Apple Removes Parler From App Store Due to 'Inadequate' Measures to Address Dangerous Content

[Kylo83]

You do know the so called rioters at the capital was let in they didn’t break in that was antifa and they had selfies with police and when they were told to go they walked out nothing was bad how can they say this was the worst day compared to a summer of Marxist riots where people died and cities burnt down

 

[mcdawg]

I support this move but there are inconsistencies in application of Apple's actions in cases like this. Will Apple remove iMessage and Safari? Both allow for the proliferation of threats to people's safety. One could even argue using Apple's rationale that some agency needs to be able to moderate iMessages (e.g., a backdoor into the encryption). That would be unacceptable but is essentially the argument a number of governments and law enforcement agencies make.

Again, Apple is well within their rights to do this and I support this removal.

Oh my goodness.

Totalitarian much?

What is wrong with you people?

Sick.

 

[Nicky G]

The only fascists are the ones blocking free speech, anyone supporting censorship is out of order and wrong

Quick civics lesson, cuz it doesn't sound like you actually know very much about "free speech."

The first Amendment guarantees that the government, in most circumstances, can't stop you from saying what you want, in public.

Freedom of personal property, a defining aspect of the United States -- you know, the thing that makes us not-Commies -- allows people to control their own private property. The App Store is Apple's private property, and if they want to ban white power neo nazi apps -- the group Parler was literally built for and to make money off of -- they can do it to their heart's content.

These "conservatives" and their lack of understanding of so-called "conservative values." Do they want to preserve private property laws or not, I can't tell. Oh that's right, only when it supports their views. Typical for these hypocrites.

 

[movieator]

What have I said which is wrong because it’s all facts but the left can’t deal with facts can they

Ad-hominem.

That being said, maybe instead of using said ad-hominem and, say, lamenting the overuse of the word "nazi" or the phrase "white supremacist", conservatives such as yourself could have a come to Jesus moment and actually acknowledge and weed out the indisputable and verifiable Nazis and white supremacists (there's photos and videos and proclamations, oh my!) living in their party's grass, and not turning a blind eye to them and the party leadership that tacitly courts them.

Until then, though, please, tell me about “facts”.

 

[Kylo83]

All this is just to ban trump from having a voice, America is becoming a Communist country

 

[eatrains]

We can still use the web site so they can’t silence them, this is an attack on freedom of speech and to ban all conservative voices

You don't have the freedom to advocate and orchestrate violence, especially on a private platform. The fact that you equate advocating and orchestrating violence with "all conservative voices" sounds like a personal problem.

 

[Nicky G]

You do know the so called rioters at the capital was let in they didn’t break in that was antifa and they had selfies with police and when they were told to go they walked out nothing was bad how can they say this was the worst day compared to a summer of Marxist riots where people died and cities burnt down

I guess when Parler gets banned from the App Store, they come to Macrumors. Oy veh.

 

[Kylo83]

Quick civics lesson, cuz it doesn't sound like you actually know very much about "free speech."

The first Amendment guarantees that the government, in most circumstances, can't stop you from saying what you want, in public.

Freedom of personal property, a defining aspect of the United States -- you know, the thing that makes us not-Commies -- allows people to control their own private property. The App Store is Apple's private property, and if they want to ban white power neo nazi apps -- the group Parler was literally built for and to make money off of -- they can do it to their heart's content.

These "conservatives" and their lack of understanding of so-called "conservative values." Do they want to preserve private property laws or not, I can't tell. Oh that's right, only when it supports their views. Typical for these hypocrites.

Conservatives don’t promote hate or wanna ban anyone’s speech that’s the left, why is it they put wood on shops when the result was coming becuase they knew if trump won the left would riot but as he didn’t nothing happened

 

[Dozer_Zaibatsu]

But. Will they ban, say, Signal? 🤔

 

[Kylo83]

You don't have the freedom to advocate and orchestrate violence, especially on a private platform. The fact that you equate advocating and orchestrating violence with "all conservative voices" sounds like a personal problem.

A few small group of people done something bad which we all agree it’s not the majority but the democrats have millions burning down cities and using Twitter to spread hate

 

[NashMan2]

Good!

 

[movieator]

You don't have the freedom to advocate and orchestrate violence, especially on a private platform. The fact that you equate advocating and orchestrating violence with "all conservative voices" sounds like a personal problem.

You do realize you might as well be arguing with mustard.

 

[Nicky G]

All this is just to ban trump from having a voice, America is becoming a Communist country

I dare you to define "communism" in your own words. Now. In a sentence, a paragraph, I don't care. But I don't think you actually know what it means.

