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Now aren't I just delighted that last year I purchased the 2020 5k Retina 27" iMac at a drop-dead discounted price - and just upgraded the memory to 32Gb for a mere 66euros (US$72)! And 2 additional slots remain for an upgrade to 64Gb when memory prices reduce even further.......
For those who've never had the good fortune to try this model, imho it's brilliant, and truly very under-estimated. A definite keeper, at least until 2026/27 when the rumored M3 30" iMac has fallen to a 'reasonable' price.;)
 
I don't think this is going to happen. A larger Apple Studio Display maybe. And even if they release it, I likely won't be able/willing to afford it.

My next desktop Mac will the the cheapest mini with a run-of-the-mill and likely mediocre 32 inch monitor from Dell, LG or Samsung.
 
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I was in the market for just this.

Couldn't wait. Bought a 16 MBP and a large monitor instead.
 
They already redesigned the imac for the 24”. Just scale it up to 27 and add faster chips and more ram. This isn’t rocket science That should take years to “develop” the hard work has already been done
Yeah man, I doubt it's as easy as all that. Finite number of engineers, fininte materials and shipping and manufacturing capacity. They prioritize all that to whatever has the most demand, yeah? We're also talking about a time period when there's been a severe enough shortage of chips to make it so that cars were actually shipping without GPS installed just so they can get off the assembly line.

It's fun to play armchair engineering and supply chain management, but I have a hunch that maybe (just maybe) it's a little harder than clicking iMac 24" on a screen and scaling it up and hitting "print" so it starts coming out of a factory somewhere.
 
Yeah man, I doubt it's as easy as all that. Finite number of engineers, fininte materials and shipping and manufacturing capacity. They prioritize all that to whatever has the most demand, yeah? We're also talking about a time period when there's been a severe enough shortage of chips to make it so that cars were actually shipping without GPS installed just so they can get off the assembly line.

It's fun to play armchair engineering and supply chain management, but I have a hunch that maybe (just maybe) it's a little harder than clicking iMac 24" on a screen and scaling it up and hitting "print" so it starts coming out of a factory somewhere.
I'm 100% sure it was a marketing decision not to release a 27" Apple Silicon iMac, and not an engineering decision.
 
I'm 100% sure it was a marketing decision not to release a 27" Apple Silicon iMac, and not an engineering decision.
I don't think the two can be entirely separated. There's a cost/benefit for every new product released.
 
Ridiculous how Gurman can make predictions and MR comments only either completely buy into everything he says and start speculation ad nauseam or go completely cynical and say how obvious and redundant everything he predicts is.

Let's remind ourselves:
  • Gurman doesn't know anything for a fact. He mixes some believable leaks/rumors with what's just reasonable predictions based on Apple's past product launches.
  • Gurman is not responsible for what Apple does or doesn't put out.
Yes, it makes for some very boring predictions.

But what do you want from him, to make up some lies to stir up speculation?
 
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Ridiculous how Gurman can make predictions and MR comments only either completely buy into everything he says and start speculation ad nauseam or go completely cynical and say how obvious and redundant everything he predicts is.

Let's remind ourselves:
  • Gurman doesn't know anything for a fact. He mixes some believable leaks/rumors with what's just reasonable predictions based on Apple's past product launches.
  • Gurman is not responsible for what Apple does or doesn't put out.
Yes, it makes for some very boring predictions.

But what do you want for him, to make up some lies to stir up speculation?
well, you're taking the fun out of everything ;)
you are absolutely correct in what you're saying...
 
Starting price: $3,999 w/ 16gb RAM and 250GB SSD.

"Reasonable" by MacRumors standards.

Cue the "IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" people lol. All they need to do is put some dude in a goatee showing how effortlessly he edits his porn videos and everyone will be falling all over themselves with smugness talking about how it's for producing creative media and the machine is a priceless bargain at $4k.
 
Should I wait for this or get the new Mac Studio + Studio Display now? My 27” iMac is 6 years old.
 
