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Here in Belgium people mocked my iPhone for not having NFC, then when I asked if they had ever used it on their masterrace phone, they went like: "... No, but it's coming soon, so..."

To this day, I have never encountered something that supports NFC. And neither have they
In the Netherlands NFC is used nation-wide in public transportation and new PIN card readers allow for it too. I received a new bark card from ING with NFC capabilities last month.
 
If they dont believe in the technology, then thats a terrible reason to advocate including a feature.

We dont think this technology is very good, but some other companies are doing it so - here it is.

It's actually a very good reason to include it. Companies have fallen before by trying to sell what they want to sell, as opposed to selling what the customer wants to buy.
 
Boo apple!

Way to go screwing your loyal customer base. If you knew you'd put NFC in why wait? More money ?

How to screw your loyal customer base 101

Bluetooth 4 , ibeacons is the way to reward apple loyalty ;)
 
Would not expect Apple to add this.
At least the NFC on my One M7 has never been turned on.

I have never seen a single person paying with NFC, not ones!

The problem with NFC is that it does not identify you as a payer, it identifies just the device which may be your or not. With Touch ID the payment is much more secure because you identify you as a payer with your finger. The same is when you pay with your credit card by typing the PIN because its supose that only you know the pin. I may start paying with my mobile device ONLY when the device is secure with technology such as Touch ID on controled OS and controled App Store. None of this is present at this moment in any Android device so who is crazy enough to use it? Also, from a technical point of view im not sure if some crazy portable gadget may steal your payment information while your phone is in your pocket while your in the bus or in public. I see it as nice technology as a concept but ill stick to my credit card and my bank´s app for my payments.
 
I have never seen a single person paying with NFC, not ones!

Correct. But adding this to iPhone will revolutionise the use and spread like wildfire quicker than any other platform. It's just how it is currently. iPhones will make any feature popular.
 
"No need to wonder around the room, bumping phones..."

- Craig Federighi, 2013

That was in relation to AirDrop. And he was spot on - 'bumping' phones to transfer your media is pretty ridiculous.

However, everyone can see the added security of touching your device/card to a base to make a payment for example. I hope they add NFC and it becomes the way we pay for thing in the next few years.
 
So Apple won't try to push iBeacons and Bluetooth 4 and just give in to competition?

Colour me sceptical.

NFC has absolutely nothing to do with iBeacons or with Bluetooth for that matter. Different technologies and applications.
 
Apple must be getting an NFC by default QUALCOMM is probably implemented NFC into one of the chips that Apple is using
 
I use my NFC visa debit card all the time, literally for every transaction I can under £15 value (the limit of the system) and it works like a dream, paying for a snack or travel tickets or car parking ... much easier than chip and pin (which the US still doesn't have - and astounds me)

Im not sure about the benefit of it being in my phone though ... would the payment be added to my mobile bill, or would the tech be linked to a sep account with my own bank etc...
 
One of the reasons slowing the successful and widespread use of NFC was the lack of it on the iPhone. I hope Apple finally adds NFC (it's great!), but I'm also a bit pissed off it will happen so late.
Apple has little incentive to implement if the infrastructure isn't in place to support the technology.
Personally I'm saddened that more and more Apple is now catching up, late, slow, neglecting (Mac Pro, now Mac Mini, Apple TV (outdated UI, no App Store)). Apple also overslept the streaming music revolution (think Spotify).
Some of this is justified, Apple does tend to neglect things. However it is silly to describe them as catching up when it is pretty obvious they are the leaders in many ways. Hell most PC makers can't seem to do a machine the equal of an Air. Nobody has anything that comes close to A7 either. The problem here is that you are seeing only what you want to see, ignoring the rapid advancements that Apple is making. Think about it, Apple is about to lap the rest of the industry when it comes to 64 bit ARM. Apple is not at rest here, they just aren't focused on the things many of us want them focused on {Mac Mini}.
I don't buy this BS about "getting it right". If Google can figure out NFC, Apple can too. And Apple also can put a current-gen processor in a Mac Mini and not neglect it for 2 years, even if they are working (I'm guessing) on a completely new thinner version (OMG, thinner, can you believe it).
I have to agree with respect to the Mini, their behavior is asinine.
Sorry for the rant, but I seriously start to lose my admiration for Apple.
That is silly.
PS - my brand new iPhone 5s hangs up and restarts at least once or twice a day. WTF! :mad:
Why whine here? Take it back for repair or exchange.
 
