Apple Releasing iOS 6 Beta Build 10A5316k and Safari 6 Developer Preview at WWDC?

[HangmanSwingset]

If the 3GS does have issues with the update, they could always un-underclock it. It's what, 833 MHz underclocked to 600MHz? They could lift that to 700 MHz or so, while including smarter methods of CPU/GPU usage, thus decreasing the amount of heat dispersed and rate of battery drain. The 3G wasn't able to keep up I think because they had not done that. The 3G had the same processor as the 2nd gen iPod touch, and it was underclocked to 412MHz, whereas the 2nd gen iPod touch was clocked at I think it was 537MHz? Some non-even number that made me go all obsessive-compulsive over it. That was the biggest killer on the iPhone 3G IMHO.

 

[charlituna]

They still sell the 3GS, of course it will get the latest OS.

there's no 'of course' here. When they release the 6th Gen phone they will likely stop selling the 3gs and as it has already had its 3 iOS updates they are still within their pattern if they don't support it with iOS 6. A detail they will likely have already revealed several different ways so there should be no PR issues.

 

[Cougarcat]

Increased build in iOS? I'm not sure how the two correlate though (do they use the same code base or is mobile Safari a fork?). Lord knows it needs to be updated.

It will at least get cloud tabs support, and most likely the new unified URL bar.

 

[CupOfJoeD]

It will at least get cloud tabs support, and most likely the new unified URL bar.

I concur.

 

[Hastings101]

No iOS6 on the original iPad, I think that's realistic if you consider how slow iOS 5.1 has gotten. (For whatever reason - it's not like iCloud should be more straining than MobileMe)

Yet Apple was selling original iPads right up to the release of the new iPad! Can you imagine buying a Mac and not being able to upgrade to the latest OS only three months later? That's one part of the smartphone market that I hope the "post PC era" will not copy

Ever since the iPhone 3G got that awful iOS 4 update I've felt that Apple purposely slows down devices with system updates to "encourage" users to upgrade to a new device. The original iPad should be able to run iOS 5 just as well as the 3GS can (which is pretty decent) and should run iOS 6 just fine.

I'm fine with Apple dropping support for older devices without much warning (a lot of companies do it in the mobile market) but giving out updates that hinder devices and then dropping them is just mean.

 

[Millah]

3GS will still be supported because apple still sells it. Can't say the same about the first iPad.

That's horrible logic. Apple should only support software updates for products still currently sold? Well I guess that means iPad 2 owners are out of luck next year.

A 2 year life cycle for software updates isn't exactly a good thing. Apple used to stop supporting a product once the hardware became too dated. Not based on whether or not they still sold in stores.

This probably isn't the full legit list, and I'd be surprised if the 1st iPad isn't supported. There's no reason for it not to be.

 

[theonekcrow]

I think the iPhone 4 will be supported until the 5S or whatever they call it.

And it will be. I just see the 3GS only getting about 25-50% of the features. As for the maps example, we just have to see how Apple will impose the limitations on the 3D mapping cabablitites. (For example they found that the 3D mapping capablitites worked on an iPhone 4, however it didn't work as well as they wanted so they dropped it, will only be supported on 4S and above.)

 

[Liquinn]

Classic Apple. They only support the mobile devices for the release that was active when the device first launched and two additional versions. It reduces the variations they have to concern themselves with and encourages buying updated hardware since by that time even your Apple Care has run out.

True, I've applecare on my iPad 1 until later on in the year which is good. I'll probably update to the iPad 4 or whatever they call it next March.

 

[deannnnn]

Too bad about the iPad 1, but I totally understand why. That thing can't even run iOS 5. I rarely use my iPad anymore because it crashes when I try to do even simple tasks (load non-iPad-specific websites). I just use my MacBook because while it may be slow, it gets the job done successfully.

 

[MacReloaded]

That's horrible logic. Apple should only support software updates for products still currently sold? Well I guess that means iPad 2 owners are out of luck next year.

iPad 2 is still being sold, so two more years I guess.

 

[twoodcc]

what about the first iPad?

 

[ct2k7]

what about the first iPad?

Will not be supported if this information is correct.

 

[TechnikLayman]

Can someone explain the difference between consumer and enterprise? Is this an iOS 6 thing only or are there those two versions of iOS 5 as well?

 

[Stetrain]

The iPad 1 has already gotten two major updates. It started at 3.x and is now up to 5.x.

It also hasn't been sold as a new product for over a year now, unlike the iPhone 3GS which is still on sale.

