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Not true at all - their margins have been dropping for quite some time with the dominance of Android and cheap alternatives flooding the market. Why do you think AAPL struggles? Apple sells more phones each quarter than the last w/ higher revenues, yet their profits remain flat.

Apple no longer enjoys the 40+% margins they used to....and they know it. They have to find ways to sell more phones to meet the profit demands (from a monetary standpoint).

LOl yes. Hence the word "desired" ;)
 
I had to free up space on my mom's 16GB 4S just to make room for the 7.1 update. I myself have about 10-12 GB left on my 64GB devices. I can't imagine in this day and age trying to make it work with an 8GB phone. Especially when you're not even getting the full 8 gee bees but instead about 5 1/2.

What they need to do is introduce a 64GB 5c. And why not a 128GB 5s?
 
At $350-$450 the 5c might sell like hotcakes in prepaid-dominated markets.
 
well sometimes what has been established has to be torn down for something new to begin.

both the ipads offer 4 different storage capacities and $100 increment between each one so if it can be done there then why not iphone? the memory in the ipad is reported to range from $9-$60 (16-124) so there is definitely room.

offer users the chance to add their own storage space.

the world is not as limited as apologists (not saying you) want to make it out to be.

i just find this a desperate half assed kinda move.



lack of profits are certainly not stopping apple funding r&d. but if you think they are suffering im sure they would accept a monthly check from you.

Well I can't help your lack of understanding that makes you think its a desperate move (which its not, it was clearly planned over a year ago). But I will say I firmly believe removable storage is a bad idea. Speaking ambiguously, I'm sure it would compromise the overall build/construction of the devices we're used it....and speaking quite literally there is no good way to manage this "user added storage".

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I had to free up space on my mom's 16GB 4S just to make room for the 7.1 update. I myself have about 10-12 GB left on my 64GB devices. I can't imagine in this day and age trying to make it work with an 8GB phone. Especially when you're not even getting the full 8 gee bees but instead about 5 1/2.

What they need to do is introduce a 64GB 5c. And why not a 128GB 5s?

Those devices would have to be in demand in order for Apple to build them. They would both be so expensive relative to what they are, that carriers wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft. pole, unless Apple had the confidence in their demand to actually make them.

If Apple wantonly made such devices just in case someone wanted them, it would cause problems with carriers, as they would not be game for subsidizing such expensive devices that are so low in demand.

In fact, demand might not even be a factor at all. Carrier's were likely scared off the 64 GB price point for a while (which explains why it took until the 4S for it to appear), and are likely unwilling to take on a 128 GB iPhone.
 
That's just it, though. The price difference between 8GB and 16GB flash is a couple bucks. There's no reason this should lower the price perceptibly at all.

You're completely right, but the current pricing structure already doesn't reflect this reality, so I'm sure the 8GB model will be priced lower by some arbitrary amount. Probably not $100 as is the current scheme, but even a $50 drop would make a difference.
 
You guys do realize they aren't going to sell it below iPod Touch's $329 figure? :rolleyes:
It's coming for $450 without contract, take it or leave it.

Or simply drop iPod Touch and price 8GB iPhone 5C at iPod Touch level

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Still selling, yes, Should it be selling so much? I have no idea why people would buy something with so little space. The 5C is already free on many carriers.

Problem is that you are bonded with carrier's term contract. It is not really cheap in the long run.. You ended up paying lots more with outright and you have the flexibility of aerator carrier if you wish so. I think iPhone 5C 8G is more likely to sell people who does not have lots of budget and still want no contract.
 
The 4 and 4s models will be discontinued if this is true. But 8GB is a little bit too tight.

They don't still sell the 4 do they?

I could see this replacing the 4s though. Then (when the time rolls around ) they'd get less people complaining less when they can't upgrade the 4s they only bought a few years ago...

Gary
 
Or simply drop iPod Touch and price 8GB iPhone 5C at iPod Touch level

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Problem is that you are bonded with carrier's term contract. It is not really cheap in the long run.. You ended up paying lots more with outright and you have the flexibility of aerator carrier if you wish so. I think iPhone 5C 8G is more likely to sell people who does not have lots of budget and still want no contract.

