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Apple Reportedly Launching Updated iMacs with Faster Processors Next Week

I hope no more 1TB HDD base model. I vote 1 TB Fusion drive as the base vs 256 GB SSD
 
I was expecting this....I hope it will have Nvidia 880m GPU.
Makes sense they didn´t mention it on WWDC, whats there to mention, it just a regular speedbump.

Looking forward to purchase an update. :)

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Guess if these rumors are true, user: Saint.Icon deserves a "told you so!" ;) iMac refresh now, unless apple has plans to add retina or a redesign, makes sense, and iPhone on WWDC did not...
 
Kind of a meager update but given Broadwell's delay I 'm not totally surprised.
 
lostngone said:
??? If the rumors are true it is more then just a processor bump.
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The rumors are claiming that it will be a small processor bump, TB 2, and a price drop. If that is what you would call "more", then sure, but still not keynote worthy.
 
Cooee! said:
I hope no more 1TB HDD base model. I vote 1 TB Fusion drive as the base vs 256 GB SSD
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Exactly. 100 MHz speed bump? Meh. These things are held back by last century's drive technology. Fusion drive should be minimum, with SSD options at the higher end.
 
iZac said:
Warning: slightly off topic rant ahead:

It seems Apple is getting China as a 'growth market' all wrong.

Admittedly all I have is my anecdotal evidence rather than a team of highly paid professional market researchers, however in my experience the kind of Chinese consumers that buy Apple products don't want the cheapest option.

As we know, the wealth gap in China along with many developing nations is vast, but the Apple brand is basically seen as a status symbol among the aspirational middle class that can reach this spending bracket. It's actually cheaper and more useful than buying an LV bag that proves 'they've made it'. Furthermore, the attitude is an ‘all or nothing’ approach and people are acutely aware of their peers impression of them and the ‘luxury’ products they consume. The average (Shanghainese) consumer see's a 5C as an embarrassment that they couldn’t afford the 5S – or that they're too stupid or poorly connected to buy it from Hong Kong where it’s 20% cheaper.

As some anecdotal evidence, in a city of 24 million people, I’ve not seen more than a few dozen people using the 5C and hundreds or thousands using 5/5S. In comparison I went back to London for a week recently and saw more 5C models in that 7 days than I have in nearly a year in Shanghai.

Furthermore the average ‘poor’ family in urban China probably has a lot more cash wealth than an equivalent western family. That’s because the social healthcare is so bad here that families need to save money for potentially massive unforeseen medical bills in the future from inexperienced and incompetent doctors. It's the only reason why the percentage of their salary that they save is far excess of Westerners.

Similarly, next to nobody buys Apple desktops in China because they can’t show them off like they can a laptop. In addition they all run Windows anyway because no one will bother to learn how to use OSX and many online transaction and banking websites still require XP to run some some dodgy .exe files.

In closing - a cheap iMac will never sell well in China if there is better Retina model available.
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In the past, Apple has marketed their budget iMacs for educational purposes. This has worked pretty well for them, and I'm pretty sure that is their goal if they do it again this year. I'm sure your point is valid in some respects, but a Chinese market is not the target for a budget iMac.

Matt
 
wizard said:
this is certainly part of the problem! They didn't even cover everything new for developers
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The keynote was just where they announced new features. A welcome session.

But WWDC also had over 1,000 Apple engineers available to developers for FIVE DAYS

Take a look at the schedule... hundreds of sessions and labs:

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/

That's where they covered everything... not the keynote.
 
That's all well and good but seriously WTF is going on with the Mac Mini and AppleTV

I mean Seriously!!!!
 
There will not be a Retina display/4k until Broadwall at the earliest. Definitely in the works, but the price is still too high.
 
simonmet said:
That's all well and good but seriously WTF is going on with the Mac Mini and AppleTV

I mean Seriously!!!!
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The ATV has always just been a pet project at Apple, so they aren't really rushed to announce a new one.

The Mac Mini will have a Broadwell release. The Mac Mini was not updated in 2013 because it uses the exact same processor as the MacBook Pro lineup. This is important because Haswell was almost entirely devoted to improving battery life at the cost of performance. The Mini would have seen little to no improvement with a 2013 refresh, so why do it? Sure, the iMac was updated even though it isn't a laptop, but it has a discreet graphics card and a desktop class processor. Even if Apple had released a 2013 Mini, there would be zero reason to buy it over the 2012 model. Apple could not have predicted such a delay with Broadwell, but really it would have been a complete waste of money to do a refresh in 2013.

Matt
 
Touchscreen

I think they are coming out with a Touchscreen iMac in the fall, all the changes in Mavericks seem geared towards that.
 
