Apple Renews Motion Calling for U.S. Ban on Samsung Products

[jkichline]

It has nothing to do with monopolies

Apple is not doing themselves any good with this BS. I don't own a smartphone, but if I did it would be a Samsung. I don't like monopolies.

It has nothing to do with monopolies and everything to do with Samsung stealing intellectual property and brazenly continuing. It has to do with Samsung using standard essential patents to try to sue Apple into oblivion instead of allowing fair competition. Apple has patented key computing technology and everyone else thinks they have the right to it which is ridiculous. Apple should protect it's intellectual property because that's what they make.

I think Apple is well within their rights to protect their property after Microsoft pulled the same thing about 25 years ago. Since then, intellectual property law has become more clear and Apple is using that to it's fullest extent which is what they need to be doing.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Well, personally, I don't buy Samsung products. I consider it immoral (for those who should know better). They blatantly copy other people's products, not just Apple's. Portions of their company are legit, but large portions aren't.

On a funnier note...:

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What about all of the Samsung components used in Apple products?

 

[Consultant]

Seems that many of you don't create any products.

Go spend time and money creating something, and see how you feel when someone copies it.

There's less incentive to innovate if the competitor can just rip off years of your R&D.

But you do like thieves? Interesting.

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Exactly.

 

[Abraxsis]

Well, personally, I don't buy Samsung products. I consider it immoral (for those who should know better). They blatantly copy other people's products, not just Apple's. Portions of their company are legit, but large portions aren't.

On a funnier note...:

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The only reason Apple is snapping at Samsung is that Samsung takes the "spirit" of iPhone and completely and utterly trounces all over it with a better product. While I might continue to use a Mac, you won't ever find me using another iPhone with it's dated, over-priced, technology (immoral or not).

Besides, if you really believed what you state then you wouldn't support Apple either. It is pretty much on-the-record that Apple has infringed multiple times in their rise to stardom. Further, Apple "new amazing addition" for the newest iPhone is a fingerprint reader? My Motorola Atrix 4G had that YEARS ago, but Im sure Apple didn't copy off them at all.

 

[jkichline]

If they copied...

Here we go again. Seriously apple you won already.
Just like Samsung copied things from apple. Apple copied things from other manufacturs. They all do it.

If Apple copied something, then Samsung is more than welcome to take Apple to court over it. They have tried this and failed in most markets because they used standard essential patents which cannot be used the way they were using them.

So let the courts decide.

 

[titanz91]

Well, personally, I don't buy Samsung products. I consider it immoral (for those who should know better). They blatantly copy other people's products, not just Apple's. Portions of their company are legit, but large portions aren't.

On a funnier note...:

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Oh, and Apple never participates/participated in questionable actions? Don't make me laugh. They've copied plenty (Xerox, Android (Google), Microsoft) of others.

 

[roasted]

Nothing by Apple surprises me any longer.

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Well, personally, I don't buy Samsung products. I consider it immoral (for those who should know better). They blatantly copy other people's products, not just Apple's. Portions of their company are legit, but large portions aren't.

On a funnier note...:

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ROFL.

 

[HenryDJP]

I know there is a lot at stake but I wish but Apple and Samsung would get over this and just make better products!

You need to cut Apple's name out of your post. It's Samsung that needs to make better products using ideas of their own and just laying Apple's phones on a Xerox copy machine and slapping the Sammy name on them.

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Move along, nothing to see here. Apple-get over it and start innovating!

Your talking as if it's a personal matter. Do you know anything about business?

 

[isepic]

Actually, Apple often repackages other people's tech.

MacOS = Xerox (they stole it)
iTunes = SoundJam (they bought it)
MacOSX = NeXT (they bought it)
MultiTouch stuff = Fingerworks (they bought it)

In Apple's early days, they were stealing along with making their own stuff. Now they buy and make their own stuff.

Everyone seems to have a mix of genuinely their own ideas and picking up other people's ideas and making them their own.

You have missed a few things, and have a few inaccurate.
MacOS = Xerox (they got permission first, and later compensated Xerox for it, and on top of that they didn't reverse engineer it, they took the basic concepts and Apple invented the architecture that is now used by most modern computers)
Android = Google bought it (2005, tweaked it, released 2007)
Android = Samsung copies it (for free) from google
TouchWiz = Samsung original product, layered onto Android

 

[Konrad9]

But you do like thieves? Interesting.

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As we all know, Apple has never borrowed or stolen ANYTHING in its entire history.

Not one single line of code or idea.

Ever.

