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Oh, I hope that you're joking.

Please say that you've been following proper hazardous waste
disposal protocols when getting rid of no longer needed Apples....

Oh sure, I've given my electronic waste to "recycling" charities. You'll just have to trust that they're properly disposing my (families) antique Apples. I will carefully change my signature.
 
What competition? Everything that has followed the introduction of the iPhone has been nothing but a obvious knock-off of the iPhone. No competing handset maker has bought any new, genuine, distinguishable innovation to the handset market, it's just the usual parade of me-too copycats. When a real one shows up, I'll be the first to acknowledge it, but I ain't exactly holding my breath for that "competitor" to show up


Weeeelllll I wouldn’t go that far. Competition doesn’t always have to be innovative or have quality to compete. There are tons of Smart phones out there on the market that compete with Apple by selling their device on the open market. Now are these devices good competitors. Not all of them. Have any of them been effective? Not really. Are they competing in general? Yes.

It’s very possible to compete and loose (even by a small percentage). Competing and winning is tougher.
 
I'm really starting to dislike Apple now. They're going nuts with the censorship, babysitting, and patents now. They're just afraid of competition.

Apple and it's competition are businesses with all the pluses and minus associated with capitalism. Their goals are to maximize profits for their shareholders and not to be friendly and share with the competition (i.e. think of it as war fought between the different companies).

To think otherwise is very naive.
 
Apple and it's competition are businesses with all the pluses and minus associated with capitalism. Their goals are to maximize profits for their shareholders and not to be friendly and share with the competition (i.e. think of it as war fought between the different companies).

To think otherwise is very naive.
That is an excellent summary of what a business is and what it is not. Most businesses are not charities and are designed to operate in their best interests. This is not always good for us.
 
Some people here will defend Apple no matter what it does. If they go and develop eavesdropping technology to use on their customers, for example, some fanboys here will find a way to justify it. I bet if the company in question was Microsoft, they would be blasted. Guess what, Apple is doing what Microsoft used (and still does to an extent) to do: kill competition and limit customers' options, while ripping them off with high prices. Who's the evil company now?

Apple's grown too fast over the last few years and it's gotten to its head. It's like anytime a company makes something similar to Apple they want to go after them. As others have said, some of Apple's patents are so broad that its hard not to make something that overlaps sometimes. They have patents that they can rightfully defend but this is becoming ridiculous.

Apple is losing its roots: making good computers and software while focusing too much on these gadgets. The iPad? Really?? With the amount of hype surrounding that you would have thought something better would have shown up, especially at that price. Netbooks and HP's slate look more appealing than that iPad crap.
 
Apple's grown too fast over the last few years and it's gotten to its head. It's like anytime a company makes something similar to Apple they want to go after them. As others have said, some of Apple's patents are so broad that its hard not to make something that overlaps sometimes. They have patents that they can rightfully defend but this is becoming ridiculous.

Apple, as a publicly traded company, has a fucidiary responsibility to its shareholders to defend the intellectual property which it has spent hundreds of millions of dollars researching and developing and which it has patented.
 
Microsoft is the one making innovative waves lately - Windows 7 series, Courier, and etc.

The only problem is...neither product actually exists yet. (I assume you're talking Windows Phone 7 Series.)

Innovation = bringing great products to market before your competitors. Not afterwards.

Guess what, Apple is doing what Microsoft used (and still does to an extent) to do: kill competition and limit customers' options, while ripping them off with high prices. Who's the evil company now?

Um, Microsoft?

See, killing competition and extracting maximum dollars from your products is called good business.

Doing so illegally is called Microsoft.
 
Why do they have to provide the basis on which the competition succeeds? If they patented methods and ways of implementing features, why should others just be able to use them as if they are some sort of new open standard? :confused:

Because Apple is using technology that other have developed and patented as the basis of their own products?

Or are we applying strict double standards here because it's Apple fan forum?

Speaking of the iPhone introduction, which was at MacWorld 2007 months before it's public release, the Apple employee who delivered the keynote couldn't have been more clear about the iPhone's patent rights. In fact, the Apple employee (whoever that guy is) who delivered the keynote remarked on numerous occasions that the iPhone had numerous patents and that Apple "intend to protect them"


Yet, if you read the patents that Apple included in this case, there is very few patents specifically related to Iphone, and none (=0) multitouch patents. I wonder if they counted the basic operating system ja user interface patents from the 90's among those 200 patents Jobs claimed protecting Iphone.

Their claim that Iphone is innovative and result of their hard research and development work isnt't particularly strong if best they have are these unlocking the device kind of patents.
 
Apple needs to tread carefully and not create bad blood with competitors and developers of applications for Apple products.

Microsoft could say, we're not developing MS Office for the Mac OS X platform anymore.

Google could say, sorry, we've stopped development of Google maps for the iPhone and other Google web applications, including search, are no longer supported for Safari.

Adobe can say we no longer support Adobe CS for Mac OS X and future development of Adobe products for Mac OS X has now been terminated.

If you piss off a lot of people than the iPhone OS and Mac OS X is doomed.
 
