App Store is over 10 years old, how can it now be in violation of anti-trust law?
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Apple Removes Fortnite From App Store [Update: Epic Files Lawsuit Against Apple]
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They broke the house rules, I’m a small time developer and it’s clearly stated in the terms and conditions.
And what happens if an in-app purchase gose wrong, they have bypassed Apple safety net for customers who are now at the mercy of that company.
And what happens if an in-app purchase gose wrong, they have bypassed Apple safety net for customers who are now at the mercy of that company.
Want your own store, then build your own phone simple!
This is AMAZING. What an amazing strategy from Epic to not only go against Apple's greed, but also help other developers in the long run. Apple will have to change their policies, they want it or not.
that will be what the court has to decide. they are the worlds buggest company they decide wither your app will flourish or not by arbitrary rules
Except they are not. They may become if the government deems them illegal. But that has yet to happen. Also iOS isn't a monopoly, so anti-trust isn't going to cut it here either. They broke their agreement, thus Apple removed them. That's all, the end.
What to say that hasn't already be said? Nothing.
Say what you want about Apple's policies, but Epic obviously baited Apple into pulling the app by knowingly violating the App Store rules, and had the video animated and lawsuit drawn up ahead of time.
Say what you want about Apple's policies, but Epic obviously baited Apple into pulling the app by knowingly violating the App Store rules, and had the video animated and lawsuit drawn up ahead of time.
Their argument that the user "saves 20%" may be true -- but Fortnite profits from the 10% margin that they would have paid to Apple. They can lose players and STILL come out ahead. Nevertheless -- I think this is just a PR move to rile up players for the "new season" to be released soon.
Exactly, Apple mafia-style monopoly and anti-competitive policy NEEDS TO END!
Apple should be entitled to a one time fee for people to buy-download an app.
But if you are selling a service, (like online tutoring), why should Apple be entitled to 30% of the business???
That is a complete mafia-style policy, especially when you consider that the only alternative is Google that also charge the same.
It is great that Epic is suing Apple, so they end this thir party developers complete nonsense rip-off.
Isn't there a cost to hosting all those apps, distributing them on the fastest data pipes, spending R&D to create better development tools as well as the marketing and all else needed to have a thriving installed base? Thats at least 15% they need to charge to recoup that. You also have to take account the obligatory Apple tax. Thats another 10%. And because you have a problem with it and all the other App ecosystems are lame, theres your extra 5%. I award Epic no points. And it deserves what it gets. They are free to make their own devices. The 30% is probably to discourage the biggest companies from creating entire businesses on Apples platform. Because the more of those that exist the more power they have over Apple to force them to go into directions they do not want to go towards. They already had that problem with microsoft and adobe, and you see how that turned out. By making money hand over fist on the iPad they reduce the income hit they could have if a huge enough player pulls out of their App store trying to strong arm Apple. That has happened in the past with the Mac and this time, if Apple will go through that again they will look at how much money they made from whoever does that and shrug and move on.
Bingo.
Epic made a big deal about Steam and basically stole some of their business by not 'double dipping' on Unreal engine licensees if they listed their games in the Epic Launcher Store. So basically developers cut out the middle man of Steam and pocket more of the profits. Which was a smart business move, because the engine costs 5% of revenues over $1 million and Valve took their usual store cut per-purchase, just like Apple does.
The fact that consumers pay more money for a product or service does not create a per se violation of antitrust law.
Educate yourself before posting.
They are not the world biggest mobile OS Android is, so if you app flourish on android then apples App Store rules are irrelevant
Because it has acquired a key position in a multi-billion dollar marketplace. A startup that becomes a monopoly is still a monopoly even if it had humble roots.
Ultimately I can see both Apple and Google being ordered to provide access to their respective app stores on a cost plus basis (i.e. Apple's cost of the service provision plus a fair profit margin).
I think Apple (and Google) toughed it out at 30% for just a bit too long, this kind of challenge was bound to happen when such a large slice of revenue is going their way. If they had done, say, a sliding % scale so that the big players paid less, they might not have had a big player suing them and the little guys would never have dared.
Most kids get their iPhones and iPads from their parents, Apple for years has built in parental controls into those devices, it is up to the parents to do some parenting and enable those controls on the devices before they give them to the kids to play with, these devices have been around long enough and there have been so many stories in the press over they years about kids running up bills on games that very few parents are unaware of the issue, also it is up to parents to bring up their kids in a way that the kids knows it is unaaceptable to borrow mom or dads credit cards to buy things they want. and btw you would be surpised how many 40 and 50 year olds play games like Fortnite.
MaybeApple,should remove the free tier of apps, and make the minimum app purchase price £4.99?
No one would be forcing you to use the hypothetical iOS Epic Games Store. They just want a chance to compete.
Do I own my phone? Yes or no?
So Apple have banned the fortnight. We’ll just have to go back to calling it two weeks.
Epic greedy? How about Apple getting 30% of your business monopoly style?
That is despicable.
Now would be a good day for #PUBG to get promoted on the AppStore. 😏
EpicGames ambushed Apple with malicious intent. It was a clear setup to sue them. They had a 60 page lawsuit ready even before Apple took them down. This has nothing to do with customers. They want to keep that money, not pass it on to customers.
EpicGames ambushed Apple with malicious intent. It was a clear setup to sue them. They had a 60 page lawsuit ready even before Apple took them down. This has nothing to do with customers. They want to keep that money, not pass it on to customers.
Epic from Epic. Hope they seriously damage Cupertino. 👊
they are when taking how much they make vs android iinto account. app store vs google play revene is what i mean. android has more physical devices but the app store makes more money for apple per device than google does per android device
Apple gave in to DHH whining/tweeting about HEY. Cue massive publicity and interest in mediocre mail service.
Other developers watched that drama and formulated their plans.
Every move is calculated.
Other developers watched that drama and formulated their plans.
Every move is calculated.
How is it a problem if the consumer knows the limits of the product they buy?
It seems like developers want to take advantage of apples platform but don't want to pay for it.
