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Apple Removes Five of Six Infowars Podcast Series From iTunes Directory
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Right. The vitriol of the left has never been seen on this magnitude since civil rights. Again, you didn't address the fact that there is a serious double standard between conservative speech and liberal speech and what is allowed and perceived as hate speech. Liberal speech is allowed under all terms and is never considered to be hate speech, but somehow conservatives routinely are censored and accused of hate speech.
Defamation of grieving parents isn’t nice either. Also those poor people have been harassed for years because of him. Apple doesn’t want to be part of it and that’s fine. They are a private company and don’t have to host anything they don’t want to.
While some things are subject to perception and subjective judgement, that *doesn’t mean you have to through your hands up and give up on assessing whether or not something should be considered hate speech*.
Alex Jones demonizes classes of people and speaks of them as if they are contemptible. His claim that “water making our frogs gay” is a more light example of the kind of agenda he’s pushing. Media companies seem to have been debating Info Wars’ removal for a while, and it just seems that the last straw was pulled.
OMG remember that time the libs wanted poc to have the same access to society as white people???
I didn't address your non-fact because it's stupid. Conservative speech, as it were, is not censored. However, private companies do not owe a platform to anyone who engages in speech that promotes violence.
Maybe you should allow for some introspection as to why it is "conservative speech" seems to fall into this category a great deal. The easy answer for you is "The librul medias" but that's just not true. Alex Jones *should* be silenced, no company should be in business with him. If he wants to stand on a soapbox yelling into a megaphone, go for it.
Yup, I"m good with "voices" such as his having no platform. And yet I support 1A. Amazing how that works.
They aren’t public sector though. Big difference.
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Yes, Apple has the authority to curate their catalog just the same as Walmart can refuse to put Hustler on the shelves.
Apple has shares publicly shared on the market, they still control the content that goes through their services. In my reference to Apple being a private company was in regards to freedom of speech which means speech is protected from Gov infringement, not private or in this case publicly traded companies. Again this is not a freedom of speech issue.
What’s stupid is implying Apple is a government. Even more stupid is assuming a man like Steve Jobs wouldn’t have been so disgusted with Alex Jones that he wouldn’t have done the exact same thing, and had choice words for you for complaining about it. Go buy Android products then, and enjoy your attacks in Islam and shooting victims.
The fact you see no bias in the media says enough. You seem to forget Jim Crow laws were DEMOCRAT and Martin Luther King was not a liberal. He called for non-violent protest for equality and was killed for it. Doesn't matter party affiliation, I'm merely pointing out the level of vitriol now is comparable to what we saw in the 1960s judging by a similar amount of vitriol and outright violence being called for by leftist maniacs like Maxine Waters, Michael Moore, Madonna, etc. Where's the liberal outrage for that? It's a pathetic double standard.
Going back to Apple's decision to remove Alex Jones, I have no issue with that. They can do as they please. My gripe has always been that there is a wholesale attempt at censorship of conservative content in many media outlets like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Again, the left is tolerant to those who agree with them, but all others are viewed as bigots, racists, yada yada yada.
Alex Jones said Sandy Hook was a government hoax and that the dead children and their grieving parents were all “crisis actors.”Hence the snowflake virusEspecially in U.S. where something someone doesn't like to hear is basically hate speech for them. Rationality doesn't exist it seems.
Alex Jones peddled the absolutely f@&$#% insane Pizzagate story that ended up causing a nut job to open fire on innocent people.
Apple should have removed his podcasts a long time ago.
I beg to differ. Half the reason the financial crisis happened in the US in 2008 was due to scum lenders specifically preying on lower income/knowledge people giving them loads of free money which they couldn't pay back. That right there is pure proof people cant always decide the best thing for themselves. Budgeting 101 would tell the average person you cant live in a 300k home if you only make 30k per year.
I could also apply the same logic to how a lifelong democrat (Donald Trump) got elected. People are easily swindled on BOTH sides and in many ways.
Lol what. I think you mean publicly traded. Apple is in no way publicly owned.
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Show me the liberal equivalent of Pizzagate (which resulted in a shooting) or calling Sandy Hook parents crisis actors. Show me. Or better yet, show Apple, and I’m sure they’d ban it too.
This is the problem with right wing rhetoric in America today. Totally unable to perceive false equivalencies and apparently unable to use basic logic.
Again you're trying to turn this into a left vs right issue. What if Apple just didn't like the nut case tin foil crazy nonsense being sold via their site? Are you suggesting that the crazy things that Jones spews is conservative views? Im not sure trying to put Jones on your team is the right approach.