The iPad 1 and 3GS are fairly similar processor wise (Same GPU I think), but the iPad 1 has a bigger screen to deal with.

 

[NOV]

Too bad about the iPad 1, but I totally understand why. That thing can't even run iOS 5. I rarely use my iPad anymore because it crashes when I try to do even simple tasks (load non-iPad-specific websites). I just use my MacBook because while it may be slow, it gets the job done successfully.

Just to be sure, I checked my iPad 1 for the software version, because I could not in any way relate to your statements about the slow and prone to crash iPad 1. I never had any of such experiences (have iOS5.1.1 installed) and been using it quite intensively. Last week I bought the iPad 3 and did some comparisons with iPad 1. I was actually quite surprised how fast the iPad 1 was.

 

[Peace]

Can someone explain the difference between consumer and enterprise? Is this an iOS 6 thing only or are there those two versions of iOS 5 as well?

I have never seen an enterprise version of IOS listed on the ADC portal which tells me IOS 6 will have user accounts.

 

[Liquinn]

So the iPad 4 (2013) should be able to run iOs 7/8?

 

[WeegieMac]

I don't quite understand why the iPad 1 will not be supported. It is just as powerful as the iPhone 4.

Wrong. iPhone 4 has twice the RAM.

I'd aim your anger at the 3GS getting iOS 6 and the first iPad not, rather than iPhone 4.

 

[ct2k7]

I have never seen an enterprise version of IOS listed on the ADC portal which tells me IOS 6 will have user accounts.

Or it could just have "enterprise" features, but multiple accounts does seem like a possibility.

 

[Stetrain]

So the iPad 4 (2013) should be able to run iOs 7/8?

Sounds about right.

 

[Cod3rror]

there's no 'of course' here. When they release the 6th Gen phone they will likely stop selling the 3gs and as it has already had its 3 iOS updates they are still within their pattern if they don't support it with iOS 6. A detail they will likely have already revealed several different ways so there should be no PR issues.

What if somebody buys a 3GS a week before iPhone 6 goes on sale?

Supporting 3GS with iOS 6 would be the right thing to do and if anybody knows how to treat their customers right, it's Apple.

 

[Cougarcat]

I have never seen an enterprise version of IOS listed on the ADC portal which tells me IOS 6 will have user accounts.

Why would that be limited to the Enterprise though? iPads are often shared amongst families.

 

[Peace]

Why would that be limited to the Enterprise though? iPads are often shared amongst families.

That would just be the way Apple lists it in their directory structure.

The enterprise would definitely benefit from user accounts. Thus the listing.

 

[AriX]

That's horrible logic. Apple should only support software updates for products still currently sold? Well I guess that means iPad 2 owners are out of luck next year.

A 2 year life cycle for software updates isn't exactly a good thing. Apple used to stop supporting a product once the hardware became too dated. Not based on whether or not they still sold in stores.

This probably isn't the full legit list, and I'd be surprised if the 1st iPad isn't supported. There's no reason for it not to be.

Millah, you're misunderstanding. It's not that Apple should only support currently sold products, it's that the iPhone 3GS is still being sold, and therefore Apple should continue supporting at least one additional year after it is discontinued. I do agree that it is unfortunate the iPad 1G is not supported, but I do believe that this is the full, legitimate list of iOS 6 betas.

there's no 'of course' here. When they release the 6th Gen phone they will likely stop selling the 3gs and as it has already had its 3 iOS updates they are still within their pattern if they don't support it with iOS 6. A detail they will likely have already revealed several different ways so there should be no PR issues.

Apple has never discontinued an iOS device and simultaneously stopped supporting it with OS updates. Apple will definitely support the 3GS in iOS 6.

I have never seen an enterprise version of IOS listed on the ADC portal which tells me IOS 6 will have user accounts.

Doubtful. Note that the enterprise version is a ZIP, where the other versions are DMGs - the enterprise version is designed for testing in Windows environments. It is possible that there could be some other differences (perhaps enterprise versions will not push the user to create an iCloud account?), but this is not an indication of a multi-user iOS.

 

[crisss1205]

Can someone explain the difference between consumer and enterprise? Is this an iOS 6 thing only or are there those two versions of iOS 5 as well?

The "Consumer" version is a DMG file which has always been the go to packaging of full iOS Software Images. I am thinking the Enterprise version (which is a ZIP file) will be for Enterprise (OTA) Distribution? Because OTA updates are ZIP files.