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Well, we're working on banning Trump here in the U.S.

For what legal grounds? Just because you don't like him doesn't work. What you do is wait until election time and cast your vote. That is the great thing about the U.S.
 
Why is the podcast removed but the app still accessible? How could Infowars be hate speech in the podcast directory and not hate speech in the app store?
 
And this is part of why these moves are self-defeating. All Apple has done is give Infowars and Alex Jones additional publicity and fueled conspiracy theories. It would've been better if they had just left it alone.

If he actual got banned by multiple major tech companies in the same day, like he clearly did in a 12h span kicked off by Apple ... it ceases to be conspiracy ‘theory’. At that point it’s purely conspiracy validated unless you just repel all uncomfortable facts. This isn’t a difficult observation.

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Why is the podcast removed but the app still accessible? How could Infowars be hate speech in the podcast directory and not hate speech in the app store?

Apple’s Attention to detail ;)
 
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The anti free speech liberal mob is gonna go after Tim Cook “Why did you make infowars brand and following even stronger?!?!? Overnight?!?”

He reaps what he sows :D
 
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For what legal grounds? Just because you don't like him doesn't work. What you do is wait until election time and cast your vote. That is the great thing about the U.S.

Yeah, that's what I meant. You may want to unclench now.
 
He has stated he is making it all up. That's not a different angle. That's not conflicting info. If I told you that your house were on fire, and you're sitting in it with no flames anywhere, do we just disagree on the temp or
Are you not for free speech? You realize that much of what you see from the media such as CNN is 1+1=1,000,000,003.3456. If you are not getting both sides of a story then you are being programmed. Open your mind. I am not familiar with with Alex Jones, but do not be closed minded. Make sure you are open to both sides of an argument before you form an opinion.

Edit: Censoring one side would be like only hearing the prosecutor in a court case. You need to hear both sides to get accurate info.
It is a total fallacy that there are “two sides” (hint, there are more). It is also incredibly disrespectful to professional journalists of all stripes and backgrounds, from every country in the world, to claim they are all in the can for whatever cause you hate today. Maybe if you left your house at met people, you would understand that almost everyone is doing their best and operating in good faith. Just because you don’t, and are incapable of imaging people that do, does not change the situation one bit.
Go ****ing watch Roshomon or something. Jesus.
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The anti free speech liberal mob is gonna go after Tim Cook “Why did you make infowars brand and following even stronger?!?!? Overnight?!?”

He reaps what he sows :D

More transparently pathetic projection.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-p...nt-to-give-trump-the-power-to-shut-down-media

43% of republicans think the president should be able to close down any news outlet (free speech) he wants.
 
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Are you not for free speech? You realize that much of what you see from the media such as CNN is 1+1=1,000,000,003.3456. If you are not getting both sides of a story then you are being programmed. Open your mind. I am not familiar with with Alex Jones, but do not be closed minded. Make sure you are open to both sides of an argument before you form an opinion.

Edit: Censoring one side would be like only hearing the prosecutor in a court case. You need to hear both sides to get accurate info.

In another thread we gave you overwhelming amounts of evidence about the biological basis of homosexuality and you basically said you didn't want to hear it and what you were told as a child is irrefutable truth to you regardless of what the other side says.
 
No im suggesting if we only have the mainstream medias agenda then we will all by the very nature of it, be biased.

Holy crap. I have a shocking revelation for you: Everyone and everything is biased. You, me, that guy. _everyone_. So get over it! You want everyone to be robots or what? Everyone has memories, values, a background, and judgement. These form biases. Wow! I am biased against being hit by a car or a cruise missile. Wow! Much bias! Amazing. How do you not understand that people other than you have also made to their minds about things. Your sad solipsistic view is hilarious. Only you have the truth! Only you have the right biases! Everyone else is in on the scam! Ooga booga!
 
