It's hilarious the way people make something up in their head, then present it as fact. 
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Apple Remains Committed to Launching New Child Safety Features Later This Year
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If that's the case, why don't they scan pictures on their servers instead of offloading that entire task to each individual's iPhones? I have no problem with them scanning their own servers - they own them and we have an understanding that we are merely renting their services. Put I have a huge problem with them using space and processing power on my iPhone that I never asked for or cannot disable. Why should the majority of us suffer the consequences because a very small handful of pedos out there?
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Agreed because certain websites are posting about this everyday in order to get clicks and it's getting pathetic.
Apple must care a lot about CP, because they have a whooping 200-300 reports about it per year, while Facebook is in the 20 million range.
And why didn't they do something about it until now? They had the technology for it for years and did nothing. They could and still can do cloud based scans. But nothing.
Except the child pornographers can just turn off iCloud Photo Library and won't have any issues, while the rest of us innocent users are constantly surveilled.
I would also love to see Apple cite actual data about child exploitation instead of just issuing broad proclamations about how this is such a huge problem.
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Great points..
Also - why the hyper narrow focus on this one type of crime?
Why not scan for domestic abuse?
or people taking pics of drinking and driving?
The list could go on for days...
Not acceptable Apple.
Get out of this business before you even start.
This is turning you into an arm of law enforcement.
Because it is illegal for Apple to have child abuse or any such content on their servers. By having the scan happen just prior to an upload, it protects Apple from being complicit. It should stop the image upload or the image from being sent to a recipient. Apple’s method right now is that the image will become blurred and a parent will be notified. It is better if the image simply doesn’t transmit.
You are not suffering any consequences if you’re not a nonce. It simply doesn’t affect you.
I knew Apple would keep plodding forward. Apple is not the kind of company to make the child safety announcement they did, and then back track.
It only applies to iCloud photos? I thought the phone scans your device photos too?
Sadly this was bound to happen as nearly every parent is giving kids iPhones they have no idea how to monitor or filter. Lots of parents have no idea how to properly parent today so I wouldn’t expect them to know how to set up parental controls either. What’s even more scary is all the lower income folks who are giving their kids android phones that are many years out of date.
TBH when we discussed what would send Apple the way of Nokia, none of us had treating ALL their customers like nonces who just haven’t been caught yet as the start of the downfall.
That's not how governments work.
There are three choices:
- The device scans the image and should prevent it being transmitted. The user has control and Apple doesn’t have illegal content on their servers.
- The cloud scans the image and that means no user control. That means Apple gets the illegal content and the user is surveilled.
- No protections at all for children.
This makes zero logical sense.
- the data available for device ai to scan is the exact same as icloud so even if CCP does ask . it is exactly the same as asking give us users icloud data
once you realize this fact you ask the question, if its the same as icloud data, then what is the slippery slope exactly if no NEW data is available to scan
Put my photos on my server, set up to upload any I take with my iPhone or iPad.
Got nothing to hide but for the first time in my life with Apple I think this may lead to
something out of control on Apples part or some other government or company.
Got nothing to hide but for the first time in my life with Apple I think this may lead to
something out of control on Apples part or some other government or company.
Well, this debate would make a good Star Trek the Next Generation episode. Reminds me of Drumhead from season 4.
People can vote where it counts.
Don't install iOS 15 and don't install MacOS Monterey and DONT buy a new device that has those surveillance OSes pre-installed. Yes that's you iPhone 13.
Don't install iOS 15 and don't install MacOS Monterey and DONT buy a new device that has those surveillance OSes pre-installed. Yes that's you iPhone 13.
I'm afraid I have to agree with those here that think this is about something altogether different. Unless I am sorely mistaken, this only applies to images uploaded/synced to iCloud...correct? In which case, by stating that publicly, the nonces that they claim to be trying to go after have just been given clear warning about how to avoid being detected...while those for whom noncery is not a past-time they partake in will continue uploading their images to iCloud where, with a little bit of pressure from the right people, Apple will be able to compare those images to hashes for any number of things including - as others have stated - "political" targets and issues (those who wrong think about party politics, gender issues, race issues, you name it).
Even with the most charitable interpretation, the fact that this timing coincides with the seemingly inevitable arrival of "health passport" apps should concern us all. Or should we believe that these massive intrusions worldwide against physical and digital privacy and freedom that are happening concurrently are just "mere coincidence"???
Even with the most charitable interpretation, the fact that this timing coincides with the seemingly inevitable arrival of "health passport" apps should concern us all. Or should we believe that these massive intrusions worldwide against physical and digital privacy and freedom that are happening concurrently are just "mere coincidence"???
Exactly this….either way just about every kid over 7 now has a porn browsing device in their pocket with parents who have either little knowledge or desire to attempt to restrict the device.
That's bad, there are lottery winners each week, considering all winners and not only the jackpot alone that would go into millions of errors each year. Some countries on the globe have multiple lotteries every week.
I'm personally not defending either side but I will say a member has a right to defend Apple if they want and others here don't have a right or just cause to question them. It's a discussion forum not us against the evil giant called Apple. 🙄
Screw this crap. This is Anti what I thought Apple stood for. This in itself seems like a good idea, for a good cause, but this opens the door to major major abuse especially if they ever fold to Government demands.
We get it you don't have a technical background, leave alone a PhD, but you have to understand this couldn't be simpler. User to Apple connection is secured, no one else involved or can see data. Upload data to Apple (can go to a temporary buffer), then scan it there. If the result is ok, Apple can proceed as normal and put the file on a users iCloud account. If they have a hit, not put it on a users iCloud account, instead delete or store the content as evidence and submit a report.
This isn't rocket science. One of my former colleagues, a security and network expert, is regularly consulting on CP cases and he's often tasked with securing forensic evidence.