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They are acting like trump supporters are dangerous people are they forgetting Kamala telling the rioters at blm to carry on and all summer liberals spread hatred also on Twitter when trump had covid they all said hope he died, when joe Biden won not one trump supporter started anything at any rallies nothing at all just good people loving their country it was only a few idiots the other day which isn’t trumps fault and how dare they act like it’s dangerous for trump to speak, he didn’t tell anyone to do this he is all about law and order, facebook and twitter is full of radical lefties that helped cause a summer of rage and nothing was done, I’m sick of this and I will still love and use apple products but the company can do one, they are just as bad as all the elites
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Unless you have enough intellect to understand that free speech applies to the government censoring you.
Sweet. So you'd be totally fine with YouTube eradicating gays from their platform? I'm sure you'd point out to any complainer that YouTube is a private company, not the government, right?
 
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Have you? Have you lived in a city where riots of thousands of people are happening right in front of your streets, burning and looting? I have, in my country. The government put out requests to Facebook and other social media outlets to limit/ban certain accounts inciting the violence and spreading hoaxes, but they got practically ignored. So the government ending up pulling the plug on Facebook/Whatsapp/etc for a day to curtail the violence.

This action definitely set a precedent. Other countries are watching.
Congrats, you hit on all the false right wing talking points.

The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials.
 
Seems like a dangerous precedent. Something tells me the coming week is going to be filled with stories of both sides building a mountain of evidence pointing towards this sort of abuse occurring on all social media apps, from Facebook to Twitter and Reddit.
The lawsuits can’t be far behind.
Dropping Parler completely feels like the nuclear option at a time when attitudes are running hot and patience running thin. This isn’t going to end well for anyone.
 
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Just like the lovely folks who showed up on Capitol Hill this week :)

Perhaps you do not, but I hold our politicians to a higher standard than I do some thug morons. I don’t expect those people to be concerned with creating unity, and peace... but the Democratic leadership should be concerned with it.
 
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What is your point though? Let people vent. Let them have their fifteen minutes to complain, and then move on. Democrats challenged G.W. Bush’s first election in court, and lost. They never accepted it. To this day I still occasionally see the “Elect Al Gore... Again” bumper stickers. Democrats didn’t accept his re-election four years later. They didn’t accept when Trump won four years ago. So what’s your point exactly? There are people on every single election that dispute the outcome. Without exception.
And does it not bother you that your Democrats, now that they are going to be in the uncommon position of controlling the House, Senate, and Presidency.. are not interested in planning their agendas and moving the country forward? They would rather waste their energy in a guy that won’t even be in the picture in two weeks. That should tell you a lot. News flash to them: the country is very divided right now. Maybe the smarter thing would be to try to unite it... by moving forward, laying out their agenda, and telling us what they plan to do. A pointless fight like they are doing will not heal the country.
"What is your point though"

My point is, its been proven, so anything beyond that is misinformation or lies.

"Let them have their 15 minutes"

They have had almost 2 months and 60 court cases.

"Your democrats"

I'm not a democrat.

"Maybe the smarter thing would be to try to unite it"

What let people get away with inciting this crap for months and months on end - culminating in violence. No. They need to be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law and political spectrum to send a clear message that none of this behavior is ok - then yes, move forward.
 
What is your point though? Let people vent. Let them have their fifteen minutes to complain, and then move on. Democrats challenged G.W. Bush’s first election in court, and lost. They never accepted it. To this day I still occasionally see the “Elect Al Gore... Again” bumper stickers. Democrats didn’t accept his re-election four years later. They didn’t accept when Trump won four years ago. So what’s your point exactly? There are people on every single election that dispute the outcome. Without exception.
And does it not bother you that your Democrats, now that they are going to be in the uncommon position of controlling the House, Senate, and Presidency.. are not interested in planning their agendas and moving the country forward? They would rather waste their energy in a guy that won’t even be in the picture in two weeks. That should tell you a lot. News flash to them: the country is very divided right now. Maybe the smarter thing would be to try to unite it... by moving forward, laying out their agenda, and telling us what they plan to do. A pointless fight like they are doing will not heal the country.
I was disappointed that Gore lost; I did accept it. I was incredulous that Clinton lost; I accepted it. In both scenarios, Democrats followed legal courses of action to challenge it and, when they lost, accepted the results.

That is not at ALL what Republicans are doing. They can vent. They can have 15 minutes to complain. They can have 4 years to complain. They can (and did) follow legal courses of action to challenge the results. They lost.

Why are you telling Democrats to move on (and forgive sedition and the incitement of violence), but not asking Republicans to move on and accept the results of the election?
 
I wonder why it took this long to finally start banning extremist social media accounts and services? This type of thing has been going on for a while now, yet the bans are happening at a feverish rate right now.

