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Calling Obama a bigger disaster is simply partisan nonsense. Bush left us in a recession and started a major war based on misinformation. There's a big difference between that and the ACA or Iran deal when combined with a strong economy and low unemployment.
Don't pin the economic collapse just on Republicans. Democrats were strongly pushing for lending to all people and pushed the Alt-A mortgages. They were calling it racism for not lending to minorities who simply couldn't afford the loans.


And you would agree that the economy is doing very well right now and real unemployment is at historic lows?
 
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Of course not. Don’t be shocked by arguments I haven’t made that you’ve made for me. Wow.
You literally said that you found it obnoxious. Your post is still there. ^^^

I Just pointed out that Fox News itself isnt even 100% in lockstep with Trump, by any means, unlike how liberals are quick to portray and use that as their talking point
Except we were discussing the Disney purchase of Fox assets and how you believe that Disney not buying Fox News would lead to more anti-45 viewpoints.
 
And you would agree that the economy is doing very well right now and real unemployment is at historic lows?

People aren't seeing it in their paychecks. Wages are still stagnant. And the tax cut for the wealthy is now seen as that, even GOP pols aren't running on that tax cut anymore. The bonuses that were given out were a long time ago and eaten up by gas prices.

Oh, and also: Trump is so hated by most of the public that even with a booming economy, his poll numbers are in the gutter.
 
You literally said that you found it obnoxious. Your post is still there. ^^^


Except we were discussing the Disney purchase of Fox assets and how you believe that Disney not buying Fox News would lead to more anti-45 viewpoints.

Thanks for inserting another assertion I simply didnt make.

On that note I’m not replying to you anymore because “when they go low we go high”

Big blue wave in store for reasonable folks like you ;) you just wait
 
Don't pin the economic collapse just on Republicans. Democrats were strongly pushing for lending to all people and pushed the Alt-A mortgages. They were calling it racism for not lending to minorities who simply couldn't afford the loans.
Good deflection.

And you would agree that the economy is doing very well right now and real unemployment is at historic lows?
Of course.
 
People aren't seeing it in their paychecks. Wages are still stagnant. And the tax cut for the wealthy is now seen as that, even GOP pols aren't running on that tax cut anymore. The bonuses that were given out were a long time ago and eaten up by gas prices.

Oh, and also: Trump is so hated by most of the public that even with a booming economy, his poll numbers are in the gutter.
Over 50% is the gutter? Are those MSNBC talking points you're using? And you of course won't respond to enforcing current and established immigration laws now considered barbaric and racist by the left? Abolishment of ICE is nothing more than just another way to oppose any and everything Trump does. It is certainly not founded in reason.
 
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Thanks for inserting another assertion I simply didnt make.
You seem to have a problem owning what you said. Here is the quote from you saying that Disney not buying Fox News would lead to more anti-45 viewpoints.

Half of Fox News are rino never trumper and Disney bought 20th century Fox which owns Fox News. So I expect the never trumper rhetoric to only
Go up.
 
You seem to have a problem owning what you said. Here is the quote from you saying that Disney not buying Fox News would lead to more anti-45 viewpoints.

“Expecting” predicated on the assumption they are taking over Fox News. Not discounting there are already many never trumpers on the channel

Liberals hold onto every word you say. You’re completely unhinged mah dude. Obsessive. I still think a “spin off” means a rebranding not disassociated with the acquisition. Couldn’t find anything conclusive one way or another so I won’t even Say I am wrong. I am open to being wrong tho unlike you. One post in this thread isn’t gospel saying that they aren’t taking over Fox News.

Liberals paint a Broad brush that Fox News is 100 percent of the time pro trump. And that simply isn’t fact or reality. But they insist.

Get a grip imo. And realize you can get as mad and hysterical as you want. You really can and I encourage it

BUT And this is the big but like the economy soaring which you can’t argue with (but many still will because they are anti trump on virtually everything doesn’t matter the issue or fact or evidence or anything it’s Derangement Syndrome)

It’s not
Gonna make a lick of difference. Midterms. 2020. So please I beg you. Carry on with your antics. Because it doesn’t affect ANYTHING

does that make you more unhinged knowing how powerless you are despite all your screeching?
 