"Communism" means that there is no private property, and the government owns everything (mostly). In Communist China, if the Communist Party wants a company to do something specific with their own platform, the company has to do it, because the Communists are in control of everything.

If you want to deprive Apple of the right to control their own property, the App Store, it sounds lik eyou want the USA to be MORE communist, not less.

Oh, civics lessons for the civically-disinclined... Well, or Russian troll farm accounts.

 

[Kylo83]

Anyone on this forum that thinks censorship is good needs to re think 🤔 there’s no talking respectfully to a lefties so im out as there’s way to many on this forum

 

[eatrains]

A few small group of people done something bad which we all agree it’s not the majority but the democrats have millions burning down cities and using Twitter to spread hate

If that small group did something bad, why are you opposed to preventing them from planning such a thing?

 

[2499723]

This is adorable.

Looking at that sea of seditionists storming the capitol, I felt a little sickened by all the iPhones in the air. It’s totally irrational, but I was like ‘man, even my tech of choice has been co-opted by the fascists - kind of like the American flag.’ Still, I’ll be able to access Twitter using my iPhone and the president won’t. 😚

 

[pkahleeb]

For all of you in favor of banning a platform that is designed to deliver free speech, the time will soon come when your voice will be suppressed and nobody will be around to hear your cries for help.

The true answer to countering free speech is with more free speech. If you don’t like what they have to say, you don’t have to listen.

 

[Nicky G]

You don't have the freedom to advocate and orchestrate violence, especially on a private platform. The fact that you equate advocating and orchestrating violence with "all conservative voices" sounds like a personal problem.

A personal problem affecting tens of millions of Americans who are in a state of literal mind control in the Trump Cult. Wait until the illusion starts to break, and these people realize they gave up their minds and souls for a crappy con artist. It's going to be... ugly.

 

[panjandrum]

Well when Twitter is seeing “Hang Mike Pence” trending why wouldn’t Twitter self police and ban those accounts as well?

They certainly should ban those accounts. And, you DO realize the persons you might have seen calling for the death of Pence were a group of the Coup Klux Klan rioters, don't you?

I expect Pence is deeply regretting the four years he spent worshiping at Trump's altar. Absolute loyalty is the demand of the feeble-ego totalitarian and the duty of the feeble-minded sycophants who follow him or her. Don't dare step of out line, as Pence has finally learned.

 

[Kylo83]

If that small group did something bad, why are you opposed to preventing them from planning such a thing?

Why don’t they ban twitter and Facebook then? The blm riots all summer was promoted on there, you can’t shut a whole platform because of some fools, like I said time and time again it wasn’t the majority it was a few small group including democrats; it was set up they was allowed to walk in

 

[jjudson]

Good.

This is wrong no matter what your politics. The guarantee of free speech in the First Amendment isn't about speech you agree with, it's about the ability for others you don't agree with to speak. You aren't required to agree with what they say. And labeling opposition speech across the board as "hateful" is a straw dog. Also, the idea that these platforms are private doesn't wash when they hold a near-monopoly on communications (especially when they collaborate like Twitter, Apple, Google, and Facebook have done).

This is a very creepy place we are going into. The next step down the road is internet restriction and monitoring like has been done in China. And don't think for a moment if your politics are on the "good" side they won't come for you next. There were many in the French Revolution who thought the Jacobins would never come after them -- but after they ran out of their real enemies, they did.

Regardless how you feel about Trump, this is a scary place we're headed...

 

[Nicky G]

For all of you in favor of banning a platform that is designed to deliver free speech, the time will soon come when your voice will be suppressed and nobody will be around to hear your cries for help.

The true answer to countering free speech is with more free speech. If you don’t like what they have to say, you don’t have to listen.

When "they" (your compatriots I presume?) attempt a violent coup and overthrow of American democracy because they can't get over the fact that they lost an election, you know -- I start to listen. And then I act.

 

[Kylo83]

If that small group did something bad, why are you opposed to preventing them from planning such a thing?

If Parler spreads hate so much why has there been no riots or anything from trump supporters in the 4 years and why when he lost did nothing happen and this was a one off which was bad, with the same logic your using they should ban twitter because it spread a lot of blm lies and hate that caused a summer of hell

 

[Jensend]

Well when Twitter is seeing “Hang Mike Pence” trending why wouldn’t Twitter self police and ban those accounts as well?

Wasn’t that mostly tweets reporting about Trump supporters using that phrase?

 

[hagjohn]

We can still use the web site so they can’t silence them, this is an attack on freedom of speech and to ban all conservative voices

Try learning what "Freedom of Speech" is. Maybe people will take you more seriously.