In all seriousness its not a problem at all. You pay the subsidy, and agree to stay for the 2 years. I don't need a new phone every 3 months or yearly. Also, If you are making a payment plan, still an agreement. So.. I would rather pay the subsidy, if I already plan on sticking with the carrier for the term, not to mention the ETF is almost nothing after the first year, if I choose to leave. So , really not an issue for most.

The 8GB 5c is on the other hand.
 
Well I can't help your lack of understanding that makes you think its a desperate move (which its not, it was clearly planned over a year ago). But I will say I firmly believe removable storage is a bad idea. Speaking ambiguously, I'm sure it would compromise the overall build/construction of the devices we're used it....and speaking quite literally there is no good way to manage this "user added storage"

if you are going to sink to the level of insults then back up your claims. shouldnt be too hard since it was clearly planned.

its desperate because this is the only thing apple can think of to lower the price which is why i mentioned they could as well start selling non working phones.

you are sure it would compromise? you have any real life experience to back that up? but that is some faith you have in apple and their skills in overcoming obstacles.
 
Probably 479, but a dime over that and it's going to fail worse than 5c 16gb, and get Apple terrible backlash anyway.

It's just an optimization in their production chain: the iPhone 4S was totally different from other products.
Now they are using many common components ....

iPhone 4S is quite an old smartphone, and it is still sold. iPhone 5C at a similar price couldn't be worse than that.
 
350 maybe but not 450. You get Nexus 5 at much higher spec. For similar price. 350 should be the price of they really want sell as cheaper prepaid phone

A lot of people however, are looking to get into the Apple ecosystem and specs on an 5c are not bad for $450. However $350 would really get them taking off you are correct there.

For many of these markets the only thing keeping Apple from selling more is not specs but starting price for their phones.
 
I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it again here. This is a great introductory product for someone switching a simple flip phone who mainly uses their phone for texting, phone calls, and the basics, who doesn't have a lot of music and only uses a handful of apps. It's not targeted towards the majority. And if it's free on contract, that makes it even better for those people.
 
Drop the 4s and replace it with an 8GB 5c at the same price?

It's the only way they're going to boost sales.
 
Carrier's were likely scared off the 64 GB price point for a while (which explains why it took until the 4S for it to appear), and are likely unwilling to take on a 128 GB iPhone.
If Apple's prices for storage upgrades weren't outrageous that wouldn't be a problem. Take down the price to what retail SD cards cost and they'd sell lots of upgraded phones.
 
For those (most) who are unaware....the reports going back PRIOR to the September 2013 launch stated quite clearly the 4S would remain as the $0 / 8 GB device in the lineup for a limited period of time, some even stated until early 2014....so this is falling right in line with what was planned almost a year ago...

Figured I'd post that since I'm sure most forum members will act like this is some act of desperation on Apple's part (as Macrumors and other site authors already have).

Probably the only intelligent post in the thread. Not only has your assessment of your fellow forum members been accurate to a 'T', but they have also all decided to completely ignore your post and not even read the thread before posting themselves.

How and why is this treated as a surprise? It was old news 6 months ago...
 
I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it again here. This is a great introductory product for someone switching a simple flip phone who mainly uses their phone for texting, phone calls, and the basics, who doesn't have a lot of music and only uses a handful of apps. It's not targeted towards the majority. And if it's free on contract, that makes it even better for those people.

500$ for a "basic use" ? Well ....

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If Apple's prices for storage upgrades weren't outrageous that wouldn't be a problem. Take down the price to what retail SD cards cost and they'd sell lots of upgraded phones.

Apple's prices for storage upgrades are not so different from many other manufacturer ....

You can't compare them to SD cards cost, since last time I checked sd cards didn't use ddr3
 
I hope they will get rid of iPhone 4S!!! It's so embarrassing to keep selling that 2-3 years old phone at a mid-range price.

iPhone 5c 16GB should have been replaced the 4S
 
Do not buy.

Made the mistake of buying the 8gb Iphone 4 for my wife, it is now nearly completely useless, especially with iCloud/photostreams having literally no options to control(except turning it off) The phone has barely any apps and can now save 200ish pictures to the camera roll..

I suppose a low storage option could be justified if you could actually chose iCloud as storage, not keeping any photos locally, just make them accessible through wifi and optionally/emeregency by cellular. That would make sense, so that the memory is only a "buffer" until you get home and the phone iClouds everything..
 
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