Apple Releases visionOS 1.0.1 Ahead of Vision Pro Launch

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Well you could tear it off your head quickly if it fails. I’m just curious if people will try doing it and if law enforcement will consider these types of devices as the same as cellphones when being ticketed for distracted driving.

My best guess is that this WILL get the same classification as cellphones... meaning don't do it or get ticketed. While it conceptually offers the potential for an exceptional turn-by-turn mapping app, there are pads designed to block off all peripheral vision beyond a point. A driver needs to be able to turn that head to the left & right mirror and their further left peripheral and further right peripheral will get a peek over their immediate shoulders.

Unlike many so pessimistic on here, I lean positive on this product... but I doubt I would EVER wear it while driving and hope I would never see anyone else daring to do that too. Perhaps the actual views while wearing it is enhanced such that wearer has up to better vision "around there" than a mask-less driver, but I see no camera over at the temples, so I'm not sure HOW it could match or exceed unencumbered human eye peripheral.

That shared though, the good old motorcycle helmet can also block off some peripheral vision, which can set up a much more dangerous scenario for that kind of rider, that will typically be much more likely to be life threatening for them. So one might be able to make some kind of "fair" case that if motorcycle helmets are OK, why not Vpro.

I won't. Best guess is that this reduces vision while driving, endangering drivers, passengers and anyone in other vehicles too. Item #461 to put to some range of vision tests when these are actually "in the wild" so people can see what they can and cannot do.

Even in some scenario where one could argue how some kind of mapping help is justifying it, how would the police know wearer is not engaged in some intense game with slight transparency on to see through so they can (try to) drive and play at the same time. Think "texting & driving" is dangerous? Imagine the fool trying to be a Fruit Ninja while driving.

 

[Surf Monkey]

My question is will you be able to drive a car while wearing this? It seems like it wouldn’t really be the same as being distracted by holding a phone and looking down at it while driving. If it works ok while driving I think a lot more people will be interested in it. Will you have to cheat the settings somehow to be able to do this?

No way, no how. This would require state by state legislation that would likely fail since this system represents an obvious hazard if used behind the wheel of a car.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Well you could tear it off your head quickly if it fails. I’m just curious if people will try doing it and if law enforcement will consider these types of devices as the same as cellphones when being ticketed for distracted driving.

You should probably go to YouTube and research the limitations of human reaction time. Then consider how comfortable you’d be in a car with your family when some other driver blows through a red light because their headset lost power.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Oh, and PS:

Someone IS going to get behind the wheel of a car with one of these on. Be careful out there. It would be a shame if someone actually gets killed due to that kind of raw stupidity.

 

[UltimateSyn]

Vision Pro support is on by default for iOS/iPad apps, the developers of those apps went out of their way to turn it off. It's a deliberate decision to not support Vision Pro.

So… tell them to uncheck a box! 😂 Blaming Apple for developers blocking their pre-existing apps is wild.

 

[klasma]

I’m just curious if people will try doing it and if law enforcement will consider these types of devices as the same as cellphones when being ticketed for distracted driving.

Depending on your state, it will be illegal. In the California Vehicle Code, for example:

"No person shall operate a motor vehicle while wearing glasses having a temple width of one-half inch or more if any part of such temple extends below the horizontal center of the lens so as to interfere with lateral vision."

Anything goggle-like would presumably fall under that definition.

 

[Surf Monkey]

So… tell them to uncheck a box! 😂 Blaming Apple for developers blocking their pre-existing apps is wild.

I don’t think that’s what he’s doing.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Depending on your state, it will be illegal. In the California Vehicle Code, for example:

"No person shall operate a motor vehicle while wearing glasses having a temple width of one-half inch or more if any part of such temple extends below the horizontal center of the lens so as to interfere with lateral vision."

Anything goggle-like will presumably fall under that definition.

There is no state that will allow it. None. Cars are among the most highly regulated products on the market and with good reason. They kill people. The idea that ANY state, county or municipality would allow people to wear face computers while driving is unrealistic in the extreme. Doing so would represent a severe public hazard.

 

[japanime]

I wonder how long it leaves the user in the dark while it updates…. That long black pause before the Apple logo must feel much longer when it’s your whole world.

Maybe they'll use their old standby instead.

 

[klasma]

I wonder how long it leaves the user in the dark while it updates…. That long black pause before the Apple logo must feel much longer when it’s your whole world.

Maybe they'll do a meditation thing: "Now close your eyes and focus on your breath", and after the reboot "you may now open your eyes again".

