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Morning Show was good, Banker was alright, i’m really excited for On The Rocks, and i’m dying to see this Foundation series. They need more stuff, they have a lot of family fluff but when they do good it’s pretty good quality content.

Meanwhile Netflix screwed up season 2 of Altered Carbon and then just cancelled it...i’m pissed.

I *really* hope they don’t screw up foundation. I’ve read all the books (and the robots) about four times each. Once every decade or so i give them another read.
 
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I was not even close to being interested in this when I bought my MBP in April. I selected the nicer remind me again option about the trial and I'm good with that. I hate subscriptions and the only two I really have is Apple Music and SiriusXM and my new car has 6 months free of SiriusXM.
 
hahaha... Seriously. They totally screwed this service up. They needed to buy a back catalogue of some type, but they drank so much of their own Apple cider and thought the garbage they've been releasing has been water coolerish enough to get people to sign up. NOPE. Not even close.

I do see they are releasing some nature Docos. Now that's a step in the right direction. The one about tiny creatures and how they survive actually looks really good and something that will probably be worth watching. It's a tough market though, Nature Docos, plenty of places have an amazing track record, so it's going to take something special to make them stand out.
 
For me not worth it. Paying 4,99 euro for a month and stil paying for the movie that I wanne see is absurd.
new movies cost 13,99 euro average 🙈
 
Their App Stores are the probably the best, if you count that as a service.
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Also Apple Pay has worked really well, couldn’t have been a better exp.
Not a bad example with Apple Pay, that's easily their best, but more where I was going was a service that is paid for. A service that you expect something in return. Music is ok, but (for me) YouTube Premium is better value. iCloud is horribly outclassed, TV is well, TV and News may as well have died already, while Apple Arcade seems to be lacklustre as well.
 
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"The offer of a generous year-long free trial for Apple TV+...."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, (ad infinitum).

They couldn't charge us for such a pathetic few offerings like the ones they have. The service is garbage. Nothing much worth watching, and certainly not worth paying for. I have rarely watched anything on AppleTV+. The one exception of any merit was the Tom Hanks movie "Greyhound" that was recently released. Throwing big name stars into garbage shows just makes them expensive garbage. Once my free trial ends, I won’t be paying to renew it.

The key word in your paragraph is “I”. As in you are not everyone and as in: I think you are wrong and most of the show Are really good and some have won awards.

They do however need to ramp up their content quickly when you compare it Disney+ which is a similar price.
 
We have had 2 free subscriptions for the 2 iPads we bought, and neither of us has bothered to watch anything. In fact we have ZERO subscriptions to anything Apple, and to be honest I don't see that changing.
 
TV+ need rollouts of 3rd party content to survive. I said once, the service should give us rental coupons to watch any 3rd party movies of our own choice. Maybe 5 coupons per month with no rollover.

Or even better, copy Netflix and roll 10 - 15 monthly movies of iTunes catalogue.
 
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We have had 2 free subscriptions for the 2 iPads we bought, and neither of us has bothered to watch anything. In fact we have ZERO subscriptions to anything Apple, and to be honest I don't see that changing.

You can only use 1 of the 2 free subs. Unless they're not tied into the same Apple ID, or Family Sharing, then yes you can run 2 separate subs. But still, only 1 time free year for each Apple ID and its Family member.
 
I still think Apple's biggest mistake with ATV+ is not having a standalone app for just their content.
This. While I sort of understand Apple’s unwillingness to showcase the relative dearth of content on Apple TV+, it also has the downside in that those who want to see what they’re can get for their $5/month really have no way to find out.
There have been a few times when I’ve thought, “Hey, I have Apple TV+, I should see what’s on there” only to be left somewhat lost and bewildered, since Apple only surfaces it’s latest hit shows.

It doesn’t even need a separate app, but it definitely needs its own fully dedicated section in the TV app.
 
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it would be generous of aapl to extend free trial
as i have yet to take advantage of it
maybe i'll get around to watching somthing on atv
i've been fine with disney+ and amazon prime
 
Why would the first subscriptions end next month? Apple TV+ did not debut until November 2019 and subscriptions did not start until then. I signed up day 1, so I should still have 2 more months.
You do. If you look in itunes you'll see the subscription renewal is in November.
 
I feel like the article's title is misleading.
Apple isn't considering extending existing Apple TV+ free trials, but instead continuing the program for the next cycle of iPhones with a shorter free trial period.
 
What I said is exactly correct. The way Apple handles this is unethical and definitely does not accurately represent their services category or the Apple TV+ service itself.
This is actually a very serious allegation. Do you have a source for it? Not only are you correct that it would be unethical, but it would actually be blatantly illegal for Apple to be doing this, and if it were even remotely true, it should certainly be resulting in an investigation by the SEC. This is called defrauding investors, and there are massive penalties for any publicly traded company that does this, and especially for one the size of Apple.

I've listened to Apple explain this at least twice on investor calls, and I've read specific information from business publications and financial analysts that talk specifically about the investment side of Apple (e.g. Barrons, CNBC, the Financial Times), and they've all made it very clear that Apple is not allocating revenue to its Apple TV+ from every single qualifying device sold, but only from those who actually signed up for the service.

This is all part of generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) and not only is it done by every company that offers these kinds of services in order to make sure revenues are being reported as accurately as possible, but companies are actually required to move revenue around in this way in order to avoid fraudulent reporting in the other direction, such as when Apple had to adjust their numbers years ago to spread out the purchase of an iPod touch across several quarters in order to stop charging customers for software updates. In other words, Apple isn't actually allowed to give Apple TV+ away for free with the purchase of a new device either, since that would result in revenue from hardware sales being artificially inflated at the expense of services, which would be equally misleading to investors.

Ultimately at the end of the day, it does Apple very little good to artificially inflate its Apple TV+ revenue, since it doesn't report that separately. It's lumped in with Apple's $13.2 billion services category, which includes everything from the App Store to its search deal with Google, and compared to those, the revenue from Apple TV+ isn't all that significant — even if Apple sold 100m Apple devices last year and reported Apple TV revenue from every one of them, that would add an extra $1.5b to that category each quarter, with no indication that those numbers came from Apple TV+. However, I doubt very much Apple is willing to commit securities fraud just to shift 2% of its total revenue to falsely bolster its services category, especially when that money is otherwise getting reported as part of hardware sales anyway.

UPDATE: Here's an good article from Barrons that illustrates how one analyst has actually been able to estimate how low the uptake has been on the free trial precisely because Apple is only re-allocating the revenue from those who actually sign up to take advantage of the free year.
 
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You can only use 1 of the 2 free subs. Unless they're not tied into the same Apple ID, or Family Sharing, then yes you can run 2 separate subs. But still, only 1 time free year for each Apple ID and its Family member.

Well DUH. The point was neither I nor my wife had any interest in the Apple offerings. We had Amazon Prime for free too, for a year, watched about 3 shows on it and that was it. Even with its reduced catalog in NZ we have found Netflix all we need.
 
A lot of Apple TV shows are super underrated. The Morning Show is absolutely amazing
I made it through the first 2 episodes (I think). It probably would have resonated better for me if the writers didn’t feel a need to inject so much cursing into the dialogue. It got old very quick. A lot of writers do that to try and mask a very weak and often cliched story line.
 
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