Over 50% is the gutter? Are those MSNBC talking points you're using? And you of course won't respond to enforcing current and established immigration laws now considered barbaric and racist by the left? Abolishment of ICE is nothing more than just another way to oppose any and everything Trump does. It is certainly not founded in reason.

I have responded to them previously, just not you. You think you're the first guy to regurgitate Fox News Warrior talking points about Trump's nazi border policies? Your points have been debunked for a while now, I'm not interested in rehaving that particular argument. ICE are stormtroopers. We're gonna win that one too, so prep your skull for incoming explosion. ;)

As for polling, he's not anywhere near 50%. If you're going to accuse me of using MSNBC, perhaps don't use Rassmussen as your checkmate.

I linked to a site that aggregates polls from all over in a previous post. Feel free to check that out. Or not and keep saying "50%".
 
“Expecting” predicated on the assumption they are taking over Fox News. Not discounting there are already many never trumpers on the channel
And I told you that you were wrong about Disney taking over Fox News. Instead of accepting that simple fact, you have gone off on a lovely rant full of stereotypes and unicorns and personal insults.
 
And I told you that you were wrong about Disney taking over Fox News. Instead of accepting that simple fact, you have gone off on a lovely rant full of stereotypes and unicorns and personal insults.

No you haven’t cited where you are correct. as I’ve stated 3x everything I’ve read led me to believe it’s part of the acquisition but a rebranding spin off and not a spin off from its umbrella ownership. There is a difference. These things matter especially if you pretend to care and be so correct and hold onto things I don’t wish to debate and the larger point still stands not 100 percent pro trump network. You just live in the petty. It’s your main craft. “You made a typo” is your big victory for the day or
“you made a huge error
So I’m gonna fill In the rest of the argument for you and say you’re wrong over and over”

And I don’t care for your behavior to be frank. Childish at best and Sadly embarrassing if you’re a grown adult on the other end, at worst. So Why on god’s Green earth would I Face value trust you with anything?

You would be confused by that because by all accounts you seem lacking in the
Logic department, argument wise

Screech on! Resist!!!

Better yet leave USA. For your safety and well being While you can, you know? THE FASCISM MIGHT TAKE OVER SOON! Cheetoh Hitler is moving in quick!!! Ahhh
 
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No you haven’t cited where you are correct. as I’ve stated 3x everything I’ve read led me to believe it’s part of the acquisition but a rebranding spin off and not a spin off from its umbrella ownership. There is a difference. These things matter especially if you pretend to care and be so correct and hold onto things I don’t wish to debate and the larger point still stands not 100 percent pro trump network. You just live in the petty. It’s your main craft. “You made a typo” is your big victory for the day or
“you made a huge error
So I’m gonna fill In the rest of the argument for you and say you’re wrong over and over”

And I don’t care for your behavior to be frank. Childish at best and Sadly embarrassing if you’re a grown adult on the other end, at worst. So Why on god’s Green earth would I Face value trust you with anything?

You would be confused by that because by all accounts you seem lacking in the
Logic department, argument wise

Screech on! Resist!!!

Better yet leave USA. For your safety and well being While you can, you know? THE FASCISM MIGHT TAKE OVER SOON! Cheetoh Hitler is moving in!!! Ahhh
If you wanted a source, you could have just asked nicely. Instead of the rants and personal insults.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fox_by_Disney#2017
"The deal would reportedly exclude the Fox Broadcasting Company, 20th Century Fox's studio lot, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, the Fox Business Network, and Fox Sports, which would be spun off into a new independent company run by the Murdoch family."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/21s...o-sell-most-of-company-to-disney-sources.html
"The company could not own two broadcast networks and would therefore not buy the Fox broadcast network. It would not buy Fox's sports programming assets in the belief that combining them with ESPN could be seen as anti-competitive from an antitrust standpoint and it would not buy the Fox News or Business channel. Disney would also not purchase Fox's local broadcasting affiliates, according to people familiar with the negotiations."
 
