions, meet Consequences. Before you dive in there, Slugger, you should know Consequences can be a real bitch from time to time, know what I am saying here? Keep your head about you, and don't do anything I wouldn't do, Tiger !
 
Wow. SO everyone proclaiming that this was a necessary safety implentation and that Apple shouldn't budge were utterly and completely wrong and this was either NOT working as intended or the public pressure put on Apple caused them to backpedal (I am guessing the former).


Well they found a much less onerous way to achieve the same safety goal. Those error 53 users still won't be able to use touch ID...
 
Well they found a much less onerous way to achieve the same safety goal. Those error 53 users still won't be able to use touch ID...
This was safety implementation not working as intended, plain and simple. And people ate up Apple's PR.

There were plenty of people on these frums proclaiming Apple had "no other way" to keep safety entact than to disable the phone completely. "Doing otherwise would still leave a secirity risk". Feel free to skim through the thread. It's volatile and hilarious. Looks like there's a dude two posts up that is still blaming this on the end user somehow. Sheesh
 
Fact #1 : People, of their own free will, took their iPhones to unauthorized service centers, and engaged untrained personnel to install third-party, untested, unauthorized parts in their in-warranty and out-of-warranty iPhones.

Well Fact #1 is wrong since some people reported they went to authorized Apple repair centers. So there's that.
 
I haven't gotten the last few updates because my touch id wasn't working and the guy at the screen repair shop told me not to update it that it may brick my phone. I don't have a problem with the id not working. 7 or 8 months until I get a new phone anyway. I'll wait a few days and make sure the updates go smoothly before I update though.

I have an honest question here, born out of pure curiosity: Why do you choose to go to an unauthorized repair facility and use technicians that have never had even a single minute of Apple training, to work on your iPhone?
 
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Well Fact #1 is wrong since some people reported they went to authorized Apple repair centers. So there's that.
Or that they simply had a malufcuntioning home button that they never replaced and just lived with a broken button until their phone was rendered useless.
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I have an honest question here, born out of pure curiosity: Why do you choose to go to an unauthorized repair facility and use technicians that have never had even a single minute of Apple training, to work on your iPhone?
No idea about this particular user but there are folks in other countries that live nowhere near an Apple store (perhaps in a country without one) and can't go without their phone for 1-2 weeks by sending it out.

When I lived in Iowa we JUST got an Apple store halfway through my schooling. Before that the closest Apple store was I think a 4-5 hour drive.
 
Well Fact #1 is wrong since some people reported they went to authorized Apple repair centers. So there's that.

Assuming facts not in evidence. I can report I won the billion-dollar lottery, but until I can prove it my allegations are worthless. People can, and will, lie for dollar amounts far less than the repair of an iPhone.

Were any of those allegations to hold water, Apple would have already fixed or replaced the iPhones. They do it all day, every day. Anyone can prove this by spending an hour in any Apple store on the planet and just paying attention.
 
Assuming facts not in evidence. I can report I won the billion-dollar lottery, but until I can prove it my allegations are worthless. People can, and will, lie for dollar amounts far less than the repair of an iPhone.

Were any of those allegations to hold water, Apple would have already fixed or replaced the iPhones. They do it all day, every day. Anyone can prove this by spending an hour in any Apple store on the planet and just paying attention.

Then by your own assertion - since you have no facts to support your theories, you fail your own logic test. Have a lovely evening
 
I was under the impression that bricked was bricked.

That was the original use of the term "bricked". Your electric device was completely unrecoverable and forever more was only usable as a brick. Unfortunately people started to use the term for any problem they have resulting in a failure to fully start up, so now it can mean anything at all.
 
Still no fix for the 1970 though....

You actually have to roll back the time on the phone to Jan 1 1970 to experience that. That means you're either a fool or somebody who wants to play a practical joke. Haha. There are ways out of this. Let your battery run down and restart.
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That was the original use of the term "bricked". Your electric device was completely unrecoverable and forever more was only usable as a brick. Unfortunately people started to use the term for any problem they have resulting in a failure to fully start up, so now it can mean anything at all.

Either some journalists don't know what it means, or they just use it to sensationalize.
[doublepost=1455846763][/doublepost]It appears to roughly be what some people thought: that essentially what was being triggered was a security check, and it if didn't work, the phone couldn't be trusted. However, it triggered in some improper circumstances, it seems. And it triggered the -53 code, which was the test for a phone coming off the assembly line. That should definitely be in the "fix" tray, and the checker would know that, no exceptions. I presume if your phone fails now, it would tell you what was happening, and tell you what to do about it. However, I think if it really detects a change that might be malicious tampering, it should shut down and be totally unusable until it is properly fixed and checked for security.
 
I have an honest question here, born out of pure curiosity: Why do you choose to go to an unauthorized repair facility and use technicians that have never had even a single minute of Apple training, to work on your iPhone?


My phone was bent and the screen was coming off. I ran out of time and the warranty was up as I live 2.5hrs from an Apple Store. I attempted to just reglue the screen back. It worked for awhile but came off again. When I finally made it to an Apple Store to see about a new screen the rep told me they wouldn't repair it and said there were places in the mall that would. The Touch ID doesn't work probably because of my attempted repair. It worked for a while but eventually stopped working. Then when they fixed the bend and redid the screen they told me since it wasn't working it wasn't a good idea to update the software for fear of bricking.
 
I think most people thought that if Apple budged Touch ID would be restored. I think restoring functionality while disabling Touch ID and helping security is a middle ground everybody can deal with.

In the other thread we're talking about, the sentiment was that disabling touchID was the right thing to do. I don't think I saw many posts expecting full TouchID support.

I know I for one was extremely hostile about bricking in the previous threads, and I was saying this is what Apple should have done. I am very happy with this resolution, I don't see it as a compromise but the right thing that should have been done from the start.
 
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