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Apple Reportedly Interested in Obama Series if Netflix Fails to Clinch Content Deal With Former President

sean000 said:
I could, but you wouldn’t recognize them if you only watched Fox News. He made some inspiring speeches regarding things like diversity and marriage equality. Not stuff that plays well to the Fox crowd.
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I have good news: My cable system doesn't carry Fox News. I don't watch Fox News. I watch CNN. Now quote me some soaring Obama rhetoric, something memorable for the ages. Something everyone will immediately recognize as being an Obama classic. Surely I will recognize it.
 
Admiral said:
I have good news: My cable system doesn't carry Fox News. I don't watch Fox News. I watch CNN. Now quote me some soaring Obama rhetoric, something memorable for the ages. Something everyone will immediately recognize as being an Obama classic. Surely I will recognize it.
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Here are a few:

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

There’s not a liberal American and a conservative America – there’s the United States of America.
 
Admiral said:
I have good news: My cable system doesn't carry Fox News. I don't watch Fox News. I watch CNN. Now quote me some soaring Obama rhetoric, something memorable for the ages. Something everyone will immediately recognize as being an Obama classic. Surely I will recognize it.
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This seems like a really odd standard to apply here. The normal line of attack among those who don't like Obama is to say that he may have been a great speaker, but he didn't live up to the oratory in concrete actions. But, if you want one signature Obama speech, I would point to his eulogy in Charleston after the mass shooting there. I don't know about others, but it moved me to tears, particularly when he started singing Amazing Grace at the end.


Full text of speech.
 
What I'm saying is that Obama's speeches as President were quite jejune and unremarkable. You can't name a memorable line from any of them because there was no there there. Obama was incapable of inspiration because he is, at heart, a fraud.
 
Admiral said:
What I'm saying is that Obama's speeches as President were quite jejune and unremarkable. You can't name a memorable line from any of them because there was no there there. Obama was incapable of inspiration because he is, at heart, a fraud.
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So now you're including quantifiers. You should've mentioned that in your original request. It's obviously no matter what is posted you're going to make excuses to dismiss it. Just admit, you're biased and you don't want to acknowledge that Obama has had rememberable speeches.
 
Admiral said:
What I'm saying is that Obama's speeches as President were quite jejune and unremarkable. You can't name a memorable line from any of them because there was no there there. Obama was incapable of inspiration because he is, at heart, a fraud.
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I'm curious. If you think that Obama's speeches were "unremarkable" and that he is "incapable of inspiration," which recent president's speeches were better, in your view?
 
villicodelirant said:
Well, working class Americans are civilized people who inhabit the planet Earth, so, yeah, I'd think that the extinction of an entire family of mammals was a legitimate concern to them.

Either that, or they don't qualify as civilized, and this comes from a man who despises the disdain the modern, college-educated lefties from all over the world have for the working class.
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I get where you're coming from, but for middle America (you know, rural fly over states) making ends meet and providing a quality of life for your family is much higher on the list of worries than elephant ivory.
 
missbing said:
So now you're including quantifiers. You should've mentioned that in your original request. It's obviously no matter what is posted you're going to make excuses to dismiss it. Just admit, you're biased and you don't want to acknowledge that Obama has had rememberable speeches.
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Here, let me help you. From my original comment (emphasis added):

Admiral said:
Can you name a single inspiring phrase or hook from any of Obama's speeches as President? Even one? From where I'm sitting, the only memorable thing Obama ever said in eight years as President was "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period." And that turned out to be a colossal lie. Could you quote your favorite?
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I note that nobody has yet been able to come up with anything at all from his speeches.
 
Admiral said:
I have good news: My cable system doesn't carry Fox News. I don't watch Fox News. I watch CNN. Now quote me some soaring Obama rhetoric, something memorable for the ages. Something everyone will immediately recognize as being an Obama classic. Surely I will recognize it.
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Ultimately I care more about what a President does (or helps others accomplish) rather than what they say in their public appearances. That said the role of President is the most visible role in government, so public speaking is a part of the job that serves a number of purposes.

