Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Apple Releasing iOS 6 Beta Build 10A5316k and Safari 6 Developer Preview at WWDC?

I

Can't wait to see iOS 6. As far as 3GS kill the poor device it's seen enough, one thing is running its OS another is running apps. If not Apple, developers will kill it that's for sure. In my collection of old Macs I have this old MBP late 2006 C2D 2.16 running Lion poor thing is running slowly but surely. It's just my opinion.
 
I don't quite understand what the 3GS has got to deserve iOS 6 support if the iPad 1st Gen has been axed.

They have the same RAM, but the iPad has a superior CPU.

Tomorrow will be interesting, but I'm happy to see iPhone 4 supported as it will tide me over until next year when I pick up the new iPhone.

This news means either a) iOS 6 is bringing very little to the table in that the 3GS can run it, or b) it'll be supported like the 3G was with iOS 4 with features stripped from it that other models receive.

Hopefully the later.
 
The iPhone 3GS has some components that are slower than the iPhone 4, such as the CPU, but it is only pushing one quarter of the number of pixels, so the performance is generally the same. Therefore I am not surprised the 3GS is supported.

The iPad 1 has even more pixels than the iPhone 4, but has less RAM. I kept my iPad 1 on iOS 4 as a test device for compatibility with that OS. I'm glad I did as reports suggest it struggles on iOS 5. I won't be surprised if it is not supported by iOS 6.

THe 3rd Gen iPod touch is very similar to the iPhone 3GS, so my one surprise with this story is that one is supported, but not the other.
 
Moonjumper said:
The iPhone 3GS has some components that are slower than the iPhone 4, such as the CPU, but it is only pushing one quarter of the number of pixels, so the performance is generally the same. Therefore I am not surprised the 3GS is supported.

The iPad 1 has even more pixels than the iPhone 4, but has less RAM. I kept my iPad 1 on iOS 4 as a test device for compatibility with that OS. I'm glad I did as reports suggest it struggles on iOS 5. I won't be surprised if it is not supported by iOS 6.

THe 3rd Gen iPod touch is very similar to the iPhone 3GS, so my one surprise with this story is that one is supported, but not the other.
Click to expand...

And half the bloody RAM!!!

I'm more surprised at the 3GS being supported when the iPad 1st gen is not.

I really though all the "A" CPU devices were a cert, it's strange when you consider the 3GS and iPad 1 have identical RAM but the iPad carries a better CPU. The iPhone 4 with 512mb of RAM and an 800MHz A4 is a no brainer.
 
iOS 6 for Apple TV

iOS 6 updates for iPhone and iPad are expected.

But if the list is accurate, and iOS 6 is coming to the Apple TV, then what can we expect?

An SDK and Apps, or just some iCloud updates?
 
biohead said:
Interesting to see the 3GS still there! Of course no guarantee it'll still get a final release but good to see its at least made it this far!
Click to expand...

bristleworm said:
Can anybody tell me what's the difference between consumer and enterprise in this case?
And also, if this is legit: cool that the 3GS is still supported!
Click to expand...

Perhaps the enterprise version enables more remote control/wiping capabilities without using iCloud? Note that Apple already has some enterprise tools available for existing iOS devices.

labaom said:
I don't quite understand why the iPad 1 will not be supported. It is just as powerful as the iPhone 4.
Click to expand...

Commercial reasons. Apple still sells the iPhone 3GS, and I'm guessing still will, at least in some markets, this coming year, even after the new iPhone is released.
 
WeegieMac said:
This news means either a) iOS 6 is bringing very little to the table in that the 3GS can run it, or b) it'll be supported like the 3G was with iOS 4 with features stripped from it that other models receive.

Hopefully the later.
Click to expand...

I'm guessing the latter. Otherwise, it would be a no-brainer to support the other older devices like the original iPad. They will support the 3GS so that they can still sell it as a low-cost device, but won't bring over features that it can't handle.
 
AriX said:
Doubtful. Note that the enterprise version is a ZIP, where the other versions are DMGs - the enterprise version is designed for testing in Windows environments. It is possible that there could be some other differences (perhaps enterprise versions will not push the user to create an iCloud account?), but this is not an indication of a multi-user iOS.
Click to expand...