Should I wait for this or get the new Mac Studio + Studio Display now? My 27” iMac is 6 years old.
Depends on what you yourself want and need of course.

I personally am not interested in replacing my 2017 27" iMac with basically the exact same display for $$$$. In the meantime, I just got a much cheaper 4K 28" monitor and Mac mini, hoping that a decent larger monitor that's 5K to 6K and that's not priced like a Pro XDR comes out by 2025.

P.S. I was going to give my 2017 27" to my daughter, but she doesn't want it. She'd rather just use her 2015 13" MacBook Pro. :confused: So, it's just is sitting here on my desk unused, next to my M1 Mac mini. 😑
 
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Gurman has been spouting off about iMac Pro since the day Apple sunset the last iMac Pro. Quite frankly, he's pooped the bed more often than not in the last few years. His "predictions" are no different than a casual Apple follower's guess. He (like most other bloggers like him) simply changes the story days or even hours before announcements happen when it's clear their guesses aren't going to materialize.
 
Great. Make sure it has a proper black screen bezel too so it looks like a professional tool instead of a GD child’s toy.
 
So they're now going to have a 30 iMac, while the studio display is still at 27 and screw over all of us who bought the Studio Display & Mini or Studio combo?! Of course they're not going to release a 30 inch Studio display because then it would compete with this new iMac.

Apple already sells a >30 display


so that was an option for a mini or Mac Studio . How many XDR displays a Mac can run is a standard part of Apple’s tech specs. In the ‘can iMac > 30“ be a decent monitor alternative’ to the XDR, the XDR is somewhat due for a replacement ( < 600 dimming zones for a $6000 display is weak in 2023-24 ) , so Apple will likely still be selling a > 30” dispaly when/if this new iMac comes out. Doubtful Apple is going to walk away from selling $6000 displays .



They could simply take current XDR display panel and modify the old iMac Pro chassis to accept the larger panel . If in 1-2 years Apple comes out with a ‘XDR 2’ then they would have an older, more affordable panel to toss in that has proven track record . ( and still create spare parts for the 1st Gen XDRs )
[ someone also mention there is a mainstream LG IPS black panel that also should be cheap ( for Apple ) in 1-2 years if they were shooting to drive down costs further. ]

So Apple hasn’t screwed anyone. Nobody ‘has to’ buy a Mac Studio Display. There other more than decent 3rd party options out there .


Additionally, I think there is a running assumption here that Apple is going to price an “over 30 inch “ display back at old 27” iMac like prices ( where large chunk of line up ends up in the $1,700-3,000 range ). [ 21.5 —> 24” mild increase so 27 —> 30 would also be mild increase . problem there os rumors is > 30” ; not that it is 30” ]. This new > 30” option is likely priced no where near what a mini+ studio display is priced at. pretty good chance this is a > $4k priced system more so priced so that it is cheaper than a mini + ‘XDR 2’ but doesn’t cut into much of the sales market for that more expensive screen.

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there have been some rumors of another 27” dispaly from Apple that would sit between Studio Display and XDR.

Wish Apple would release their desktop Macs at the same time so buyers know all the options. Buying a Mac these days is about making a compromise and then regretting your decision a couple months later when Apple releases a new Mac that you would have purchased if you knew was coming out.

the $6,000 Mac Pro (MP) and $1,000 Mini are in no way shape or form a direct interchangeable substitute options for the overwhelming vast number of buyers .

I think you have been conditioned by the warped approach Apple made from about 2005-2020 to herd most desktop users into the iMacs ( with semi crippled Mini’s and rising MP pricing ) . The doeskyop should span about 5 different SoCs ( plain Mn , Mn Pro , Mn Max , Mn Ultra , Mn Biiger-than-Ultra ) . Absolutely zero good reason to release all those SoCs at exactly the same time.

Apple used to force the iMac to be “king of the desktops . Now Apple has opened the door to more fratricide on the desktop and more placement for 3rd party displays .