I read a tweet the other day suggesting that because the Dems are now in control of both the presidency and Congress, that they are more inclined to start taking action because of fear of antitrust regulation.

I can't believe it has come to this. That the reason that these companies are finally taking action is because of the threat of regulation nipping at their heels...whatever happened to showing some backbone and courage and taking a stance, morality and ethics-wise and just banning every account, regardless of influence and power, off the platform?

In this way, I feel that the baby-boom generation and generations prior were better in this regard. If they saw or heard or read something that was immoral or unethical, they spoke up and made their voices heard, regardless of the situation (the Pentagon Papers and Watergate are the 2 most recent examples that jump to mind.)

I just don't understand American culture anymore. Everyone, or at least everyone in power, it seems, is looking after their own self-interest and self-preservation, instead of standing up for the ethical and moral stuff!

Maybe I have been blinded by naiveté and it has always been like this? I don't know, but it saddens me that the only reason these huge corporations are finally clamping down is because of the political climate and not because of ethical or moral reasons...
 
Sweet. So you'd be totally fine with YouTube eradicating gays from their platform? I'm sure you'd point out to any complainer that YouTube is a private company, not the government, right?
LOL I am gay, and I can tell you that our Gay Agenda doesn’t include sedition, insurrection, or anything that would necessitate the banning of LGBT people.
 
This is not even close to the same thing. Apple removing an app that doesn’t meet App Store guidelines is not the same as the Supreme Court rubber-stamping discrimination against LGBT Americans.

Argue better.
LOL. It's not the same because you're totally cool with one of those actions and not the other. Got it.

So it's ok as long as YouTube adjusts their TOS to say no gays?
 
Oh yeah blm burning cities down with antifa and looting TVs is doing it for racial equality lol all this over a policeman killing a man that there’s no prove it was my because he was black, it’s always a race issue when it’s white on black there was no prove it was race related the policeman was a bad man and deserved to be done for murder but blm don’t care about it they burnt black businesses are many black people don’t support the Marxist group
I do remember a video of someone who got his apartment window smashed by a rock was yelling to the crowd 'i'm on your side i'm on your side' they kept throwing rocks at his building. It didn't matter he was sympathetic to their cause. That was big wakeup for me. Maybe they meant well but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
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LOL I am gay, and I can tell you that our Gay Agenda doesn’t include sedition, insurrection, or anything that would necessitate the banning of LGBT people.
And anyone that won't make you a cake and hides behind a book to justify it, is a douche in my book.

But the argument is the same for both, private entity choosing to do business with whomever they want. It's bs in both cases IMO.
 
LOL. It's not the same because you're totally cool with one of those actions and not the other. Got it.

So it's ok as long as YouTube adjusts their TOS to say no gays?
No it’s not the same because Apple as a company has a right to set terms of service and remove apps that violate them. Being gay isn’t a violation of YouTube’s TOS, and there is no reason that they would ever do that. Your hypothetical straw man arguments expose you’re stunted ability to reason.
 
Well, if you support Trump taking over as a dictator, why would you care about rights? There are no rights under a dictatorship.
It is not surprising that someone who is willing to give away their rights has no concept of what a dictatorship is.

If you live in a simplistic delusion of politics as heroes vs. villains, rest assured, you have been tricked by the villains.
 
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Seems like a dangerous precedent. Something tells me the coming week is going to be filled with stories of both sides building a mountain of evidence pointing towards this sort of abuse occurring on all social media apps, from Facebook to Twitter and Reddit.
The lawsuits can’t be far behind.
Dropping Parler completely feels like the nuclear option at a time when attitudes are running hot and patience running thin. This isn’t going to end well for anyone.
Social media was wrong in the same place...it started out innocently enough, but when Russia and other extremist groups were able to leverage it for their own gain, that is when it all went south.

Ideally, the only way to contain social media would be to come up with an AI that is intelligent enough to ban accounts and posts that have these extremist views automatically. But we aren't there yet and I don't think we will ever get there (kinda like self-driving cars - in theory, a great idea, but in practice, ALOT harder to execute.) The last 1% is the kicker....the edge cases/gray areas are the ones where the AI can't execute on and this is where the extremist groups are taking advantage of....
 
Where do you get that nonsense from?
He said Apple was ok, because they banned an app for violating the App Store guidelines. So it's purely a guidelines thing. Make your TOS whatever you want, and you're all good.
 
And anyone that won't make you a cake and hides behind a book to justify it, is a douche.

But the argument is the same for both, private entity choosing to do business with whomever they want. It's bs in both cases IMO.
I mean, it's really not. You seem to be worked up by the fact that they banned an app. It's not like the internet suddenly stopped working. You can still type www.parler.com into Safari. Nothing is preventing anyone from doing that.
 
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