 

[anubis72]

Apple is not doing themselves any good with this BS. I don't own a smartphone, but if I did it would be a Samsung. I don't like monopolies.

What monopoly?

 

[mbh]

Move along, nothing to see here. Apple-get over it and start innovating!

Yeah! Apple's legal department still needs to design and manufacture an updated Thunderbolt display! C'mon, lawyers, get out of the courtroom and back to your drafting boards.

 

[RichardI]

Any patent that's capable of something as sweeping as banning sale of Samsung's products in the US should be invalidated. Most of these software patents never should have been awarded in the first place, and have become a legal cluster**** that's out of control.

Correct. The fault lies in the patents being allowed in the first place.
Apple:
"Uh, I want to patent a phone that is rectangular in shape, has a rectangular touchscreen and an Apple logo and you can make phone calls on it."
Patent office:
"duh OK."

 

[chakraj]

But you do like thieves? Interesting.

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I see what you did there, you are pointing out how apple stole the whole "store" idea. Blatant thieves, I have been in many "stores" products on the shelves, all arranged to make them look nice, apple are such rip off artists, why couldnt they come up with something new, instead of ripping of the whole "store" idea. Thieves and crooks, Oh I mean tim Cook. Sorry.

 

[iChrist]

When you can't innovate, litigate. Right, Apple?

 

[HeHeHaha123]

Lawyer email

If you look at the lawyers email its name@mofo.com

Which I think is kind of funny especially for a law firm.

Did Morrison & Foersters do this on purpose, or was this an accident??

 

[LordVic]

When you can't innovate, litigate. Right, Apple?

Greats stand on the shoulders of eachother to reach new heights. others just cut the heads off the others to make themselves appear taller.

 

[DaveN]

Yep. Blatant copying. Aaaaand...

I don't care. I am happy with my S4, simply because it gives me what Apple refuses to:

-A bigger screen
-Customization
-Freedom from iOS 7's look
-A seriously bigger screen

I waited and waited until finally gave me no choice (pun intended). It's looking like the divorce is going to be final...

That said, Apple is right for defending its IPs, as would any other company. It just doesn't affect me directly, so, I just move along.

So if someone steals your S4 and sells it to me it is ok. It wouldn't affect me directly so I should just move along.

 

[chabig]

When you can't innovate, litigate. Right, Apple?

When you have nothing to add to the conversation, repeat the tired internet meme.

 

[till213]

Do you really want to turn this into a who steals what thread for the 1000th time?

If you require, I'm sure someone could easily come up with 20 blatant things Apple has "stolen" from smartphone makers and software developers.

And we shall never forget the biggest epic industrial theft of last century: Apple stealing the idea of a graphical desktop from Xerox PARC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interface#Xerox_PARC

THAT, ladies and gents, was theft!

 

[1=1?]

ZZZZZZ Don't you have work to do stretching the iphone and ipad to new sizes?

 

[till213]

Yes! Let's get those lawyers working on iOS 7.1 already!!! Oh wait....

Yeah, right, they're useless for that! So why not fire them in the first place, and start hiring extraordinary engineering talent instead!

 

[DaveN]

Google filed a lawsuit against Rockstar to say that the patents they lost out on in their bidding war really don't apply to them anyway.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-files-lawsuit-against-rockstar-163005344.html

In other words, Google, the queen of copy, thinks their you-know-what doesn't stink.

 

[1=1?]

The only reason Apple is snapping at Samsung is that Samsung takes the "spirit" of iPhone and completely and utterly trounces all over it with a better product. While I might continue to use a Mac, you won't ever find me using another iPhone with it's dated, over-priced, technology (immoral or not).

Besides, if you really believed what you state then you wouldn't support Apple either. It is pretty much on-the-record that Apple has infringed multiple times in their rise to stardom. Further, Apple "new amazing addition" for the newest iPhone is a fingerprint reader? My Motorola Atrix 4G had that YEARS ago, but Im sure Apple didn't copy off them at all.

Glad I got my galaxy before they're "banned in the US". Beats the #### out of all the iphones I've had. I'm sure your moto somehow was in conflict with some apple patent though. I'm sure my desk is in conflict with some apple patent.

 

[chabig]

And we shall never forget the biggest epic industrial theft of last century: Apple stealing the idea of a graphical desktop from Xerox PARC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interface#Xerox_PARC

THAT, ladies and gents, was theft!

Ideas and concepts are not patentable. Apple took the concept of a GUI and invented their specific implementation, which is what everyone uses these days. The Xerox Star operated nothing like a Mac.