It is a total fallacy that there are “two sides” (hint, there are more). It is also incredibly disrespectful to professional journalists of all stripes and backgrounds, from every country in the world, to claim they are all in the can for whatever cause you hate today. Maybe if you left your house at met people, you would understand that almost everyone is doing their best and operating in good faith. Just because you don’t, and are incapable of imaging people that do, does not change the situation one bit.
Go ****ing watch Roshomon or something. Jesus.
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More transparently pathetic projection.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-p...nt-to-give-trump-the-power-to-shut-down-media

43% of republicans think the president should be able to close down any news outlet (free speech) he wants.

I can tell you’re upset and that’s cool and totally your right but you are denying basic fact and observation. That’s on display for others to see for themselves. It cant possibly be spun another way, than the way it is , but you certainly can try

& No projection either (I’m not a censor hungry executive) just saying Tim cook’s plAn isnt working out so well. It didnt age well. In a day. :D

But keep rambling if it makes you feel better.
 
You didn't include a chart because you know when you went looking for information to disprove me you found a truth you don't want to admit haha Welcome to the real world.
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Thus, you will never find in all nature two identical objects; in the natural order, therefore, two and two can never make four, for, to attain that result, we must combine units that are exactly alike, and you know that it is impossible to find two leaves alike on the same tree, or two identical individuals in the same species of tree.

That axiom of your numeration, false in visible nature, is false likewise in the invisible universe of your abstractions, where the same variety is found in your ideas, which are the objects of the visible world extended by their interrelations; indeed, the differences are more striking there than elsewhere - Honore de Balzac Seraphita

Congrats, you can copy and paste from Honoré de Balzac works.

The fact still remains, 1+1=2
And Alex Jones is in the business of spreading the belief that 1+1=3

Best of luck out there in the world. I'd like you to see how you function convincing any merchant that $3 is the sum of $1 and $1 by quoting Honoré de Balzac in the check out line at Whole Foods, Target, Starbucks or any place you frequent. lol
I would pay $1+$1=$3 to see that and rate it 5/7!

Bless your heart.
 
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I can tell you’re upset and that’s cool and totally your right but you are denying basic fact and observation. That’s on display for others to see for themselves. It cant possibly be spun another way, than the way it is , but you certainly can try

& No projection either (I’m not a censor hungry executive) just saying Tim cook’s plAn isnt working out so well. It didnt age well. In a day. :D

But keep rambling if it makes you feel better.
Lol. Junior, you will know when I’m upset.

I just showed how your absurd contention about “anti free speech left censoring everyone” is complete at odds with actual science showing that the republican bootlickers are the ones that actually want to shut down 1a free speech if President Daddy says to.
If you don’t care to back up your initial contention, that’s understandable since it was misguided in the first place.
 
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Lol. Junior, you will know when I’m upset.

I just showed how your absurd contention about “anti free speech left censoring everyone” is complete at odds with actual science showing that the republican bootlickers are the ones that actually want to shut down 1a free speech if President Daddy says to.
If you don’t care to back up your initial contention, that’s understandable since it was misguided in the first place.

I hadn’t realized this was your happy non upset rhetoric. Apologies for being so off base and assumptive :D

If this is you when you aren’t upset, I’ll bet you’re a whole heap of fun when you actually are upset

Life’s tough isn’t it? Corporate Censorship plans not going as planned. Oh dang gee.

This is me caring.
Also an obligatory : love trump’s hate
 
I have never listened to the Infowars show, but have heard enough clips and analysis of his clips to know that the man clearly has some serious mental health issues. But it is not my place to judge his podcast or people who enjoy listening for entertainment. I am generally a Constitutional free-speech absolutist and believe that Jones has the right to say whatever he wants on his show; that anyone who wants to listen or stop listening also has that right; and that Apple, as a private company, can ban him from their platform for any reason.

I do not, however, believe that we should try and define something called "hate speech". I think people should have the ability to say whatever they want to say, but be prepared for any potential consequences of that speech. It takes a lot of arrogance to believe that "you" can judge other people's speech. We should all be adult enough to turn off the media device, television, you-tube channel, radio......or personally boycott the business or leave the premises, if we don't like what someone else has to say for whatever reason they say it.

