What amazes me is the consumer uproar against this change when people have so readily adoped smart assistants.
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Apple Remains Committed to Launching New Child Safety Features Later This Year
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What makes you think the same people upset about it also have non-Apple smart assistants?
(I don't - I only use Siri's dumb half abilities)
You are intentionally being dishonest here. Their is a difference Facebook/Google scan files on their server that you sent to it and Apple does this kind of scanning on the device itself. Apple claims that turning off iCloud Photos disables this but you have no way to verify that. In addition it is a policy who is to say Apple can not change that policy down the road and your local and cloud photos are being scanned.
It's computing a function from your picture, which some people may see as scanning. I'll go ahead and give that to you and others. The issue it seems you have is that you don't want Apple having any say whatsoever on what you store on iCloud Photos. Apple, on the other hand, has a moral and outspoken social responsibility to protect the privacy of everyone, and in this case especially those who have been subjected to known child abuse. You know, since the beginning of iPhone, all of your photos have been "scanned" in one way or another (for example, to apply Apple's own saturation/brightness effects). This is just a new "scan" taking place, in which a number is checked against child porn. If you're that worried about it, you shouldn't be using any modern technology, as it all "scans" in various ways.
I sensed the discursive fallacy as I posted it, meant for entertainment purposes only then.
Once it gets on THEIR PROPERTY, you know ON iCloud itself, scan away. But do NOT scan on MY PRIVATE DEVICE.
And you know 100% for sure that Apple will NOT scan on iPhone even with iCloud Photos disabled? You know criminals will just disable iCloud Photos and Apple will gain nothing from this feature. So it will not be enough, so Apple will change it to scan your pictures regardless of what your settings are. THAT is the concern here.
In a purely computational way, what does it change.
And for the sake of argument, does the fact that the given Algo "scanning" your pictures not provide you with more control as to it's possible modification rather than it done in the arcanes of the cloud is in your hands.
I do not understand this argument.
In that case, you shouldn't be taking photos, or doing anything else on your private device. Every file you create on your device is "scanned" in similar ways. Functions are computed on the data, and outputs are recorded. This is true of every single thing you do on your phone, no matter what brand is on it.
Simple example: remember when Jobs opened war on Flash? Webpages you visited on your private device were "scanned" for flash content, and your device responded in the way Apple programmed it to.
There's such a huge difference between all of that and scanning all your photos to compare them against third party databases "looking for things"
The distinction is crystal clear
And it will be too late when we have a future president who decides to force Apple to scan for images that may show someone was at a protest and may have held a sign that said unflattering things about said person.
You don’t know because you obviously didn’t read what he said. He was very clear
Who is scanning?
It’s a process like the process indexing your Spotlight searches.
Not “Mr. Apple”.
Apple is involved only IF AND WHEN the pics are uploaded to their servers.
QUICK, TURN OFF YOUR IPHONE! IT’S FULL OF PROCESSES AND DAEMONS PROGRAMMED BY APPLE!
Better call the exorcist for those daemons!
Man, the “my phone my property” truthers…
I don't agree. First, it's compared against internal database managed within iOS directly. Second, it's not scanning all your photos, it's scanning photos you are trying to upload to their servers.
I'm happy to see that you (and many others here) "get it".
This has to be thwarted before it even gets going --- or it's too late.
It becomes a security and privacy issue because Apple now has full access to my entire device and can scan for whatever they want without me knowing about it. That is why I prefer this type of software to stay in the cloud.
And you obviously don’t know how technology and governments work. There’s an icon about the came’s nose…
You ever use a web browser? How is child porn kept off the iPhone if one were to use a web browser?
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Apple Remains Committed to Launching New Child Safety Features Later This Year
Now, one last thing: Have you ever setup a Xiaomi phone? At least Apple and US Government has some elegance when collecting your data. Other Governments are directly human trafficking.
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Again, not wishing to be that guy, but with the explosion of digital cctv, this has been technically possible for 15 years.
The problem with the statement is that there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening. This is not a neural network trained to look for things in photos, it's a neural network trained to generate hashes. There are plenty of neural net architectures that do image analysis, but this is not one of them, and it could not be applied in the way stated here.
And once it gets on THEIR servers, then they can scan. They don't need to have it scan while on my phone. People need to look towards the future because it will be TOO LATE by the time something bad happens. This will NOT just be limited to CSAM and ONLY when you have iCloud Photos on. Think about things a year or two from now...Do that NOW because it will be too late when it actually DOES happen.
Apple Remains Committed to Launching New Child Safety Features Later This Year
Now, one last thing: Have you ever setup a Xiaomi phone? At least Apple and US Government has some elegance when collecting your data. Other Governments are directly human trafficking.
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