Obama had some moments as a speaker, and his farewell was nicely done. It addressed the fact that we live in an era when an African American can finally be President, while also alluding to the fact that there is still work to be done to replace intolerance with acceptance.

  • I think his "Yes we can" speech is the most recognizable, but that's from his victory speech (although he delivered an update of it for his farewell speech).
  • "We choose hope over fear. We see the future not as something out of our control, but as something we can shape for the better through concerted and collective effort." (UN Gen. Assembly 2014)
  • "No matter who you are or what you look like, how you started off, or how and who you love, America is a place where you can write your own destiny." -on Marriage Equality in 2015.
  • "It is you, the young and fearless at heart, the most diverse and educated generation in our history, who the nation is waiting to follow." Selma 50th anniversary in 2015
  • "The long sweep of America has been defined by forward motion, a constant widening of our founding creed to embrace all and not just some." (again from his farewell address)

Bill Clinton was probably the best public speaker we have had as President in recent decades. I suppose many would give that honor to Reagan, but my dislike of his policies prevents me from giving him credit for much more than his ability to play the role well. Neither Bush was a very good speech giver.

And then we have Trump. I doubt Trump will ever be able to pull off a genuine heartfelt sounding speech. I cringe whenever he tries to sound like he has an ounce of empathy for others. He will be much more remembered for his lies, insults, hissyfits, bigoted comments, and sexist comments.
 
Zenithal said:
Oh, nah, he's quite brilliant. Once described himself as a "I'm like a Ph.D in litigation." I can't recall an administration that's been neck deep in so much legal drama from day one in office. I've been called a traitor on here because as a Republican I don't support Donald Trump. No, sorry, I don't respect, trust or support ********ers.

Wasn't aware I had to obey and offer blind support to every mongrel that runs for office under my party. Some of these bastards from the last 30 years need to be rounded up, sent to the desert and mine rock for 18 hours a day, sleep, and repeat.

Sames goes for dimwits in the DNC.
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I'm a pretty hardcore liberal, but much respect to you my friend, thank you. We'll need folks like you with their heads on straight if we're to come out of this and still have a country.
 
Kaibelf said:
Or maybe he wants high profile content from an incredibly popular figure?
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Every year? False. That was a one time bonus. A REAL benefit would have been a raise of 1000 a year or more, since a 15% tax cut was handed out. Did these people get a 15% pay boost as a result? No. They got a one time gift in the 2-3% range while the company cashes in perpetually. But thankfully for people who invest like myself the lion’s share is being diverted to dividends and buybacks so I benefit far more than any of the workers. It’s sad, and even sadder that people were happy to be duped so easily.

As for infrastructure, isn’t that Trump’s thing? I wonder if you prefer the 30k dinette set for Ben Carson’s office or the 100k+ office doors for Zinke?
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I AM already experiencing less taxes taken out of my paycheck WHICH IS MORE MONEY TO ME. Don't get me started on Democrat spending. #TBT to when The Clintons stole $200,000 worth of White House furniture.
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imronburgundy said:
Good get this out there. Can't wait for all the triggered people who will start calling for the boycott of Netflix, or Apple if this goes through.

Reality has a liberal bias.
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You know who also has a liberal bias? North Korea.
 
Zachari said:
I AM already experiencing less taxes taken out of my paycheck WHICH IS MORE MONEY TO ME. Don't get me started on Democrat spending. #TBT to when The Clintons stole $200,000 worth of White House furniture.
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You know who also has a liberal bias? North Korea.
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Note quite a true statement: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-stole-white-house-furniture/

Over the last 40 years Democrats have demonstrated far more fiscal responsibility than Republicans. When it comes to the Trickle-Down economics of the GOP, the spoils go to the wealthy and the largest of corporations. Republicans like to give modest tax cuts to the middle class from time to time, but they are temporary unsustainable cuts that always have a cost elsewhere. It's fraud, plain and simple:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2017/10/08/the-gop-is-a-deficit-fraud/#39deaa95263d
 
neliason said:
Who would want to watch that? Entertainment should be entertaining. If you want politics there is plenty of that content already.