I agree with this based on the fact that there were stories a little while back about companies that did not want their employees using iCloud. This was due to the fact that they were afraid Apple was storing their proprietary information in their iCloud servers, and it was being publicly transmitted without as much security as they would like.

Having an enterprise version that stripped iCloud would be a way to resolve that issue.

Update: It was IBM and they wanted Siri not to be used as well, so I would assume an enterprise version would block that too, on devices that support it.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/23/ibm-blocks-siri-and-icloud-on-staff-iphones-due-to-extraordinarily-conservative-security-measures/
 
Last edited:
I don't get why people are stressing that if the 3GS can support iOS6, then iOS6 must be a small update.

Why? First of all, just because it's getting iOS6 doesn't mean it will get all the same/new features as newer models. For all we know, iOS6 might just add a few fixes, a few new UI elements, a few new ringtones and background images to the 3GS and that's it.
 
MacRumors said:
[url=http://cdn.macrumors.com/im/macrumorsthreadlogodarkd.png]Image[/url]


Image

A post [Google translation] from the staff of Chinese forum WeiPhone.com claims to share a host of official Apple download links for tomorrow's software releases. While the links are not currently active, they include iOS 6 beta build 10A5316k for a variety of devices, as well as a developer preview of Safari 6 for OS X Lion.

The accuracy of the claim can not be confirmed given that the links are not yet pointing to the files, but clicking on the links does take users to an error page stating "Your session has expired." Altering the URLs to reference a different build number or making other changes yields an "Access denied" error message, suggesting that there is indeed something unique about the leaked URLs.

Image


A similar list of links addressing last year's downloads also leaked out just as Apple's WWDC 2011 keynote was getting underway.

Assuming that the list is accurate and complete as far as iOS 6 beta is concerned, it appears that Apple will not be including support for the original iPad in its next-generation operating system. In addition, Apple appears to be dropping support for the third-generation iPod touch.

The full list of links includes:

Third-generation iPad
- Consumer: Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi + Cellular (GSM), WiFi + Cellular (CDMA)
- Enterprise: Wi-Fi, WiFi + Cellular (GSM), WiFi + Cellular (CDMA)

iPad 2
- Consumer: Wi-Fi, WiFi + 3G (GSM), WiFi + 3G (CDMA), Revised Wi-Fi
- Enterprise: Wi-Fi, WiFi + 3G (GSM), WiFi + 3G (CDMA), Revised Wi-Fi

iPhone
- Consumer: 4S, 4 (GSM), 4 (CDMA), 3GS
- Enterprise: 4S, 4 (GSM), 4 (CDMA), 3GS

iPod touch
- Consumer: 4th Generation
- Enterprise: 4th Generation

Apple TV
- Consumer: 2nd Generation, 3rd Generation

Other iOS
- iOS 6 Beta Guide (PDF)
- Installing Apple TV Software (PDF)

Safari 6
- Consumer: - Safari 6 Developer Preview for Lion, Uninstaller

It is unclear whether the leaked list is intended to cover all of Apple's software releases for tomorrow, but we would also expect a new build of OS X Mountain Lion to appear as Apple moves closer to a public release.

(Thanks to @xystudioo on sina weibo!)

Article Link: Apple Releasing iOS 6 Beta Build 10A5316k and Safari 6 Developer Preview at WWDC?
Click to expand...

I seem to recall that the A4 in the original iPad is faster than the A4 in both the 4th gen iPod touch and the iPhone 4. Also that it is way faster than the CPU in the iPhone 3GS. Similarly, I seem to recall that the third gen iPod touch has faster innards than the iPhone 3GS, leading me to wonder exactly how and why support is being dropped for the first gen iPad and the third gen iPod touch and not the iPhone 3GS, the iPhone 4, and both the 3rd and 4th gen iPod touches. Though to be fair, iOS 5 is not as smooth on A4 devices as iOS 4 was or as iOS 5 is on A5 devices.
 
Vitruviux said:
Not going to be complaining if 3GS is dropped with iOS 7.

They used to have 2 phones on sale at the same time, now they have 3, next year 3GS will get replaced by iPhone 4 as the cheapest iPhone. So when iOS 7 comes out 3GS will not be on sale for a long time.

If 3GS gets iOS 6, that's 3 major updates(iOS 4, 5, 6) and that would be an industry gold standard, absolutely unmatched by other manufacturers/software companies.