Multi-touch screen? Finger print scanner? Visual voice mail?

Visual Voicemail was something I wish had taken off. If you check the country compatibility list for iPhone worldwide you'll see Visual Voicemail support outside the US and Canada is woeful.

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Im not sure about the benefit of it being in my phone though ... would the payment be added to my mobile bill, or would the tech be linked to a sep account with my own bank etc...

Perhaps you're onto something there, the payment is linked to your iTunes account and Apple takes its usual 30% :D
 
But how can a technology like NFC become widespread, if one of the leading platforms (iPhone) is not using it? This is not technology for the sake of technology. This is the old chicken and egg problem.

And to everyone screaming how stupid and worthless NFC is - let's see your comments after Apple adds NFC. Surely then you'll sing a different tune. Probably something along the lines of "finally doing it right" and so on. I'm getting sick of this *****.

If technology is so perfect, useful, ets... than it evolve and spread even without apple... so maybe, NFC is no next big thing, as mainly fandroids believe it is:D
 
"No need to wonder around the room, bumping phones..." - Craig Federighi, 2013

Wander. And you don't have to "bump", just get very close.

Using NFC when next to someone is handy because you don't have to know any other information, like emails or phone numbers. Proximity and an "I agree" button replace that.

When my Android owning kids are visiting, we use NFC all the time to instantly exchange web site urls, photos, and directions, while we're sitting next to each other on the couch.

Moreover, it's just one of several different ways for exchanging information. Obviously if you're not next to someone, you'd use a different method.

I have never seen a single person paying with NFC, not ones!

Depends on where you live and what your needs are.

When my daughter lived in Florida with a toddler, she loved NFC. Baby in one hand, phone in the other... so it was much easier for her to pay for gas, fast food, groceries, even Home Depot by using her phone.

The problem with NFC is that it does not identify you as a payer, ...

Credit cards (especially in the US) don't identify you either, yet we use them all the time. At least with NFC, a waiter can't write down the numbers and sell them. And with NFC, there's usually low limits before a PIN is required, vs the fact that someone can spend hundreds of dollars with a credit card number.

Either way though, the CC company eats the cost of an unauthorized transaction, so no worries for the user.

Integrating NFC into the iPhone 6 would be a bit of a surprise move by Apple, as the company's head of marketing Phil Schiller stated in 2012 that the technology was "not the solution to any current problem."

Not that much of a surprise. History is full of examples of Apple dissing something, that they later sell themselves.

As for NFC, it never seemed likely that Apple would implement it until they could figure out a way to get a cut of every transaction.
 
In the Netherlands NFC is used nation-wide in public transportation and new PIN card readers allow for it too. I received a new bark card from ING with NFC capabilities last month.

Figured you guys were ahead of the game as opposed to our country :)

Do people make much use of them to? Or is it still in the novelty phase?
 
I use my NFC visa debit card all the time, literally for every transaction I can under £15 value (the limit of the system) and it works like a dream, paying for a snack or travel tickets or car parking ...
One thing that is obvious in this thread is that many simply don't understand NFC.
much easier than chip and pin (which the US still doesn't have - and astounds me)
Credit cards and the vendor and user responsibilities are highly regulated in the US. Due to that legal infrastructure there is great reluctance to move off the current platforms.
Im not sure about the benefit of it being in my phone though ... would the payment be added to my mobile bill, or would the tech be linked to a sep account with my own bank etc...

Ideally Apple would open a division or business unit to specifically support the coming payments system. The other option is that Apple links to your credit or debit account.
 
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