Apple Reportedly Integrating NFC Technology into iPhone 6

[Tech198]

nooooooooooo !!!

God dam it Apple...

This is NOT "Think different"

this is "Thinking the same"

Maybe it was once like that, but no more..... Since Samsung has NFC, I'm sure Apple never wanted NFC...

But wait... yes they do

This isn't fair.... And i'm sure because "Apple feedback/customers want this"

BS....... If you want NFC, get a Sansung phone, and leave Apple to want they do best without ripping off some other company.

I think i've just lost fath in Apple now.... They are just like all others who don't have their own technology....

It's a real shame... Apple never used to be like this before iOS7 that is,,,, then suddenly, tables turned right after Apple bough new people in.

Now, isn't that a coincidence


Now, I'm sure most people will NOW say "oh great.. NFC" but on an Apple phone that's only why... If we were talking Samsung phones everyone would say "Who wants NFC" ?

If you ask me Apple's phone going forward may have taller screens and all, but their nothing short of being unique in any way...... the similarities are slowly creeping into iphone too... You never see Nokia with this stuff ? Least they know what thay are actually doing.

 

[apolloa]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ooohhhhh how I REMEMBER READING SOOOO MANY posts on these very forums from members claiming NFC IS DEAD! IT IS USELESS TECHNOLOGY....

hahahahaha

Oh how the tables turn, Apple fans are special people

Welcome to the 21st century iPhone.

 

[njsapple2012]

I use my NFC visa debit card all the time, literally for every transaction I can under £15 value (the limit of the system) and it works like a dream, paying for a snack or travel tickets or car parking ... much easier than chip and pin (which the US still doesn't have - and astounds me)

Im not sure about the benefit of it being in my phone though ... would the payment be added to my mobile bill, or would the tech be linked to a sep account with my own bank etc...

It's now £20 or less in the United Kingdom.

It'd be great if you could securely link it to your mobile's banking app on your iPhone with push notifications and a "wallet" detailing credits and debits.

I know it's an oft-touted rumour but I hope Apple jump on this particular bandwagon.

 

[lazyrighteye]

... if you have three or four credit cards plus a debit card, a driver's license and a student ID, that's a lot of crap to carry. I'd love to buy one of those iPhone cases that would allow carrying a few bills and maybe a couple of cards...

Or carry an iPhone + Coin.
https://onlycoin.com

 

[jonnysods]

Wasn't this a rumor for the 4?

 

[apolloa]

Multi-touch screen? Finger print scanner? Visual voice mail?

Well, you got two of those right, for a MOBILE PHONE that is. And I don't know anyone who uses visual voice mail.

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It's now £20 or less in the United Kingdom.

It'd be great if you could securely link it to your mobile's banking app on your iPhone with push notifications and a "wallet" detailing credits and debits.

I know it's an oft-touted rumour but I hope Apple jump on this particular bandwagon.

Well on Android you can use your phones NFC in EXACTLY the same way as a bank card, it just takes the money your of Google Wallet. So basically everything you just said you wished for already exists on Android.

 

[Tech198]

It's now £20 or less in the United Kingdom.

It'd be great if you could securely link it to your mobile's banking app on your iPhone with push notifications and a "wallet" detailing credits and debits.

I know it's an oft-touted rumour but I hope Apple jump on this particular bandwagon.

Besides,, payment system ?


NFC is limited, we all know that that needs phones to be in close proximity...

Apple has iBeacon ..... Or have we just moved on from that ?

 

[Sasparilla]

NFC seems like an idea waiting for a purpose. i'm sure bank cards now come with stickers that you can use with contact less payment if you stick em to your phone.

Apple store already has a payment system you can scan items and pay for them and leave without needing to be near anything at all you do it all in the app store.

I can understand doing the finger print as verification but whether it that or a pin code you really don't need to add in NFC to the equation or even a POS station.

Am I missing something here or what?