Release day

There's a note at the end of the article that says that a reader who was supposed to receive his 27" iMac on June 12 received an email postponing delivery to June 18. That's one week from today, which to me suggests an announcement on Tuesday, June 17. That's in line with what Apple usually does.

In any case, I'm in the market for an iMac, so I've been waiting for this minor refresh. Even though performance will only be marginally improved, I'd like to see what Apple does with pricing and what GPUs they offer.
 
SoAnyway said:
The news of new iMacs has been lingering around for weeks now. At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

Besides, my 27" 2011 iMac supped up to the max is still serving me quite well. At this point, the next Mac I want is a Mac Pro with a 4k display.
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Mid-2011 27" here myself. Here's what I'd need to justify an upgrade, which I expect may take up to 30 months to exist:

  • DDR4 memory
  • 64GB max memory
  • 1TB PCI-E SSD option, preferably a 2TB PCI-E SSD option
  • Hi-DPI display. 5120x2880 would be nice.
  • Thunderbolt 3.x (I assume), or something otherwise capable of driving a second Hi-DPI display (have a 27" LED Cinema Display with the current 27").
  • Current generation high-end mobile GPU.

When that exists, I buy.
 
malexandria said:
I think they are coming out with a Touchscreen iMac in the fall, all the changes in Mavericks seem geared towards that.
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No chance. There's zero touch optimisation in Mavericks & Yosemite!

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mrfoof82 said:
Mid-2011 27" here myself. Here's what I'd need to justify an upgrade, which I expect may take up to 30 months to exist:

  • DDR4 memory
  • 64GB max memory
  • 1TB PCI-E SSD option, preferably a 2TB PCI-E SSD option
  • Hi-DPI display. 5120x2880 would be nice.
  • Thunderbolt 3.x (I assume), or something otherwise capable of driving a second Hi-DPI display (have a 27" LED Cinema Display with the current 27").
  • Current generation high-end mobile GPU.

When that exists, I buy.
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What you are looking for is called a Mac Pro.
 
I know this has already been said here, but it bears repeating:

What is the true advantage of a Retina display at current processor/memory specs?

I'm running a fully bumped up 2013 iMac with 32GB RAM & 3TB Fusion, and pushing a lot of photography through it with a 2nd 27 inch display.
It's doing fine, but it's also somewhere near it's limit some days. The current display is incredible and I'd be very wary of pushing a retina display if the back end can't handle it.

Unless there is enough graphics power and processor power, the iMac is probably going to need more than a mid-cycle speed bump to run retina.

Ask yourself this: Does a retina iMac sound like a good idea? Is a retina iMac actually necessary, even at the cost of performance?

I'm sure Apple have got this, but not sure if there's really (really?) any true advantage for most uses.
 
Roller said:
There's a note at the end of the article that says that a reader who was supposed to receive his 27" iMac on June 12 received an email postponing delivery to June 18. That's one week from today, which to me suggests an announcement on Tuesday, June 17. That's in line with what Apple usually does.

In any case, I'm in the market for an iMac, so I've been waiting for this minor refresh. Even though performance will only be marginally improved, I'd like to see what Apple does with pricing and what GPUs they offer.
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Thanks Matt. The thing is though that the current Mac Mini's graphics are rubbish. Was there no update to integrated graphics last year? I know a lot of people that are hanging out for a Mac Mini update but I really can't recommend the current Mini to anyone (well other than server needs).

At the very least the Mini needs some form of Iris graphics, which, correct me if I'm wrong, have been out for a while now? So I really don't get the delay. But then I don't follow Intel closely enough to know what's going on and why Apple haven't updated the Mini.

It's just if people want to drive a 27" Thunderbolt Display the graphics in the Mini are its biggest weakness and I would've thought it'd be a higher priority to improve than Apple seems to be making it. I would like to see it get a decent discreet graphics chip (even a mobile one) but I know that's just wishful thinking. It's not like there isn't still a gaping chasm between the Mini and the Mac Pro in the headless Mac space. Even thought he Mac Pro shrank substantially in physical dimensions it didn't shrink the gap as far as price and performance goes!

Apple have shown they can get what they want when they want it (see new Mac Pro) so I still don't get it.
 
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malexandria said:
I think they are coming out with a Touchscreen iMac in the fall, all the changes in Mavericks seem geared towards that.
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Not going to happen. The closest you'll maybe get even slightly close to that is the possibility of a touch keyboard/trackpad interface.

Otherwise, just buy a Wacom Cintiq if you need touch.

Neither Mavericks or Yosemite are optimised for touch. Gestures, maybe, but not touch.
 
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