 

[Timo_Existencia]

Vision Pro support is on by default for iOS/iPad apps, the developers of those apps went out of their way to turn it off. It's a deliberate decision to not support Vision Pro.

Or, more likely, it's a decision that they don't like how the current app runs on the Vision Pro and will develop a native app in the future.

 

[Rob1547]

Damn dude, if you have that big a tax refund, fix your withholding. You're giving Uncle Sam a free $3500+ loan over the course of a year!

LOL literally signed in to say this... so glad someone beat me to it... Listen to Zorinlynx!!

 

[FattiesGoneWild]

No YouTube, No Spotify, No Netflix……I planned on buying Vision Pro w my tax refund now having second thoughts, Tim Cook and his greedy $3,500 pricing is beginning to irritate me

Don’t blame him. Blame yourself for even entertaining a purchase like this. Mr. Cook is not holding a gun at you to make you buy it.

 

[Rob1547]

Haha yeah, it's not that big of a refund tho...
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No shade or judgement but this isn't the flex you think it is. Consider reviewing your withholdings.

 

[Le0M]

No YouTube, No Spotify, No Netflix……I planned on buying Vision Pro w my tax refund now having second thoughts, Tim Cook and his greedy $3,500 pricing is beginning to irritate me

Dude, just use safari....

 

[rukia]

That seems like a really bad idea. Don't do safety-critical things (like driving) while wearing a device that would leave you temporarily blind if it fails (like VR glasses with passthrough video).

Thankfully Apple already anticipated people competing for Darwin awards and added the appropriate countermeasures.

 

[Le0M]

My question is will you be able to drive a car while wearing this? It seems like it wouldn’t really be the same as being distracted by holding a phone and looking down at it while driving. If it works ok while driving I think a lot more people will be interested in it. Will you have to cheat the settings somehow to be able to do this?

That's gonna be very dangerous for one reason: it's not real see-through, but just virtual.
If for any reason it crashes/restart, you're completely blind in those few second.
Extremely dangerous. Don't do it!

 

[CarAnalogy]

Maybe they'll do a meditation thing: "Now close your eyes and focus on your breath", and after the reboot "you may now open your eyes again".

Now I’m picturing the opposite, like a horror movie. The last thing you hear is a spooky voice whisper “don’t look.”

 

[Le0M]

Can't developers with Xcode understand what's new with this visionOS release?

 

[TruthAboveAllElse]

There is no state that will allow it. None. Cars are among the most highly regulated products on the market and with good reason. They kill people. The idea that ANY state, county or municipality would allow people to wear face computers while driving is unrealistic in the extreme. Doing so would represent a severe public hazard.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. It may be technically legal in some places, since it is new and perhaps hasn't been explicitly codified into law yet.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I wouldn't be so sure of that. It may be technically legal in some places, since it is new and perhaps hasn't been explicitly codified into law yet.

“Technically legal” just means “no law in place until some idiot tries to drive with one on and kills someone.”

 

[TruthAboveAllElse]

“Technically legal” just means “no law in place until some idiot tries to drive with one on and kills someone.”

Well yeah, and possibly could be prosecuted under existing distracted driving laws. But my guess is it is ambiguous in at least some areas. Not a lawyer though.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

No YouTube, No Spotify, No Netflix……I planned on buying Vision Pro w my tax refund now having second thoughts, Tim Cook and his greedy $3,500 pricing is beginning to irritate me

How’s Apple to blame? These companies decided not to develop their app for VisionOS, it’s their fault.
Still, it’s very possible that their iPadOS versions will work.
Or just use the browser, create a shortcut, use a third-party app, ot try something else.
Netflix hasn’t released anything good lately. It’s been a year since I watched anything on it, if it wasn’t that I get it for free from T-Mobile I would have already cancelled it.

 

[smulji]

Or, more likely, it's a decision that they don't like how the current app runs on the Vision Pro and will develop a native app in the future.

I genuinely do hope developers go through the trouble of making a VP native app, but between now & then, there's no harm done in letting users run the iPad version of the app.

 

[Polinsky]

My question is will you be able to drive a car while wearing this? It seems like it wouldn’t really be the same as being distracted by holding a phone and looking down at it while driving. If it works ok while driving I think a lot more people will be interested in it. Will you have to cheat the settings somehow to be able to do this?

The fact that you would even think about this scares the crap out of me. I hope you don't drive anywhere in Calif. And you don't deserve a ticket for driving with this, but rather about 5 years in jail would be more appropriate. And if you kill someone while wearing it, well no punishment would be enough for this kind of murder. Into the ignore file you go.