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I have made to believe that any iPhone purchased from Apple at full price is unlocked. Always confused about this though as this seems to be a North American issue.
Carrier-locked phones (mostly?) disappeared in Australia after it became mandatory for all carriers to unlock free-of-charge on request once contract periods had ended, or if the user was going somewhere the carrier didn't have coverage. If you enter into a contract that subsidises the phone price, it's enforceable anyway so there's no need to lock the phone from the outset.
 
This does remind me..

I find it funny about those complaining about going to eSIMs that there wasn't this problem when they were buying phones for Sprint or even Verizon at the time when they had Software SIMs in their versions of the iPhone, especially as they were locked to their CDMA only network. No issues with software-based sims then, but all of a sudden it's a problem now.

BL.

We were on AT&T precisely for GSM support. Never even considered Verizon until the FCC mandate for unlocked devices due to their spectrum purchase.
 
Different models/different SKUs. It doesn't mean that they are using the same model and leaving it empty. In fact, with going eSIM, they can reclaim that space for something more.

BL.
But.... my point is that there are no features in the USA models that aren't present in other models, which would suggest the reclaimed space is going unused? Or did I miss something?
 
Ok, so for those US based iphone users who want simcard slot, where should we buy the iPhone 14 from? Canada? Beside having simcard slot, what will be the difference with US iPhone 14? Do canada iPhone 14 have mmwave? I definitely considering a roadtrip to get 14 pro with simcard slot since I will need it if I go to Indonesia (my home country) or China (Wife's home country). I will not be happy paying 13-15% for sales tax vs no sales tax here going to DE but it is what it is.

Some also mentions about HK iPhone having 2 nano sim card slot, do they have any e-sim capability?

Btw, any singapore user here can chime in if their iPhone has any difference as well? I may consider buying from singapore too when I'll go there this december.
Well, if you're Indonesian, you better buy the officially local release of iPhone in Indonesia unless you want to deal with paying import taxes and the IMEI whitelisting registration.

Hong Kong iPhone only have 2 physical nano SIM slot, no eSIM support at all.

Singapore (and Indonesia) will have the standard nano + eSIM configuration.
 
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Warranty isn’t an issue. Apple always honor the warranty on their devices regardless the place of purchase. mmWave is missing though.
Except for Indonesia. The local conglomerates that got a deal with Apple in securing the local iPhone authorized distribution channel managed to also monopolized the warranty service. So foreign bought iPhones warranty won't be honored by these bozos. Luckily, a separate company (QCD from Singapore) opened up shop in Jakarta to service non-local iPhones.
 
My company-issued iPhone just got bricked by a carrier APN update, how do I transfer my eSIM over to a new handset? Authorisation on the account with the carrier is held by our finance department, and it's 5.30pm on a Friday. And I can't call the carrier anyway because did I mention my phone is broken? And I just tested positive for Covid so I can't go to a retail location.
This ludicrous sounding situation is basically what happened to me earlier this year, except I had a physical SIM I could swap into an old phone.
 
Not at all. In fact, Apple has eSIM transfer available (in iOS 15) where you can easily transfer your existing line from your old phone to your new one. They just have to be on the same AppleID, and your carrier has to support it... AT&T does for one.

Note this means that you don't even have to call the carrier or go into a store. Try that with a physical SIM.
Well.... with a physical SIM, you just take it out and put it into the new phone... :D In this situation, it's easier with physical SIM.
 
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For those considering the Hong Kong, Dual nano-sim model, keep in mind that it’s the only model to NOT support satellite emergency connectivity. It will not work with satellite services in the US or Canada or worldwide when it’s rolled out in the future.

So no perfect iPhone 14 model exists:
  1. US models: No nano sim but offers mmWave and satellite connectivity.
  2. International: Single Nano-sim but offers no mmWave support and does offer satellite connectivity.
  3. Hong Kong: Dual nano-sim but no mmWave and no satellite connectivity. Also, some China/HK models don’t support eSim.
Pick your poison…
We never had satellite connectivity on our phones for... decades, and we survived. So I don't think that's a crucial feature for many. The lack of mmWave might be more concerning for those that have coverage for it.
 
but why though ? I don't get it.
Short answer? Because Apple just doesn't like that slot hole... :D It ruins Apple's aesthetics.

Long speculative answer? It might be a prequel to Apple's providing their own cellular service in the future. Everything end to end is controlled via one single Apple One subscription. Even the phone itself might be included, as we have had rumors about iPhone subscription program already.
 
