Possibly $0 on contract.
We don't live in USA, and not all of us want to be tied with a carrier for 24 months ....
I've never bought a subsidized phone in my life.
Possibly $0 on contract.
You also get a much worse user experience, plus all the tracking that comes with a Google service/device.350 maybe but not 450. You get Nexus 5 at much higher spec. For similar price. 350 should be the price of they really want sell as cheaper prepaid phone
Apple's price for storage upgrades aren't outrageous. Base price of closely-related hardware is: iPod Touch vs. base iPhone.If Apple's prices for storage upgrades weren't outrageous that wouldn't be a problem. Take down the price to what retail SD cards cost and they'd sell lots of upgraded phones.
Especially as they cut the base version from 16GB to 8GB!I hope they will get rid of iPhone 4S!!! It's so embarrassing to keep selling that 2-3 years old phone at a mid-range price.
What would make sense in having a smartphone (still) paid big bucks you can't actually use as such?I suppose a low storage option could be justified if you could actually chose iCloud as storage, not keeping any photos locally, just make them accessible through wifi and optionally/emeregency by cellular. That would make sense, so that the memory is only a "buffer" until you get home and the phone iClouds everything..
A new 8 GB model would allow Apple to bring the entry-level price for the iPhone 5c even lower, and while the capacity may not be enough for some users, many budget consumers may find it acceptable and Apple does currently offer an 8 GB iPhone 4s as its cheapest option in most countries.
Introducing an 8GB iPhone 5c would not, by itself, allow Apple to offer the phone at a lower price. In fact, as an isolated move, it's pure stupidity because making the product lineup more complicated, introducing more SKUs for inventory, etc. would cost more than the $5 they might save by using 8GB of flash instead of 16GB.
However, if the 8GB 5c replaces the 4S the math quickly gets complicated.
- What does it cost Apple to make the 4S versus an 8GB 5c?
- What does Apple accounting say it costs to make the 4S versus the 5c? This can be very different than the actual cost because of amortization, depreciation, the length of supply contracts, etc.
- Would an 8GB 5c be more or less appealing than an 8GB 4S?
- Would it have a positive or negative impact on sales of the more expensive models?
- Would the answers to any of the above be different next month?
I'm not sure Apple even knows the answers, but they surely have much better estimates than any of us do.
Cuytus18894240 said:You also get a much worse user experience, plus all the tracking that comes with a Google service/device.
Apple's price for storage upgrades aren't outrageous. Base price of closely-related hardware is: iPod Touch vs. base iPhone.
Apple isn't in the business of selling money-losers.....
They'd lose what, roughly $50-75 per phone if they sold at $100 off-contract? That's nuts....not even Amazon would touch those margins.
I always said if they sold the 5C at $350 off-contract, it would've been perfect. As it stands having bought mine for $350 (with the early iPhone upgrade), I love it. It really is a nice device - very well made and comfortable.
An 8GB at $250 off-contract would be pretty great.
This is nothing new. For years now the 8 GB devices have been the ones to his this price point of $0 on contract.
The cost of manufacturing an iPhone also hasn't changed, even with new models over the years. Apple's decided profit margin has not changed either.
While I do agree with you, to some extent, that it is time for 8 GB to be replaced by 16 GB at their relevant price points, the problem is how the multiples effect the rest of the lineup......as you and I would expect, Apple has established it's $100 increments for doubling storage. This may be easy to cope with at 8 & 16 GB, but get up to 32, 64 and 128.....those levels are not ready to see the same $100 price reduction.
Therefor, the bottom has to suffer until the top can come down too.
I don't think such a move likely, but if they did it would presage a large drop in flagship prices too.Yes it would. I think the phone would sell like crazy at $250 -350 off contract, especially since T-Mobile and At&T have come out with their new price plans. But at those prices it may hurt the flagship iPhone sales.
iPod classic, and iPad 2 (until it is dropped), plus the 4 and 4s in emerging markets (assuming they aren't dropped).I guess it may save a little on consolidating everything on the Lightning connector format as opposed to the old 30-pin connector on the 4S - would that leave any Apple device still in production that uses that connector?
My prediction? The polycarbonate iPhone will not dead but it will always be the lowest, cheapest option with only 8GB of storage from this year on.
