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iOS and OS X work perfectly for me. Not a single problem. I'll be up a midnight to pre order the Apple Watch. The more of you who stay away from it, the easier it will be for me to get one. Waterproof, I don't need. I don't need to wear it in the shower.

It's actually hilarious to listen to you guys complain and point out why you won't buy it. Apple is actually aware of every single objection you have. Raising your objections here over and over again will get you nowhere. The watch will be what it will be in it's first generation. And Apple knows it will sell a millions of them without your participation. And they don't care. So, instead of moaning and groaning, find another solution that will make you happy. I promise you that Apple won't mind one little bit and your lost sale will be insignificant. You aren't nearly as powerful as you'd like to think you are.

Sure, Apple is PERFECT. And so YOU are. Your arrogance in INFINITE.
 
I've spent the last week trying to convince myself that I don't want that [Dell XPS], but it's not working.

If only it ran OS X rather than Windoze. The OS is the only purchasing obstacle for me. As such, I await seeing what Apple will debut. Probably won't be bezelless though.
 
I await seeing what Apple will debut. Probably won't be bezelless though.

I was under the impression that decreasing the bezel size to a structurally rigid minimum along with going to a 12" screen size, was part of Apple's engineering strategy to make the smallest possible current full function portable computer.
 
If only it ran OS X rather than Windoze. The OS is the only purchasing obstacle for me. As such, I await seeing what Apple will debut. Probably won't be bezelless though.

I'll never boot into Windows if I buy one.
 
Unfortunately, I think the mac experience has become about making money and not much else. What better way to do it then produce another 'breakthrough' product that everyone 'has to have'? The watch is a money grab

A money grab? I'll count yours as another prediction that that Apple Watch will be a success for Apple (and that success will be a personal disappointment for your).
 
Judging by your reaction to my prediction, you must have some idea. When you respond "Ha. Not a chance.", I find it hard to believe you can justify a prediction of over 10 million Apple Watches.

As I've said, it isn't about how many they sell initially. It's whether or not they can keep selling them. I think 25 million in the first year is extremely ambitious. My gut tells me that's a very optimistic number. But I don't think any of us here are remotely qualified to make accurate sales predictions. Pulling 25 million out of thin air is just fanboy talk.

I'm far less concerned with sales than I am with the overall product category. Wearables are a niche market and I don't for a moment believe the Apple Watch is going to change that, certainly not at the current price point. Apple is putting a ton of energy and resources into this product. If they don't knock it out of the park, it will be perceived as a huge failure.

Outside of fan blogs, I don't see much interest in the Apple Watch. None of my clients or numerous friends to whom I provide lifetime tech support have even asked me about the product. I'm building a mobile app for a client and they haven't even mentioned the watch, much less how we might support it. I just don't see the enthusiasm anywhere except forums like this.

But, as I've said, I'm happy to be proved wrong. Personally, I have no interest in the product and can't ever imagine buying it. Not because it's a bad product, but because I don't like watches. I carry a phone. I don't need a watch. But I'll be more than happy if it sells well, makes the company stronger, and increases the value of my investment account.
 
Yeah, I think they can for a while.


You call this "hyping it so much?" The TV commercials haven't even started yet.


No. It only has to meet Apple's sales expectations. You're hedging now, so that if it's a modest success, or a solid success, you can say "See, I was right! It's not the biggest selling product of all time, so it's really a failure."

Nothing will squash the "Apple can't innovate without Steve" talk. Apple could become the biggest company in the world (as it did), and people would say it's not enough. Steve Jobs could rise from the grave and there'd be people saying he wasn't as good as the old Steve. You may take that talk seriously, but I don't take you seriously when you do. There was the same kind of talk about Steve himself when he was fully in charge. If you're hoping for something to squash the naysayers, you're not going to have a happy life.