I have made to believe that any iPhone purchased from Apple at full price is unlocked. Always confused about this though as this seems to be a North American issue.

Correct, except that if you buy one of the iphones that come with a carrier SIM instead of an unlocked sim free iphone it won’t be unlocked out of the box, you’ll have to request the unlock from the carrier, which they will do immediately if you did pay full price for the phone.
 
That's iffy if one needs to contact local cellphones.

Whenever we visit the Philippines, we actually get 2 SIMs (Smart & Globe) both for coverage and to take advantage of promos (unlimited calls/high minute allotment for Smart-to-Smart or Globe-to-Globe) when contacting friends and family.

We have an iPhone 11 that's been acting up after 15.6.1 update. After watching the keynote, I promptly ordered the iPhone 13 instead of waiting for iPhone 14 pre-orders.
At least you guys don't have your government restricting foreign phones, soyou can just buy the Hong Kong version and enjoy dual nano SIM.

Us in Indonesia, we're stuck with the locally released version as the government imposed IMEI whitelisting so foreign bough phones cannot be used with the local carriers (unless you pay import tax and register the IMEI).
 
I think we should file a lawsuit, this is complete garbage. Some palms got greased and now we have to pay for service swaps that used to be free. If there is a CA suit, I'm so in.
The first Moto RAZR foldable didn't come with a SIM slot either, it was eSIM only (and worse it's Verizon only), yet nobody blinked.
 
This does remind me..

I find it funny about those complaining about going to eSIMs that there wasn't this problem when they were buying phones for Sprint or even Verizon at the time when they had Software SIMs in their versions of the iPhone, especially as they were locked to their CDMA only network. No issues with software-based sims then, but all of a sudden it's a problem now.

BL.
Who said it wasn't a problem back then? People just aren't complaining about it on this thread because we got over it a decade ago when CDMA went away and we were finally all able to just swap SIM cards...
 
Sucks now, but better in the future. Let's just hope carriers around the world, especially developing countries, keep up to date and actually update their eSIMs.

When I lost my phone in the ocean, it was such a hassle to get a new sim card. Have to physically drive to the store, give a lot of IDs and stuff, then get approval, then get the SIM card. But wait, it needs to "communicate with the servers" and I have to wait 24 hours for it.

With eSIM, I don't have to travel to get a physical SIM. I just need to place a call - or even just use an app, and it'll all be sorted out easier.

Supporting Apple's move on this. Pain point will be travelling, but only for a year, then most probably everyone would've followed suit.
 
Who said it wasn't a problem back then? People just aren't complaining about it on this thread because we got over it a decade ago when CDMA went away and we were finally all able to just swap SIM cards...
It's worse with CDMA, as it's carrier specific and not portable. At least with eSIM, the technology itself actually allows portability, and even converting back to physical SIM.
 
Sucks now, but better in the future. Let's just hope carriers around the world, especially developing countries, keep up to date and actually update their eSIMs.

When I lost my phone in the ocean, it was such a hassle to get a new sim card. Have to physically drive to the store, give a lot of IDs and stuff, then get approval, then get the SIM card. But wait, it needs to "communicate with the servers" and I have to wait 24 hours for it.

With eSIM, I don't have to travel to get a physical SIM. I just need to place a call - or even just use an app, and it'll all be sorted out easier.

Supporting Apple's move on this. Pain point will be travelling, but only for a year, then most probably everyone would've followed suit.
eSIM has a lot of potential to be even more user friendly than physical SIM. It's the carriers that are just plain lazy, and put a lot of hassles that actually is not part of the tech. It as if these carriers have their own agenda on profiting from physical SIM, to the point that they made people's life harder on eSIM.
 
Excellent shot in the foot. Apple foot. The anti pro foot. Now upon landing in Chad, Chile and anywhere for that matter, we first go online while paying those “great” US providers fees now to find a local e-sim deal. Yeah, right. Cook cooked all of us an embarrassing surprise. Thank you! So immediately rushed to the Apple site to go ahead and order a 13 pro, and guess what? They all vanished, no more. In Europe one will have to pay roughly another $500 (14pro 6.1, 1TB) for the slot.
 

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I have a feeling what they mean by US models is the locked models with US carriers. To switch sims or use internationally you need an unlocked phone, which most likely will have the sim tray.
 
I have a feeling what they mean by US models is the locked models with US carriers. To switch sims or use internationally you need an unlocked phone, which most likely will have the sim tray.
I doubt it. All US models will be eSIM only, unlocked or not.
 
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