Is 8GB going to be enough though? After system files, that leaves only a bit over 5GB for apps and files. I'm a fairly light user but looking at my Usage in the Settings app, 8GB would not be comfortable.
16GB should be the minimum.
I think you are wrong about thinking iPhones are "awfully cheap" in U.S. Compared to the Europe,as far as I know those U.S. Prices are what you pay in addition to paying monthly contract fees.also add Tax to that.Yeah, that's based on US pricing models (the iPhone is awfully cheap in the US).
In the rest of the world (for example, Europe), the pricing is more like this:
€700: 16GB 5S, 32GB 5C
€600: 16GB 5C
€500: 8GB 5C
€400: 8GB 4S
So a €500 iPhone makes sense for Europe. It bridges the gap nicely.
Apple isn't in the business of selling money-losers.....
They'd lose what, roughly $50-75 per phone if they sold at $100 off-contract? That's nuts....not even Amazon would touch those margins.
I always said if they sold the 5C at $350 off-contract, it would've been perfect. As it stands having bought mine for $350 (with the early iPhone upgrade), I love it. It really is a nice device - very well made and comfortable.
An 8GB at $250 off-contract would be pretty great.
I know that, but an unlocked iPhone is $650 in the US, or about $700 with VAT included. That's 500, almost 200 cheaper than in Europe.I think you are wrong about thinking iPhones are "awfully cheap" in U.S. Compared to the Europe,as far as I know those U.S. Prices are what you pay in addition to paying monthly contract fees.also add Tax to that.
Whereas the European prices are the toral price you pay for the phone,without need to pay any monthly contract fee.
In the UK for example Apple sells iPhone 5s 16GB for £530 & iPhone 5c 16GB. For £470.thats the total price you pay for the phone,no monthly contract is attached to it.also tax is already included in that price.
The U.S equivalent of that pricing is when you buy the phone on contract,currently you can get the 16GB iPhone 5s for £30 plus £35 monthly payments on a 2 Years contract.(you get 500 minutes,unlimited Data and 5000 SMS included).
4s is free on all contracts for just £25 a month on 2 Years contract (same package as above).
yes,but you should also take into account that in US people get payed in Dollars not Euros / Pounds..so everything "appears" to be cheaper when you convert the price to the higher value Euro / Pounds.I know that, but an unlocked iPhone is $650 in the US, or about $700 with VAT included. That's 500, almost 200 cheaper than in Europe.
Yes it would. I think the phone would sell like crazy at $250 -350 off contract, especially since T-Mobile and At&T have come out with their new price plans. But at those prices it may hurt the flagship iPhone sales.
Strange. Networks in the UK are now selling this but Apple's online store doesn't list it!
if you are going to sink to the level of insults then back up your claims. shouldnt be too hard since it was clearly planned.
its desperate because this is the only thing apple can think of to lower the price which is why i mentioned they could as well start selling non working phones.
you are sure it would compromise? you have any real life experience to back that up? but that is some faith you have in apple and their skills in overcoming obstacles.
If Apple's prices for storage upgrades weren't outrageous that wouldn't be a problem. Take down the price to what retail SD cards cost and they'd sell lots of upgraded phones.
Probably the only intelligent post in the thread. Not only has your assessment of your fellow forum members been accurate to a 'T', but they have also all decided to completely ignore your post and not even read the thread before posting themselves.
How and why is this treated as a surprise? It was old news 6 months ago...
Actually this is something new. 5c is the mid tier iPhone right now and Apple still sell the 4S as the cheapest option, $0 on contract.
In the past years, ONLY low tier iPhone dumbed down into 8GB storage. But now, 5C is only 6 months old and it's already downgraded.
Just shows how Apple regret of trying to sell it.
My prediction? The polycarbonate iPhone will not dead but it will always be the lowest, cheapest option with only 8GB of storage from this year on.
No one insulted you. But you really should read my post and try to comprehend it. As already said, Apple planned in advance to keep the 4S around for a limited time, rather than offering the 5c at 8 GB from the start, and it was due to some distribution channel factors that are over your head. I'm not digging 9 month old articles up for you, you can waste your own time on that.