But if they want to give 3GS users iOS 7, by all means Apple, go ahead...
Click to expand...
I believe that the 3GS will be discontinued one year before iOS 7 is released. However, some buyers may not consider one year a "long time" for the product they purchased to be supported.

What I was trying to say, thought, is that Apple really has to offer at least one year of support for products currently being sold, so that's why I believe the 3GS will get iOS 6. Even then, some people will be unhappy, just as they were when iPhone 3G support was dropped.
 
If Apple releases the update for the 4th gen iPod, but not for the iPad 1, it will be a clear and indisputable example of how Apple screws their customers. The iPod 4th gen has slightly lower specs than the iPad 1, meaning if they don't release the software on the iPad 1, it it simply because they don't want to.

Yebubbleman said:
Though to be fair, iOS 5 is not as smooth on A4 devices as iOS 4 was or as iOS 5 is on A5 devices.
Click to expand...
iOS 5 is an absolute disaster on A4 devices. Even if iOS 6 is available for my iPad 1, I certainly will not be updating myself. I do feel people should be allowed to update if they want though, and make their own decisions.
 
Although a thought had just occurred to me. In terms of what iOS needs to do in running, is there not some difference between iOS on iPad versus iOS on iPod touch/iPhone? I mean, that still wouldn't explain the 3rd gen iPod touch (being superior in computing power to the iPhone 3GS) not having support when the iPhone 3GS does. But might comparing iOS 6 not running on a first gen iPad to it running on both a 4th gen iPod touch and an iPhone 4 be like comparing Apples to Oranges?


To be fair, iOS 5 on my first gen iPad has been glitchy and substantially slower. I have noticed nothing of that sort on my fourth gen iPod touch, though I don't notice the speed typically associated with say running the version of iOS that said iOS device shipped with.
 
According to this video, whats included in iOS 6 Beta:

  • No more Google Maps
  • Minor UI changes to Maps App
  • Dictionary App
  • Combination of App Store and iTunes Store into iStore
  • "Multitasking" in portrait mode
 
I'd expect the 3GS to be dropped seem sale in September/October around the same time as the new iPhone launched and software support dropped before iOS7 ships.

So only existing users will be looking to update the software to iOS6. Then it's perfectly reasonable for anyone buying the 3GS now to not really get any software upgrade beyond 12 months. After all, its not that long ago that no phone came with software upgrades, not even bug fixes!
 
Yebubbleman said:
But might comparing iOS 6 not running on a first gen iPad to it running on both a 4th gen iPod touch and an iPhone 4 be like comparing Apples to Oranges?
Click to expand...

Indeed, in fact the 4th gen iPod touch is slightly slower than the iPad 1.
See this for more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices
If Apple screws their customers over yet again, and does exclude the iPad 1 from iOS 6, it will likely be because they simply want to get people to buy a new iPad.
 
nickn said:
If Apple releases the update for the 4th gen iPod, but not for the iPad 1, it will be a clear and indisputable example of how Apple screws their customers. The iPod 4th gen has slightly lower specs than the iPad 1, meaning if they don't release the software on the iPad 1, it it simply because they don't want to.


iOS 5 is an absolute disaster on A4 devices. Even if iOS 6 is available for my iPad 1, I certainly will not be updating myself. I do feel people should be allowed to update if they want though, and make their own decisions.
Click to expand...

Eh? The app opening animations returned to their smooth selves in iOS 5 on my iPhone 4 after the disaster of iOS 4.2 and above turned it into an inconsistent slide show and resulted in a widely reported plist fix being posted on these very forums.

"Disaster"? Don't talk rubbish.
 
GoGa said:
So it looks like the 3GS will be getting iOS 6! Wasn't expecting that.
Click to expand...

Man, the iPhone 3GS just won't die will it? Amazing how long it's lived compared to its predecessor who couldn't even survive the latter parts of its second iOS upgrade! (iOS 4)
 
nickn said:
Indeed, in fact the 4th gen iPod touch is slightly slower than the iPad 1.
See this for more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices
If Apple screws their customers over yet again, and does exclude the iPad 1 from iOS 6, it will likely be because they simply want to get people to buy a new iPad.
Click to expand...

That's not necessarily true. The iPad 1 requires more graphics horsepower than the iPod touch does simply because of real estate.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back