Apple, Google, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc. should not be the arbiters of free speech nor are we so delicate that we cannot protect ourselves from speech we personally don't like. I find it very offensive to have anyone on any platform of any political persuasion allege (inaccurately) that we are all like-minded, robotic, automatons who believe and behave in the way we are "programmed" by some charismatic leader. If there is one thing I know about Americans, the vast majority do their research, think for themselves, and hate having someone else tell them how to think or what to do.
 
There are always two sides to a story. Let each side speak.
The left isn't interested in hearing opposing views. They categorically determine what is and isn't hate speech, and basically they have become so delusional they believe that only what conservative minded people say is hate speech. Liberals could never be racists, sexists, misogynistic, Islamophobics, or any other number of isms and phobics Conservatives are routinely accused of being. Look the number of people in this thread who are excusing away Sarah Jeong's racist statements.
 
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The left isn't interested in hearing opposing views. They categorically determine what is and isn't hate speech, and basically they have become so delusional they believe that only what conservative minded people say is hate speech. Liberals could never be racists, sexists, misogynistic, Islamophobics, or any other number of isms and phobics Conservatives are routinely accused of being. Look the number of people in this thread who are excusing away Sarah Jeong's racist statements.

43% of republicans think President Daddy should be able to shut down any news outlet he wants.
 
43% of republicans think President Daddy should be able to shut down any news outlet he wants.

Criticism isn’t the same thing as shutting down. But conflate away to your hearts content

Cnn has an impeccable track record indeed
 
The left isn't interested in hearing opposing views. They categorically determine what is and isn't hate speech, and basically they have become so delusional they believe that only what conservative minded people say is hate speech. Liberals could never be racists, sexists, misogynistic, Islamophobics, or any other number of isms and phobics Conservatives are routinely accused of being. Look the number of people in this thread who are excusing away Sarah Jeong's racist statements.

GOP owns WH, both chambers, and Fox is "the most watched news network on cable".

Gee, if only there was an outlet for conservatives to be heard...
 
I hadn’t realized this was your happy non upset rhetoric. Apologies for being so off base and assumptive :D

If this is you when you aren’t upset, I’ll bet you’re a whole heap of fun when you actually are upset

Life’s tough isn’t it? Corporate Censorship plans not going as planned. Oh dang gee.

This is me caring.
Also an obligatory : love trump’s hate

You ran the dishonest argument playbook very nicely. You made a claim, I refuted it with evidence, you claim I am emotional and that you don’t care about the subject anyway.
So that’s good for you, I guess?
 
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43% of republicans think President Daddy should be able to shut down any news outlet he wants.
43% of statistics a taken are incorrect. What does that have to do with anything I said? The left could never be honest enough with themselves or anyone else to admit their own grievances and hypocrisy. It's only the right's fault. Delusional.
 
I think people should have the ability to say whatever they want to say, but be prepared for any potential consequences of that speech.

...provided those consequences don't include companies deciding not to be in business with you?

Which reminds me: what happened to all the free market conservatives? A baker should be able to refuse to make a cake for gay people, but Apple must stay in business with a racist, lunatic phony or it's the death of 1A?
 
43% of statistics a taken are incorrect. What does that have to do with anything I said? The left could never be honest enough with themselves or anyone else to admit their own grievances and hypocrisy. It's only the right's fault. Delusional.

Another honest debater.
“My argument would be correct if only those crafty Libs would admit their treachery!”
 
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GOP owns WH, both chambers, and Fox is "the most watched news network on cable".

Gee, if only there was an outlet for conservatives to be heard...
You're right, except given the opportunity, you and your leftist pals would shut down Fox and remove all conservative members of congress from the WH and congress. That's the point. You people don't want to allow dissent from your own views. Very reminiscent of the Nationalialsozialist Party so incorrectly compared to Republican politicians. I remember the Bush/Hitler comparisons too. Pathetic.
 
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