Apple Reportedly Launching 8 GB iPhone 5c Tomorrow

[Bregalad]

I think the only one complicating things is you. To answer your questions:

It certainly costs Apple less to produce the 5c. Plastic is cheaper than metal and glass, meanwhile the costs of the A6 chip would have dropped by now and the A5 stopped dropping in cost a long time ago.

I think you're trying too hard on the accounting cost one.... skipping it. Obviously questions Apple could answer.

A 5c would naturally be more appealing than a 4s. Newer, better performing, larger screen, etc. Was this a serious question?

The impact on Apple's high end models is negligible because no one in that market would consider an 8 GB phone.

No, the answers wouldn't change next month. However, they will continue to swing more and more in the 5c's favour. Following the discontinuation of the iPad 2, the only product that shares the same processor generation with the 4s is the Apple TV, which is due for an upgrade.

If the startup costs of the 5c haven't been written off it could, on paper at least, cost Apple more to produce than the 4S. The fact that the new 5c is priced $50 above the 4S lends weight to that argument. I would say today's introduction of the iPad 4 in place of the iPad 2 (something that could have happened the day the iPad Air was introduced) is further proof that it takes time for initial costs to be written down to the point where the newer product finally costs less to produce than an older one.

Appeal is a serious consideration. The 4S was a flagship phone whereas the 5c has never been anything better than second class. That's why 5c sales are so low in China. Nobody there who can afford an iPhone wants to be seen with a second tier product.

I was specifically thinking about cannibalization of 16GB iPhone 5c sales and the assumption that the price differential would be $100 rather than the $50 it turned out to be. Certainly some will now opt for $50 in their pocket instead of an extra 8GB of storage, but Apple is counting on the lower price attracting customers who would otherwise have purchased a different brand of phone.

 

[paradox00]

Appeal is a serious consideration. The 4S was a flagship phone whereas the 5c has never been anything better than second class. That's why 5c sales are so low in China. Nobody there who can afford an iPhone wants to be seen with a second tier product.

Only in your mind. It's a fact that the iPhone 5c is selling more units than the 4s did last year, when it was in the same position that the 5c is in now.

 

[numlock]

Only in your mind. It's a fact that the iPhone 5c is selling more units than the 4s did last year, when it was in the same position that the 5c is in now.

where is that being reported? and if so does that follow the increase apple is seeing yoy?

 

[paradox00]

where is that being reported? and if so does that follow the increase apple is seeing yoy?

Tim Cook conference call.

"But Cook's careful assessment seems to confirm that while the 5S is seeing extraordinary demand, the 5C may not yet be meeting Apple's lofty expectations. Cook said one bright spot was a "new to iPhone" development: the 5C isn't as popular as expected (at least relative to the 5S), but it's excelling at bringing new customers to iOS. It's also faring better than the 4S did when it occupied the middle slot of Apple's iPhone lineup."

Apple doesn't break down sales numbers by model, so yoy numbers can't be provided, but that hasn't stopped people from claiming the 5c to be a failure now, has it?

 

[iMcLovin]

What a pointless product to release now. I'm pretty sure the phone cost exactly the same to make as the 16gb. But 8 gb will just annoy those buying it. They should have just lowered the price of 16 gb not introduce a new old phone. The price difference is so small anyway...Guess I don't understand apple these days.

Either give people a real bargain or stick with the premium products to premium prices. IMO

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

*Yawn*

 

[numlock]

Tim Cook conference call.

"But Cook's careful assessment seems to confirm that while the 5S is seeing extraordinary demand, the 5C may not yet be meeting Apple's lofty expectations. Cook said one bright spot was a "new to iPhone" development: the 5C isn't as popular as expected (at least relative to the 5S), but it's excelling at bringing new customers to iOS. It's also faring better than the 4S did when it occupied the middle slot of Apple's iPhone lineup."

Apple doesn't break down sales numbers by model, so yoy numbers can't be provided, but that hasn't stopped people from claiming the 5c to be a failure now, has it?

he also said they were very wrong in how they they thought the sales would split between the c and the s but until actual data is released theories will run rampant however true or false.

 

[paradox00]

he also said they were very wrong in how they they thought the sales would split between the c and the s but until actual data is released theories will run rampant however true or false.

"It was the first time we ever ran that play, and demand percentage turned out to be different than we thought"

Saying "very wrong" is putting words in his mouth. We'll never get the sales split, or what Apple's estimates were. You're right, theories will run rampant without the split. Oh well. My comment was targeted at people who treat those theories as facts. Funny that my comment required verification, yet people don't even care to verify their own assumed facts.

 

[numlock]

"It was the first time we ever ran that play, and demand percentage turned out to be different than we thought"

Saying "very wrong" is putting words in his mouth. We'll never get the sales split, or what Apple's estimates were. You're right, theories will run rampant without the split. Oh well. My comment was targeted at people who treat those theories as facts. Funny that my comment required verification, yet people don't even care to verify their own assumed facts.

well this is the source

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-has-been-a-disaster/articleshow/32210462.cms

... the mix was something very different than we thought. It was the first time we'd ever run that particular play before, and demand percentage turned out to be different than we thought.

in my mind if you thought something would be very different than it turned out to be then you were very wrong.

i dont know if thats a misquote in that article but i have no interest or agenda to spread nonsense.

yeah those unsubstantiated rumors sadly create a rather volatile environment in places like this.

 

[paradox00]

well this is the source

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-has-been-a-disaster/articleshow/32210462.cms



in my mind if you thought something would be very different than it turned out to be then you were very wrong.

i dont know if thats a misquote in that article but i have no interest or agenda to spread nonsense.

yeah those unsubstantiated rumors sadly create a rather volatile environment in places like this.

The source I linked previously quoted Cook as saying "different", not "very different". I assumed you had gone off that since it was linked. I guess we'd need the raw audio to sort it out. Either way, "different" and "wrong" have different connotations, I wouldn't carelessly swap the two when quoting someone.

 

[numlock]

The source I linked previously quoted Cook as saying "different", not "very different". I assumed you had gone off that since it was linked. I guess we'd need the raw audio to sort it out. Either way, "different" and "wrong" have different connotations, I wouldn't carelessly swap the two when quoting someone.

of course the words are different. i can i should have worded my first post differently but the intention was definitely not to misquote tim cook. i also dont think i carelessly swapped the two.

i dont recall getting a "different" grade in school. its right or wrong and in this case if their projections turned out to be different then they certainly didnt do them right.