True, unless one of your "emerging" markets (like the Chinese govt) is asking for this...

Like the Beats rumor, we'll just have to wait and see - seems unlikely unless the Chinese govt asked for it.

 

[Rogifan]

So who is this source close to the matter? Yeah, I'm always inclined to believe those kinds of stories.

 

[apolloa]

Besides,, payment system ?


NFC is limited, we all know that that needs phones to be in close proximity...

Apple has iBeacon ..... Or have we just moved on from that ?

NFC isn't limited, the amount you can spend is capped to reduce risk of theft or corruption, also why you swipe your device on a read, again more secure than just walking around a shopping precinct or airport with your contactless payment system permanently turned on. That's the ENTIRE reason NFC is made so the amount you can spend is severely capped, plus it saves a lot of battery power by just having to swipe your phone across a reader as opposed to several feet away. Plus your iPhones battery could be chewed quickly up if you walk around an airport and it's WiFi is being used plus it's iBeacon being used etc.

Edited this to make more sense.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

Visual Voicemail was something I wish had taken off. If you check the country compatibility list for iPhone worldwide you'll see Visual Voicemail support outside the US and Canada is woeful.

I didn't know that. I love Visual Voicemail, and I figured it had penetrated most markets. Visual Voicemail, and the texting app is what initially drew me to the iPhone.

 

[vmachiel]

After all their push for bluetooth LE and iBeacon stuff, this would make no sense. And really, who uses NFC anyway?

 

[One Bad Duck]

Report is wrong

The NFC wont be in the phone it will be in the iWatch.. think about it. The whole point of convenience when paying for something or going through a metro gate is that its ON YOUR WRIST. Android losers will fiddle getting their phone out.

what can be easier than extending your arm and pushing down on the machine. The watch face then tells your railcard balance or whatever. If apple hasnt done this solution, frankly they're idiots.

 

[the8thark]

It really is about time they did this, for competitiveness' sake if for no other reason.

If they dont believe in the technology, then thats a terrible reason to advocate including a feature.

We dont think this technology is very good, but some other companies are doing it so - here it is.

I agree, that's a terrible reason to add a technology to a product. You're out to make the best and it'll sell. Just adding features cause others have, just leads to poorly implemented features. The ones who added the fingerprint scanners to the android phones are a prime example. Poorly implemented, just there cause Apple had it in the 5s. And they did it poorly and didn't take the time to do it properly like Apple did.

 

[apolloa]

But how can a technology like NFC become widespread, if one of the leading platforms (iPhone) is not using it? This is not technology for the sake of technology. This is the old chicken and egg problem.

And to everyone screaming how stupid and worthless NFC is - let's see your comments after Apple adds NFC. Surely then you'll sing a different tune. Probably something along the lines of "finally doing it right" and so on. I'm getting sick of this *****.

No, you'll get people on here proclaim Apple invented and patented NFC! Going by some things you read on this site...

Anyway, Apple should include a technology everyone else uses. Not everyone is going to waste money and wright off investment just to implement something Apple has made and only works with iPhones.

 

[MrXiro]

Really hope iPhone 6 will bring something new. My iPhone 5S really looks old now a days compared to others Nokia 1520 or the HTC One M8

I can't speak for the Nokia as I've never seen it... but istn't the One M8 essentially the same phone as the year prior just as the 5S is the same as the 5 the year before it with a handful of upgraded internals?

 

[W1LLk]

Does this mean ANYTHING to anyone outside USA?

After all their push for bluetooth LE and iBeacon stuff, this would make no sense. And really, who uses NFC anyway?

I'm not saying that NFC is Apple's whole plan, but there are places where NFC is very common. Last time I was in London I noticed that many places did use the technology at their registers because NFC is common in local bank cards. It is also widely adopted in Japan.

NFC could easily just be a piece of their plan for an all in one payment pie. If you're in a location that has NFC infrastructure, then you are all set. If you're in the United States, perhaps iBeacon or a similar technology will emerge to become the standard.