Oh, I fully expect the hype to build. No doubt. But you're wrong about it only needing to meet Apple's sales expectations. On some level, sure, but in reality it needs to meet the market expectations too. While that might be totally unfair (ridiculous even), if the watch doesn't sell well, it will be egg all over Apple's face. I'm sure they'll still sell a lot of iPhones, but the public perception of the company as an innovator will be harmed.

And please don't put words in my mouth. First, I have no personal stake in whether it sells well or not. As an investor, I'm concerned that it isn't going to be a big success and that will negatively effect my investment. I'm also going to hazard a guess here that I've supported Apple a lot longer than most of the people here and have spent a lot more money on their products. I've earned my living for decades using Apple products. I have build custom apps for Apple products. I have converted several businesses to Apple products. I have no interest in gloating over a product failure. But I'm also allowed to believe that Apple is about to release their first flop since the return of Steve. I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

As for Apple can't innovate without Steve...one blockbuster product without Steve's fingerprints all over it would most certainly stop that talk. They've already positioned Apple Watch as that product, making a big deal over how it was developed after he died, he knew nothing about it, etc. They're trying to change the narrative. So, obviously, if you don't take me seriously for making the point, you must not take Tim or Jony seriously either.

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If you are going to demean people by telling them to work on their "reading comprehension," then you should know what an "ad hominem attack" is. Yes, telling someone they have poor reading comprension is a knock on their intelligence. (Not to worry, I was not insulted given the source, and understand it comes from the person making the attack not having any facts to support his/her own point.). But, just so you know, by definition it was an ad hominem attack.

And yes, Apple will give financial guidance tomorrow as always, not on the product (it's not categorized independently anyway) but overall revenue. From there one only needs to do a little match to figure out an approximate % of what Apple attributes to the Apple Watch.

Anyway, you still never answered my original question after all this. Do you have one?

I have an English degree from an Ivy League. I don't need you to define words for me, thank you.

You wrote:

"Not sure what one has to do with the other. Or are you saying because YOU don't "get it," it's ill fated launch is already written?"

Is that the question you so badly want answered? Like I said, BRUSH UP ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION. Nowhere did I say that MY personal opinion is somehow the deciding factor in whether or not the watch sells well.

Do I really need to spell this out for you? I guess so.

I said I'd been a customer for 32 years. I said this is the first product I don't understand and that I don't believe it will sell well. I did NOT say that the REASON it won't sell well is because *I* don't understand it.

GET IT???
 
As for Apple can't innovate without Steve...one blockbuster product without Steve's fingerprints all over it would most certainly stop that talk. They've already positioned Apple Watch as that product, making a big deal over how it was developed after he died, he knew nothing about it, etc. They're trying to change the narrative. So, obviously, if you don't take me seriously for making the point, you must not take Tim or Jony seriously either.
The reason I don't take you seriously is that you think success without Steve is going to stop the trash talk. They've already had success without Steve, and it didn't stop the talk. I also remember success with Steve, and there was plenty of trash talk then. If you have a quote of Tim or Jony saying that "this will stop people from saying Apple has lost its way," then I'll be happy to say I don't take them seriously on that point any more than I do you. I wouldn't even take it seriously if it came from Steve himself.
 
A money grab? I'll count yours as another prediction that that Apple Watch will be a success for Apple (and that success will be a personal disappointment for your).

No - good luck to them. What I am saying is that business is business. If you want to make the big bucks then you need to stay innovative. That means taking a risk on stepping into new / possibly non-existent markets. If everyone suddenly wants your product then, ka-ching, you're in the money. Just because I believe Apple are in it for the money doesn't make me someone who is disappointed by their success. :rolleyes:
 
No - good luck to them. What I am saying is that business is business. If you want to make the big bucks then you need to stay innovative. That means taking a risk on stepping into new / possibly non-existent markets. If everyone suddenly wants your product then, ka-ching, you're in the money. Just because I believe Apple are in it for the money doesn't make me someone who is disappointed by their success. :rolleyes:

Since Apple is currently making the biggest bucks ever (for any company), I'm guessing they're doing something right.
 
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