Apple needs to tread carefully and not create bad blood with competitors and developers of applications for Apple products.

Microsoft could say, we're not developing MS Office for the Mac OS X platform anymore.

Google could say, sorry, we've stopped development of Google maps for the iPhone and other Google web applications, including search, are no longer supported for Safari.

Adobe can say we no longer support Adobe CS for Mac OS X and future development of Adobe products for Mac OS X has now been terminated.

If you piss off a lot of people than the iPhone OS and Mac OS X is doomed.

So Apple is fu**** without 3rd parties?
 
Apple needs to tread carefully and not create bad blood with competitors and developers of applications for Apple products.

Microsoft could say, we're not developing MS Office for the Mac OS X platform anymore.

Google could say, sorry, we've stopped development of Google maps for the iPhone and other Google web applications, including search, are no longer supported for Safari.

Adobe can say we no longer support Adobe CS for Mac OS X and future development of Adobe products for Mac OS X has now been terminated.

If you piss off a lot of people than the iPhone OS and Mac OS X is doomed.

And to add to that - Apple may be enjoying some success in market saturation...but, it is still peanuts compared to overall "PC" market share. So, if Apple was to piss more people off then they already are - and the big name companies pack it up... wouldn't be much hurt in their wallets - if at all.
 
Apple needs to tread carefully and not create bad blood with competitors and developers of applications for Apple products.

Microsoft could say, we're not developing MS Office for the Mac OS X platform anymore.

Google could say, sorry, we've stopped development of Google maps for the iPhone and other Google web applications, including search, are no longer supported for Safari.

Adobe can say we no longer support Adobe CS for Mac OS X and future development of Adobe products for Mac OS X has now been terminated.

If you piss off a lot of people than the iPhone OS and Mac OS X is doomed.

While I agree with you, I am reminded of something an old guy named michavelli once said:

"...tis better to be feared than to be loved..."
 
I dont think all that is about multitouch patent..is rather about interface. All other manufactures they do exact copy of touch interface and they call it iPhone killer. They are like schoolboys....can't come up with their own fresh idea which is really sad and childish when taking size of these companies into account.
I think Apple doing good job by doing this; hopefully make others work harder for "iphone Killer" title.
 
i like your sig.

Don't support censorship - buy Android

From the company that's been censoring search results in China for 4 years.

EVIL. :D

Ha ha, nice. Excellent point. I've been forgetting about Google's shenanigans lately.
 
Ha ha, nice. Excellent point. I've been forgetting about Google's shenanigans lately.

I agree completley. Especially when Apple introduced the iPhone with WiFi as a big "F*ck you!" to the Chinese government. :cool::apple:


WAIT, they didn't? OH NOES! :eek: Apple MUST be evil. :(
 
Apple, as a publicly traded company, has a fucidiary responsibility to its shareholders to defend the intellectual property which it has spent hundreds of millions of dollars researching and developing and which it has patented.

So do the other companies which have spent millions of dollars developing their technologies that are found throughout Apple's products. I for one, hope Apple gets successfully sued/counter-sued. This case goes both ways.
 
i like your sig.

Don't support censorship - buy Android

From the company that's been censoring search results in China for 4 years.

EVIL. :D

And Apple hasn't censored anything in China? Talk about being a fanboy to the extreme.... Pretty much any tech company has to censor stuff to operate in China. So don't make it sound as if Apple is all pro-freedom (when they even limit what their customers can get in the US).

This is one example of Apple's censorship in China and there are many more:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/185604/apple_censors_dalai_lama_iphone_apps_in_china.html
 
And Apple hasn't censored anything in China? Talk about being a fanboy to the extreme.... Pretty much any tech company has to censor stuff to operate in China. So don't make it sound as if Apple is all pro-freedom (when they even limit what their customers can get in the US).

This is one example of Apple's censorship in China and there are many more:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/185604/apple_censors_dalai_lama_iphone_apps_in_china.html

And yet...the hypocrisy remains.
 
I agree completley. Especially when Apple introduced the iPhone with WiFi as a big "F*ck you!" to the Chinese government. :cool::apple:

WAIT, they didn't? OH NOES! :eek: Apple MUST be evil. :(

I facepalmed when the Commie iPhone was released. If I were SJ I would've steered clear of that market entirely. It's not as though they weren't already making plenty of cash from the Western model.
 
Apple needs to tread carefully and not create bad blood with competitors and developers of applications for Apple products.

Microsoft could say, we're not developing MS Office for the Mac OS X platform anymore.

Google could say, sorry, we've stopped development of Google maps for the iPhone and other Google web applications, including search, are no longer supported for Safari.

Adobe can say we no longer support Adobe CS for Mac OS X and future development of Adobe products for Mac OS X has now been terminated.

If you piss off a lot of people than the iPhone OS and Mac OS X is doomed.

Except Microsoft cant do that, the result of a suit between Apple and Microsoft meant that Microsoft agreed to make Office for Mac for just about its entire product life.

I dont think Adobe would stop developing for mac, they biggest legit user base uses Macs.
 
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