I'd just like to see the user be able to authorize a payment with their fingerprint and the phone could then recognize what communication route it would persue.

p.s. - I'm also hoping for 802.11ac

 

[Eddy Munn]

From MacRumors

Apple On Track for NFC-Enabled iPhone in 2012?
Next-Generation iPhone Prototypes Reportedly Support NFC for Mobile Payments
iPhone 5 May Get NFC Payments After All?
iPhone 5S to Include Both Fingerprint Sensor and NFC?

Yep, it's coming.

 

[VulchR]

NFC? Zzzzzzzzzzz. I have it on my credit card, and I have never been able to use it in my corner of the world.

 

[Tech198]

Which is wide open to theft and corruption! That's the ENTIRE reason NFC is made so the amount you can spend is severely capped, plus it saves a lot of battery power by just having to swipe your phone across a reader as opposed to several feet away. Plus your iPhones battery could be chewed quickly up if you walk around an airport and it's WiFi is being used plus it's iBeacon being used etc.

ok, if its so corrupted, then why did Apple go with this ?

They even used it at a baseball game, or some other sporting event, as good technology..

You don't just toss out new/recent technology that just doesn't work, you fix it..

Besides. Apple wouldn't introduce iBeacon without knowing that its super secure... Apple knows better than to offer weak security...

This would mean the iBeacons Apple has in their stores for easy payment can all be got at.

I don't believes that... Apple knows better.

 

[apolloa]

Not that much of a surprise. History is full of examples of Apple dissing something, that they later sell themselves.

As for NFC, it never seemed likely that Apple would implement it until they could figure out a way to get a cut of every transaction.

This! this is Apples business model in most situations, they just sell it to their customers as 'being different' or 'doing it right', when in actual fact it is just Apple have worked out how to maximise profits from it.
It's why sure it's tech is well built and different, it's marked up massively, but it's services are where it shows all it cares about is $$ above all else.

 

[mrxak]

Same exact rumor, every single year.

I'm sure there are people in Apple who are working with NFC, should it ever become a thing, but Apple no doubt has people working with all sorts of technologies. That doesn't mean they'll actually ever be included in a product.

 

[Trapezoid]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ooohhhhh how I REMEMBER READING SOOOO MANY posts on these very forums from members claiming NFC IS DEAD! IT IS USELESS TECHNOLOGY....

hahahahaha

Oh how the tables turn, Apple fans are special people

Welcome to the 21st century iPhone.

What does this have to do with apple fans? Your overjoyed reaction to this story is bizarre.

Has anyone who previously said nfc is useless now said its not? Such a strange way to react to this news.

 

[apolloa]

ok, if its so corrupted, then why did Apple go with this ?

They even used it at a baseball game, or some other sporting event, as good technology..

You don't just toss out new/recent technology that just doesn't work, you fix it..

Besides. Apple wouldn't introduce iBeacon without knowing that its super secure... Apple knows better than to offer weak security...

This would mean the iBeacons Apple has in their stores for easy payment can all be got at.

I don't believes that... Apple knows better.

NFC isn't broken and I also NEVER stated it is corrupted? You don't seem to understand it? You just swipe your device or card against a reader, that's it, you can set up a PIN if you CHOOSE to, but it is not REQUIRED.
That's why the pay amount is capped, so if someone steals your card or phone then they can't rack up massive bills plus when you report the theft your NFC account is instantly blocked, and you get the money back.

NFC also will continue to work for a while when your phones battery is dead.

I'm sorry but I would use NFC all the time for payments up to it's limit, soo much easier than chip and pin.

And as for Apple and weak security, I suggest you read up on Apples history on that one. If Apple cared about security it would have set pin numbers required for IAP's years ago, instead of only doing it after being sued and slandered in the international press...

 

[tmanto02]

YES!!!! I have been looking forward to this day!