I don’t really like Obama or his politics. I don’t want to give money to a company that promotes them. I can’t understand why Netflix or Apple would want to have such a show.
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Possibly because both Obamas are among the world's most admired people so whatever the content is --and it's clear from the cited piece that that's still under discussion-- the series of shows would have a vast audience. Audience ... means revenue...

Why should it be a problem for a company like Apple to invest in more than one type of product anyway?

Eastman Kodak put all its eggs in one basket, until one day they woke up and realized all they had left was some patents... and a seriously shrunken market... for the one big thing they were famous for, which was photographic film. They've had to struggle to be able to remake themselves since those days when they were too slow to see handwriting on walls.

In case you hadn't noticed, Apple has never waited to become a company famous for only one thing with a shrunken market. In fact people the past few years have even mentioned concerns over Apple's reliance on revenue from the iPhone, even when their advancement in tech for that product has remained strong. So... it's clear Apple hears that and is always exploring additional options.
 
sean000 said:
Note quite a true statement: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-stole-white-house-furniture/

Over the last 40 years Democrats have demonstrated far more fiscal responsibility than Republicans. When it comes to the Trickle-Down economics of the GOP, the spoils go to the wealthy and the largest of corporations. Republicans like to give modest tax cuts to the middle class from time to time, but they are temporary unsustainable cuts that always have a cost elsewhere. It's fraud, plain and simple:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2017/10/08/the-gop-is-a-deficit-fraud/#39deaa95263d
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Snopes? Don’t make me laugh.
 
Zachari said:
Snopes? Don’t make me laugh.
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I guess the best you can do is spout misinformation without presenting any factual evidence to back it up, and then cry"fake news" whenever a site like Snopes or Politifact debunks the fake news you are spreading. I find it fascinating that the same people who believe unsubstantiated rumors about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton refuse to think there is anything even slightly suspicious about our current president.
 
Hedwigg said:
And there you have it folks: reason to ignore any and all posts from Zachariah from this point forward.

Anytime someone tries to discredit Snopes, it’s just a sign of their extremism and irrational thinking. It’s sad, actually, to see someone behave so childishly.
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I like to find the facts for myself with research on all sides. Name calling won't get you anywhere.
 
Zachari said:
I like to find the facts for myself with research on all sides. Name calling won't get you anywhere.
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Snopes is a nonpartisan organization that does just that. I'm sorry that the truth has a liberal bias. And hilarious that you would make a statement against name calling:

Zachari said:
And Jesus Christ, liberals are some of the most racist people I know.
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Not to mention your incessant negativity implying that everything liberals believe is wrong. So... do you agree with the conservative that stated on Fox News today that John McCain wasn't a real war hero because "advanced interrogation techniques" "worked" on him, and that that's why they call him "Songbird John"? Or are you actually capable of admitting that not all conservatives are right all the time? Because if you can't admit that, there's literally no use in anybody talking to you about anything ever.
 
Hedwigg said:
Snopes is a nonpartisan organization that does just that. I'm sorry that the truth has a liberal bias. And hilarious that you would make a statement against name calling:



Not to mention your incessant negativity implying that everything liberals believe is wrong. So... do you agree with the conservative that stated on Fox News today that John McCain wasn't a real war hero because "advanced interrogation techniques" "worked" on him, and that that's why they call him "Songbird John"? Or are you actually capable of admitting that not all conservatives are right all the time? Because if you can't admit that, there's literally no use in anybody talking to you about anything ever.
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Lol are you triggered
 
Because it wasn’t enough to have 8 years of Obama on television interrupting our shows every time he had a thought.

Now they think we want to watch him more??? I was burned out 8 years ago.
 
flyinmac said:
Because it wasn’t enough to have 8 years of Obama on television interrupting our shows every time he had a thought.

Now they think we want to watch him more??? I was burned out 8 years ago.
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See, the way Netflix works is, you choose which programs/movies on the service you want to watch....
 
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