If you wanted a source, you could have just asked nicely. Instead of the rants and personal insults.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fox_by_Disney#2017
"The deal would reportedly exclude the Fox Broadcasting Company, 20th Century Fox's studio lot, Fox Television Stations, Fox News, the Fox Business Network, and Fox Sports, which would be spun off into a new independent company run by the Murdoch family."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/21s...o-sell-most-of-company-to-disney-sources.html
"The company could not own two broadcast networks and would therefore not buy the Fox broadcast network. It would not buy Fox's sports programming assets in the belief that combining them with ESPN could be seen as anti-competitive from an antitrust standpoint and it would not buy the Fox News or Business channel. Disney would also not purchase Fox's local broadcasting affiliates, according to people familiar with the negotiations."

Thank you.

Can you now concede I said, multiple times, that my larger point still remains that Fox News isnt 100% TRUMP by any means, even though that is the common perception amongst liberals, and one that is perpetuated by them?

For example- If you think globalist Shepherd Smith is wearing a MAGA hat and singing his praises all day, you’re gravely mistaken.

I can absolutely admit to being wrong/making an error. I’m curious if you can as well.
 
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I Just pointed out that Fox News itself isnt even 100% in lockstep with Trump, by any means, unlike how liberals are quick to portray and use that as their talking point

Fox's slant depends on the host, but libs don't watch it so they wouldn't know.

What's curious to me is why libs are disturbed by Fox and single it out?
Why does every network have to tell the same lie the same way with the same emphasis to satisfy them?
 
Thank you.

Can you now concede I said, multiple times, that my larger point stil remains that Fox News isnt 100% TRUMP by any means, even though that is the common perception amongst liberals, and one that is perpetuated by them? If you think Shepherd Smith is wearing a MAGA hat and singing his praises all day, you’re gravely mistaken.

I can admit to being wrong/making an error. I’m curious if you can as well.

So you feel Fox News is, indeed, fair and balanced? Is that correct?
 
So you feel Fox News is, indeed, fair and balanced? Is that correct?

Of course not. Why are arguments being made for me? Should I bother speaking at all? Probably not I’m sure some of you would prefer I be banned for expressing my views

Why am I the Fox News defender? I don’t even like Fox News LoL. It’s hard to Be pressured into arguing for something im not even for. But I also can’t just take your emotions as evidence of fact because then we’re just cavemen uttering to each other


To crack pandora’s Box on Fox News- big surprise but you are correct
They are conservative leaning. And water is wet. But the Conservative party as you are well aware, like the Democratic Party is undergoing a bit of an identity crisis.

We have the former Manhattan liberal re defining the Conservative party, trump, and Rinos being left out to dry and disavowing everything he does while showing their bipartisanship by resisting progress. They aren’t any better than the average liberal. Period.

While Democrats wrestle with staying left leaning rhetoric wise and continuing without any actual results or appeal or votes, just putting people down, or
going full blown socialist to rob everyone of their wealth and remove all economic incentive so USA turns into Venezuala level F’d overnight

There are problems on both sides of the aisle to be sure


The fact you guys are obsessed with Fox News indicates to me ... you guys are obsessed with Fox News. This is an infowars thread and you can’t let Fox News go. Can’t have a mainstream media conservative outlet whatsoever. Apparently.

I don’t feel the same way about
Liberal mainstream media. We can have whatever is out there and let free market decide and let the bad ones tank. As it usually
Does.
 
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I guess among the worst is that he claims the Sandy Hook massacre was a fake, and claims that the parents of the murdered children are paid actors. To the point where his followers have started stalking an harassing the parents. I suppose this means I "disagree" with him.

Wow. What a crazy guy (Edit:I guess I should listen before I judge). Sounds like I would not support his theories either. IMO, Apple should still allow even if it is crazy stuff like that.
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You're asking people to be open minded to opinion from the other side while denying peer-reviewed scientific data from the other side. Alanis Morrissette found rotting.

Are you sure you are on the right page, and responding to actual posts? This topic is about some conspiracy guy being censored by Apple.
 
Of course not. Why are arguments being made for me? Should I bother speaking at all? Probably not I’m sure some of you would prefer I be banned for expressing my views

Why am I the Fox News defender? I don’t even like Fox News LoL. It’s hard to Be pressured into arguing for something im not even for. But I also can’t just take your emotions as evidence of fact because then we’re just cavemen uttering to each other

For someone hellbent on telling everyone else they're too emotional, you seem to lose your stuff over every single post aimed your way. My post contained question marks, not periods. I didn't make a single declaration.

