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You're making zero sense here. You voted for a man who literally called on his supporters to beat people up. He defended nazis in Charlottesville. The "vitriol" as you've decided to define it, is in reaction to being told it's okay for nazis to beat you up.

Yeah, my "librul outrage" is reserved for the POTUS calling for these things vs, say, MADONNA. My priorities are all screwed up that way.



You don't understand what censorship is, so I can totally appreciate that it's causing you a great deal of frustration.

If folks don't want to be viewed as racists, they probably shouldn't say racist things. It's not a hard formula to follow.
It's ok. You've resorted to personal attacks which means we've got nothing further to debate. And you have no idea who I voted for. It's ok for liberals like Sarah Jeong to say racist remarks against white males and that's acceptable to "libruls"...got it.
 
I cannot stand Alex Jones especially for his harassment of grieving parents and promotion of pseudoscience (health potions, antivax etc.) and I understand this is Apple's call but - I am not sure wholesale suppression of certain viewpoints is the most effective way to go about countering them. It creates a sense of persecution and martyrdom.

Very specific persecution for harassment of individuals is justified I think.
 
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But now millions more will become aware of alternative news, and that’s a good thing.
“Alternative news” is hilarious to me. Almost as good as “alternative facts.”

The only thing that really hurts it is that some people are truly gullible enough to buy it. Virtually none of what Alex Jones says under the weakest logical examination.

Oh, yes, he’s just “playing a character.”

And again, you’re all gullible enough to buy it.
 
Ummmm they just reported their quarterly earnings to investors since they are PUBLIC. Apple is a slave to Wall Street so no they absolutely cant just do whatever they want with everything.
You’re confusing privately held, which Apple isn’t, with private sector (vs. municipal) which Apple most certainly is. As a corporation they’re free to make these kinds of decisions. And if their shareholders or board don’t like it enough, they’ll know.
 
“Anti-fasicist are good guys”
Hey buddy, they are communist scum. They damage property and have no morals. Looks like you have been brainwashed by the Marxist idelogoy.
LOL well argued! This is why fascists need to be punched and not debated. Debate is just another game for them and they have no sense of respect for truth or fairness to an opponent. They just want to accuse. Anyway, here is something just for you, sucker.

 
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It's ok. You've resorted to personal attacks which means we've got nothing further to debate. And you have no idea who I voted for. It's ok for liberals like Sarah Jeong to say racist remarks against white males and that's acceptable to "libruls"...got it.

Oh, you're bailing because all this time telling everyone they're hypocrites because they don't like Alex Jones and his ilk due to racism was you making an "honest, open" argument and most certainly not attacking people. And...not sure what Sarah Jeong has to do with ANY of this, but whatevs.

Yeah yeah, you didn't vote for Trump, don't like him, but darn it the libruls are so crazy with the hatred, they needed to be owned hard. Make sure their heads get all good and exploded!

Jesus Christ, you guys all shop at the same Conservative Online Talking Points Store.
 
I’m against false charges of hate speech and for fairness. There is no worse crime in our time than hate speech. To falsely accuse someone is disgusting.

I’m sure there are all sorts of crazy podcasts on iTunes. I’m sure there are all sorts of podcasts I’d consider disgusting and immoral. But is Apple providing an open forum or a censored forum? Can Apple even censor people? I think not.

I don’t listen to Jones. The one thing I do know is he exposed the freaks at the Bohemian Grove party. Everyone denied the freakiness of that event. Some even denied the event. As a promoter of conspiracies he actually has credibility. But again, I don’t listen to him. However, I think he shouldn’t be libeled, which I think Apple did.

He wasn't libeled, he made his own bed. Aside from Sandy Hook he also parroted the fake story invented by a bored housewife about Comet Ping Pong and an underground child abuse ring. He had zero evidence to back up such nonsense and a guy with a gun showed up at the restaurant ready to kill people. Alex is dangerous.
 
Is occurs to me that none of Apple’s maligners here are asking why Apple removed only 5/6 of Jones’s podcasts. What’s on the other one that was okay? Could it be that they really are going after specific messages and not the messenger in general? I wonder if Jones and his ilk would have that kind of maturity were the roles reversed. (Actually, I don’t.)
 
Oh, you're bailing because all this time telling everyone they're hypocrites because they don't like Alex Jones for racism was you making an "honest, open" argument and most certainly not attacking people. And...not sure what Sarah Jeong has to do with ANY of this, but whatevs.

Yeah yeah, you didn't vote for Trump, don't like him, but darn it the libruls are so crazy with the hatred, they needed to be owned hard.

Jesus Christ, you guys all shop at the same Conservative Online Talking Points Store.
They don’t care about debating things on the merits. It’s part of their game.
[doublepost=1533569045][/doublepost]“Are you a communist?”
“No I am an anti-fascist”
“For a long time?”
“Since I have understood fascism.”

– Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls
 
Ummmm they just reported their quarterly earnings to investors since they are PUBLIC. Apple is a slave to Wall Street so no they absolutely cant just do whatever they want with everything.
Lol at all the people who don’t understand the difference between “public” and “publicly traded.” These are the same people dumb enough to believe Alex Jones’s conspiracy theories.

To clarify since apparently there’s a sizeable number of people who don’t understand the concept: Apple is a private company that is publicly traded, i.e. the public can buy shares. It is not a publicly owned company.
 
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Oh, you're bailing because all this time telling everyone they're hypocrites because they don't like Alex Jones and his ilk due to racism was you making an "honest, open" argument and most certainly not attacking people. And...not sure what Sarah Jeong has to do with ANY of this, but whatevs.

