They have a larger audience than most shows on MSNBC and CNN so they will be fine. Just more hypocrisy though.
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Apple Removes Five of Six Infowars Podcast Series From iTunes Directory
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That is not the mainstream media narrative, holy hell. This is how you continue to be duped by idiots like this, you're caught in a freaking mind lock where if you don't believe the alternative you must be a sheep...but in reality, you're being a sheep towing the line you're told! How are you missing this point? It's like the alternative music fans in the 90's who hated "mainstream music" because it was for mindless sheep...when in reality, they were being told to hate the mainstream music and doing as they were told (even though alternative was now mainstream).
That sounds evil. No thanks.
There's a difference between allowing government entities to access private information wholesale and being in business with Alex Jones.
Feel free to continue to listen to Jones on other platforms. The fact that you have the option to do so suggests that arguments that this is censorship are pretty stupid.
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Shining the light on it is not the same as giving it a platform.
Why, do you say that? It would be the closest thing to a real democracy the world has ever seen.
Yes. That wasn’t the point. The issue is taking a big principled stance on one thing and folding like a cheap suit on another. Privacy is a principle. So is free speech.
The fact that content continues to be available on platform B doesn’t suddenly redefine to something else platform A’s act of censoring said content. It’s still censorship. You can agree with it and support it, as you plainly do, but quit pretending it’s something other than what it is.
EDIT: Nice silly jab about “continuining to listen” to his shows. I never have. Infowars has been on the web for a long time. So have I. Wasn’t interested then either, even before Papa Cook decided to show us all the light about what’s good and bad.
Democracy over people’s right to speech? Are you mad? If 6 out of 10 people in a room don’t like what you’re saying, they should be allowed to censor you?
No, being a massive prick is fine...being Alex Jones is not.
Apple will not compromise itself for law enforcement by providing a backdoor because it would likely lead to total and complete compromise of all its users, globally, even for the bad guys. Apple is protecting privacy here. Alex Jones could put all the conspiracy he wants in his Notes app.
Woah, slow down. What Right are you taking about? You could still say anything you wanted within the law, nothing would change as far as your "Rights"
Censorship, curation, whatever. If I want to see Alex Jones, I know where to go. https://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/2...e-alex-jones-and-infowars-for-defamation.html
Being purged by Big Tech is the strongest possible indicator of one’s threat to the oligarchy.
This whole mess is about Alex Jones pointing out that Apple/Facebook/Google are all deeply in bed with the U.S. national security state, and that they are falling over themselves to get into bed with the Chinese internal security state.
This isn’t about hate speech. This is about Alex Jones posing a threat to Apple’s future profits.
And those of you prattling on about hate speech and feeling so virtuous... You’re being used, like tools. And in 99% of the cases here, you’ve never listened to him once. Not even for a second.
Meanwhile, teenagers everywhere are checking out “this Alex Jones guy they don’t want us to listen to.” And then, when they realize he’s actually pretty tame, they move on to the hard stuff.
Poor dumb Apple. You became the establishment. Unfortunately, you’re about as good at playing the establishment game as you are at updating the Mac Mini.
This whole mess is about Alex Jones pointing out that Apple/Facebook/Google are all deeply in bed with the U.S. national security state, and that they are falling over themselves to get into bed with the Chinese internal security state.
This isn’t about hate speech. This is about Alex Jones posing a threat to Apple’s future profits.
And those of you prattling on about hate speech and feeling so virtuous... You’re being used, like tools. And in 99% of the cases here, you’ve never listened to him once. Not even for a second.
Meanwhile, teenagers everywhere are checking out “this Alex Jones guy they don’t want us to listen to.” And then, when they realize he’s actually pretty tame, they move on to the hard stuff.
Poor dumb Apple. You became the establishment. Unfortunately, you’re about as good at playing the establishment game as you are at updating the Mac Mini.
I find Jones to be a bit of a troll, but it boggles my mind that so many are ok with what happened to him. A lot of the people praising his ban are also same people who are very vocal when it comes to defending net neutrality. There's gonna be a lot of upset folks once these corporations start silencing everyone, no matter the race, religion, political affiliation, or opinion.
Like the saying goes: You've made your bed, now lie in it.
Like the saying goes: You've made your bed, now lie in it.
“Maybe the government should implement some sort of credit score type rating system but based on what you say and do online and let people vote or rate you.”
Like I said: no, thanks.
I don't care that you don't think it's the point. It's not the point *you* agree with, so it's not the point. Who cares? You either straight up don't understand the difference or purposely don't want to understand the difference. No one "folded" on Jones. They decided to remove the cesspool from their networks.
You don't understand what free speech is, that's not on anyone else.
If it's in fact available via choice, that's not censorship. It doesn't matter that you don't understand what censorship is, or are pretending not to know. Stamping your feet repeatedly and insisting it's a 1A issue won't make it so, which is probably why you keep stamping your feet. No one's buying.
No not censor you, you would still be allowed to post and say what you want.
I have listened to virtually everything Jones has to say. I love arguing with his listeners, they're so mind controlled by the conspiracy bug it's hilarious. Of course, they call me the sheep...sort of like you're doing here. The threat to the oligarchy, hahahaha
No idea. They should probably remove if they feel it violates terms of their platform. I'm not familiar with the app itself, so I dunno.
Wait a minute, do you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what net neutrality is? Because that statement tells me that you do.
It means you can call yourself whatever you want, your actions have to demonstrate it as well.
We're talking about words, and I don't think there is any word that needs to be suppressed.
- Frank Zappa
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- Frank Zappa
https://archive.org/details/FrankZappaOnCrossfire
I've come to the conclusion that the folks arguing stuff like this, and that Jones being removed is a direct blow to freedom of speech are the real crisis actors.
What problems exactly are you going to learn about from infowars?! Seriously, it’s just a bunch of BS propaganda.
One and the same.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to sell me on a stance I said I agree with. Yes, they have a principled stance on privacy. They do not have one on free speech.