If you're gonna insist it's everyone else using emotions as fact, maybe stop going ape-poop over even the most simple question. ;)

To crack pandora’s Box on Fox News- big surprise but you are correct
They are conservative leaning. And water is wet. But the Conservative party as you are well aware, like the Democratic Party is undergoing a bit of an identity crisis.

We have the former Manhattan liberal re defining the Conservative party, trump, and Rinos being left out to dry and disavowing everything he does while showing their bipartisanship by resisting progress. They aren’t any better than the average liberal. Period.

While Democrats wrestle with staying left leaning rhetoric wise and continuing without any actual results or appeal or votes, just putting people down, or
going full blown socialist to rob everyone of their wealth so USA turns into Venezuala overnight

There are problems on both sides of the aisle to be sure


The fact you guys are obsessed with Fox News indicates to me ... you guys are obsessed with Fox News. This is an infowars thread and you can’t let Fox News go. Can’t have a mainstream media conservative outlet whatsoever. Apparently.

I don’t feel the same way about
Liberal mainstream media. We can have whatever is out there and let free market decide and let the bad ones tank. As it usually
Does.

I brought up Fox as part of a larger point posts ago. You've been pretty ranty about it ever since. Is this one of those things like where you guys bring up Hillary Clinton out of nowhere and then tell the person you're arguing with to stop obsessing about Hillary Clinton?
 
Are you sure you are on the right page, and responding to actual posts? This topic is about some conspiracy guy being censored by Apple.

I think this says all we need to know before deciding whether to engage you in conversation. Congrats, I guess.
 
For someone hellbent on telling everyone else they're too emotional, you seem to lose your stuff over every single post aimed your way. My post contained question marks, not periods. I didn't make a single declaration.

If you're gonna insist it's everyone else using emotions as fact, maybe stop going ape-poop over even the most simple question. ;)



I brought up Fox as part of a larger point posts ago. You've been pretty ranty about it ever since. Is this one of those things like where you guys bring up Hillary Clinton out of nowhere and then tell the person you're arguing with to stop obsessing about Hillary Clinton?

...Asking if Fox News is a conservative outlet is, objectively, a dumb question. I can’t help but be condescending replying to such an assinine inquiry. It’s hysterically dumb.

“Oh macrumors ... interesting ! Might that have anything to do with the Mac or Apple or rumors?”

WhatEVER gave you that idea?

But there’s a lot More nuance to these ideas you
Throw out than just “conservative, ew
Gross!” It’s not all black and white. But that must make moral justification that much less objectionable / allow less room for thought, if you Do view everything on such simple terms
 
...Asking if Fox News is a conservative outlet is, objectively, a dumb question. I can’t help but be condescending replying to such an assinine inquiry. It’s hysterically dumb.

“Oh macrumors ... interesting ! Might that have anything to do with the Mac or Apple or rumors?”

WhatEVER gave you that idea?

I didn't ask if they were conservative.

Feel free to take another swing at this one, except maybe go easy on your own face in the process this time if you do. ;)
 
For someone hellbent on telling everyone else they're too emotional, you seem to lose your stuff over every single post aimed your way. My post contained question marks, not periods. I didn't make a single declaration.

If you're gonna insist it's everyone else using emotions as fact, maybe stop going ape-poop over even the most simple question. ;)



I brought up Fox as part of a larger point posts ago. You've been pretty ranty about it ever since. Is this one of those things like where you guys bring up Hillary Clinton out of nowhere and then tell the person you're arguing with to stop obsessing about Hillary Clinton?

There is a reason they have earned the name "Bleeding heart", and we just can't stop obsessing about HRC. She is so easy to use in an argument. And if you wan't to speak about obsessing....read the Trump posts, watch the news, read Salon (or whatever liberal publication you like).
 
There is a reason they have earned the name "Bleeding heart", and we just can't stop obsessing about HRC. She is so easy to use in an argument. And if you wan't to speak about obsessing....read the Trump posts.

I'm with you. It's my hope that Trump and the GOP continue to run on Hillary Clinton this year, and 2020.
 
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