The simple fact is Jones is still free to peddle his BS elsewhere and those upset by Apple's move are free to express that view via boycott. But trying to make this a black and white issue when it's clearly more then that is a weak argument.
I’m not an info wars listener, I think he’s a kook. That being said, it seems like there is a double standard for free speech. Everybody is ok with Apple and Facebook removing this guy and his content because they don’t agree with the guy and his content. Everybody was also just fine with Facebook removing Diamond and Silk. When Obama was president, nobody had a problem with him using the IRS to scrutinize and deny tax exempt applications for Tea Party groups and conservative organizations. Those groups just won a class action lawsuit by the way.
My son goes to a college with signs all over the campus that says “stigma free zone”. In the meantime, the school’s baseball team comes back from an away game, getting off the bus with their red hats and white lettering (school colors) and students started screaming at them and throwing things thinking they were all wearing MAGA hats. Conservative speakers are threatened to not speak on college campuses, and people throw garbage cans through windows and set things on fire when these speakers proceed anyway.
Maxine Waters tells supporters to “confront” Trump staffers, and they should not find comfort in any setting forgetting about the guy that “confronted” the Republican softball team just last year.
This is not ok. The left wing should be just as concerned as the right wing. And those that say this is not a freedom of speech issue need to quiet their mouths when they defend the NFL players kneeling for the Anthem.
By the way, this move won’t shut him down, it will only fuel and legitimize the guy’s conspiracy theory, and feed him to a larger audience.
My son goes to a college with signs all over the campus that says “stigma free zone”. In the meantime, the school’s baseball team comes back from an away game, getting off the bus with their red hats and white lettering (school colors) and students started screaming at them and throwing things thinking they were all wearing MAGA hats. Conservative speakers are threatened to not speak on college campuses, and people throw garbage cans through windows and set things on fire when these speakers proceed anyway.
Maxine Waters tells supporters to “confront” Trump staffers, and they should not find comfort in any setting forgetting about the guy that “confronted” the Republican softball team just last year.
This is not ok. The left wing should be just as concerned as the right wing. And those that say this is not a freedom of speech issue need to quiet their mouths when they defend the NFL players kneeling for the Anthem.
By the way, this move won’t shut him down, it will only fuel and legitimize the guy’s conspiracy theory, and feed him to a larger audience.
Ummmm they just reported their quarterly earnings to investors since they are PUBLIC. Apple is a slave to Wall Street so no they absolutely cant just do whatever they want with everything.
Honestly how do you people not understand, THIS IS NOT A FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISSUE. Freedom of speech refers to Gov infringement on one's speech, that's it. It doesnt expand to companies dictating content on their own sites.
You're making zero sense here. You voted for a man who literally called on his supporters to beat people up. He defended nazis in Charlottesville. The "vitriol" as you've decided to define it, is in reaction to being told it's okay for nazis to beat you up.
Yeah, my "librul outrage" is reserved for the POTUS calling for these things vs, say, MADONNA. My priorities are all screwed up that way.
You don't understand what censorship is, so I can totally appreciate that it's causing you a great deal of frustration.
If folks don't want to be viewed as racists, they probably shouldn't say racist things. It's not a hard formula to follow.
If one defines “truth” as verifiable facts, it’s the right wing that seems to have the problem these days. And the ability to find exceptions, and I agree there are some, doesn’t invalidate the reality that these deep state, infowars, Qanon people call anything the truth as long as it already agrees with their world view, and anything fake that diesagrees with their world view. Those who honor facts will adopt their views to verifiable evidence as it emerges, as opposed to those who don’t, who distort facts t suit their tastes. The former takes far more courage and maturity. Ask these nuts if there’s proof of the tittilating lies they believe and your answer will be, “Well, there’s no proof that it *isn’t* true!” That’s not how the rules of evidence work. If it were, then since you can’t DISprove that the universe wasn’t created by a benevolent Flying Spaghetti Monster, it must be true.
Yet another false equivalency. Advocates for round earth theory weren’t advocates for hurting other people. I don’t mind nutcases who proclaim the planet is tetrahedral. I intensely mind nutcases promoting violence. If part of the tetrahedral planet lobby advocated violence, I’d be against them too.
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I think we actually agree on the part about Apple. Again, I have no problem with what they've done as it's their right.
Most people who don't support gay marriage believe that gay people are somehow less than straight people, and I see that as a form of hatred and distain.
Hence the snowflake virus
Rationality itself is exactly what you're complaining about.