Yeah yeah, you didn't vote for Trump, don't like him, but darn it the libruls are so crazy with the hatred, they needed to be owned hard. Make sure their heads get all good and exploded!

Jesus Christ, you guys all shop at the same Conservative Online Talking Points Store.
Who are you responding to? I'm not "bailing." I never said I liked Alex Jones. I haven't been defending Trump (what does Trump have to do with liberal double standards?)

Jesus Christ, you guys all shop at the same Librul Online Talking Points Store.
 
More left wing companies removing freedom of speech
[doublepost=1533553428][/doublepost]Im sorry but now days hate speech is speaking out againt the main stream media, right wing youtubers dont always say hate they just speak the truth but are silenced by the left
____________________ Apple is a private company...owned by the stockholders, they are not subject to the first amendment...
 
“Alternative news” is hilarious to me. Almost as good as “alternative facts.”

The only thing that really hurts it is that some people are truly gullible enough to buy it. Virtually none of what Alex Jones says under the weakest logical examination.

Oh, yes, he’s just “playing a character.”

And again, you’re all gullible enough to buy it.

Jones is playing a character. But so is everyone in the news. Everyone knows the highly affected speaking style news reporters use when talking. They all sound the same. So Jones isn’t unique in playing a character. He is just playing a different one from the mass media character.

Why do you think what Jones says doesn’t stand up under logical examination? If you are referring to conspiracy theories he may present logic is of no help. Conspiracies aren’t illogical. They either exist or don’t exist. By their very nature they are difficult to prove. So a problem with Jones as I see it is that he makes a lot of wild claims without evidence. But they are the kind of claims for which there would be little evidence. You won’t get very far arguing about them. My attitude is to not believe things without evidence.

Also most people are fairly gullible. Most people are easily fooled. This isn’t limited to fans of Jones.
 
Who are you responding to? I'm not "bailing." I never said I liked Alex Jones. I haven't been defending Trump (what does Trump have to do with liberal double standards?)

Jesus Christ, you guys all shop at the same Librul Online Talking Points Store.
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Rush Limbaugh's hate radio podcasts are next.
 

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It's ok. You've resorted to personal attacks which means we've got nothing further to debate. And you have no idea who I voted for. It's ok for liberals like Sarah Jeong to say racist remarks against white males and that's acceptable to "libruls"...got it.
I know you won’t listen to this or care, but there’s a reason people don’t get as upset about “racist” comments directed toward whites:

A) the concept of biological race didn’t even exist until the 16th century. It was invented in Europe to justify oppression of “non-white” people
B) racism is therefore generally understood as a systemic form of oppression based on race. You would need to be delusional in order to think that white people are oppressed in America.
 
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The customers that wanted the wedding cake didn't say it was for a gay wedding. The baker specifically asked about sexual orientation, then refused service. That's discriminatory under Colorado state law, and the Supreme Court certainly didn't disagree with that.
Do you have more information on this? Did a google search but couldn’t find anything that said he asked about their sexual orientation before they said what the cake was for.
 
That isn’t the only thing they didn’t realize. The Catholic Chutch peddled the nonsense about a Gai-centric universe. Remember the Catholic Church didn’t even discuss and denied Copernicus’s theory of a heliocentric system. The American Left is becoming incredibly oppressive which is ironic. Liberals peddle tolerance but that tolerance appears to extend only to those who don’t disagree with fellow liberals. Any other opinion and belief is now considered “hate” speech. I can’t wait until political correctness dies. It is a cancer.
_______________ Oh please....this is not about the Roman Catholic Church....if the America Left is so oppressive....why is it that the entire Gov from the Trump House..US house, Senate & Supreme court are ALL TRUMP'S PEOPLE?
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Oh I'm sure. But rest assured there's NEVER any liberal biased content that may be construed as hate speech.
You are a "what about Trumpster..."
 
He wasn't libeled, he made his own bed. Aside from Sandy Hook he also parroted the fake story invented by a bored housewife about Comet Ping Pong and an underground child abuse ring. He had zero evidence to back up such nonsense and a guy with a gun showed up at the restaurant ready to kill people. Alex is dangerous.

Sure he was libeled if he did not actually say hate speech. It is like if Apple said they were removing him because he was a rapist. If Jones was in fact a rapist then that isn’t libel. But if he isn’t then it is. The hate speech claims seem to be false.

Jones himself is guilty of libel if he claimed a restaurant had an underground child sex ring and that was false. I’m surprised he wasn’t sued if it was a lie.

The solution to lies already exists with our libel laws.
 
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It's digital book burning. Sure, their platform and all, but that still doesn't change the fact they are absolutely digital book burners.

The intersection of Mao and Stalin rather than Arts and Humanities.
 
They don’t care about debating things on the merits. It’s part of their game.
[doublepost=1533569045][/doublepost]“Are you a communist?”
“No I am an anti-fascist”
“For a long time?”
“Since I have understood fascism.”

– Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls

Yes, and I'm also tired of having these conversations about supposed double standards when Conservatives don't feel the need to adhere to any standard.
 
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Sure he was libeled if he did not actually say hate speech. It is like if Apple said they were removing him because he was a rapist. If Jones was in fact a rapist then that isn’t libel. But if he isn’t then it is. The hate speech claims seem to be false.

Jones himself is guilty of libel if he claimed a restaurant had an underground child sex ring and that was false. I’m surprised he wasn’t sued if it was a lie.

The solution to lies already exists with our libel laws.

We will have to agree to disagree. Jones is famous for hate speech. It even got brought up in court where he lost custody of his children. Apple doesn't want to support someone known for hate speech on their platform and I can't blame them.
 
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