I waited years for a new iMac to replace my 5K and then finally gave in and bought a Studio Display/Mini Pro option when it seemed like a new iMac was never coming out.

First, Apple came out with a 2020 Intel iMac 27” after they announced the transi start. That should have been a huge clue that the 27” replacement was NOT coming soon . Minimalky a year after that if not more due to the pandemic . ( that system probably should have before WWDC 2020 , but it did not . So slide on timeline already very evident )

When in 2021 the smaller screen model turned into ‘iPad on a stick’ that also should have been a clue the 27” model was in trouble. If Apple opens the door to huge reconceptualizationof the iMac and that opens the door to maybe not doing it. ( if the Mini gets the same SoC .. how many are going to buy an iMac ? Yes some folks like All-in-one but lots of folks do not . Apple used to make lots of folks buy an iMac when they didn’t want to . So an open question of how many folks would be left )
When Apple came out on stage in 2022 and said transition was done for iMac , should have ended hemming and hawing able maybe more iMac coming ‘real soon now ‘ . It wasn’t . Apple basically said so .


Apple has some problems with the trend lines on ‘right to repair‘ and super sealed iMac . Also screen panel tech in major flux ( sold 27” scrreb for about 8+ years with basically now change )
 
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What display / scaling setting did you choose?
It's in my sig. I have a 28.2" Huawei MateView. They call it 4K+, at 3840x2560 (3:2). Pixel density is the same 163 ppi as a 4K 3840x2160 27" screen. It's same width with the same horizontal resolution as 4k 27", but just taller with more vertical resolution. Stupidly, it only supports 4K 3840x2160 over HDMI, but I run USB-C to get the full 4K+ resolution.

I think most people would probably run it scaled to 2560x1707, but I run at 2304x1536 to get bigger text. Interestingly macOS offers this scaled 2304x1707 resolution for this monitor, and offers 2304x1296 on LG 27" 4K displays, but does not offer 2304x1296 resolution on my 27" iMac or on the 27" Apple Studio Display. What gives?


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Was CA$699 last year, which I think at the time was about US$515.

Colours were not great out of the box, but after calibration they look great. (Yes, I went out and bought an actual Datacolor SpyderX Pro colour calibrator.) Zero backlight bleed on my unit too. Also, no sleep issues over USB-C, even through a Plugable Thunderbolt 4 hub.

The main downside is that brightness is somewhat stronger in centre than at edges, and this difference is magnified by the viewing angles. If I look at the edges straight on, it's harder to tell the brightness difference from when I'm looking at the centre of the screen straight on. However, if I place my face right in the centre of the screen and turn my head to look at the edges, it looks somewhat dimmer at the edges. Luckily there is no significant colour shift off-axis.

I bought and returned two Asus ProArt monitors. They had better factory colour calibration, but they both had horrible backlight bleed. Total non-starter for me. They also were just fugly.
 
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Why would you even want that, it would have a single nand 256gb SSD and 8gb ram for that price, so in other words garbage, if it's using the non-pro M2/3 chip in the base model.

I don't. That's the point. I feel there are many who think there is some way back to Intel iMac "bigger" prices with Silicon inside. I see no way to "starting at" <$2K. But I think many believe there is some way for that to happen... even with ASD filling the price minus the computer + keyboard + mouse. I suspect some of the attraction to iMac 27" was the old (relative) value proposition... which is why I mostly think that Mac was retired for this period... to be resurrected as a PRO-branded machine at PRO machine pricing.
 
This should be released in 2024. Any later, and it's getting dumb. I'd expect it to start at $3999–$4999 with an M3 Max: 1TB storage, 32GB Memory. Basically, a $2,000–$3,000 premium over the Mac Studio, and for that $2,000–$3,000, you get a high-refresh-rate, 6K HDR display.
Are there any high refresh rate 6K panels available? The only ones I know about are 60Hz.
 
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