Why?I don't want Apple to be in bed with the NFL or FIFA (or the IOC for that matter) in any capacity whatsoever.
Why?I don't want Apple to be in bed with the NFL or FIFA (or the IOC for that matter) in any capacity whatsoever.
You're kidding, right? More like $100 a month, for each of those. And that's counting todays price with Directv, which actually has a distribution channel that can handle the traffic and not eat up everyone's data cap!Right now I pay $30 per month for Apple One Premium. I will gladly pay $10 extra for both. Heck, I can pay $15!
The price would go up a LOT, so they'd probably lose more than they would gain.While I think it would be a separate channel, how many more subs would they get if they made it part of ATV+?
But Jimmy Iovine is fineI don't want Apple to be in bed with the NFL or FIFA (or the IOC for that matter) in any capacity whatsoever.
NFL game pass is $279 for an entire season. Apple is not charging $100 per month.You're kidding, right? More like $100 a month, for each of those. And that's counting todays price with Directv, which actually has a distribution channel that can handle the traffic and not eat up everyone's data cap!
Your DTV bill may be $100 a month (sounds low for DTV) but thats not the cost for Sunday TicketYou're kidding, right? More like $100 a month, for each of those. And that's counting todays price with Directv, which actually has a distribution channel that can handle the traffic and not eat up everyone's data cap!
lol who is going to pay MLS $10 a month when your suggested fee for UEFA is $5 a month? Thats like charging G-League $10 per month while charging NBA $5 per month.It won’t be part of Apple TV+. These will be Apple TV Channels. Separate fee. Confirmed with the MLS deal.
Makes sense to not bloat the monthly fee of ATV+ with sports content that many people don’t want.
I’d like to see Apple One subscribers get a discount on the channels though, and maybe Premier subscribers get Champions League for free.
Though my guess is:
MLS: $10/month or $80/yr
NFL: $300/yr or $75/month
UEFA: $5/month
Game Pass has game replays (sans preseason), not live NFL games. NFL Sunday Ticket is what your thinking of which is around $300-400 depending on which plan you purchase.NFL game pass is $279 for an entire season. Apple is not charging $100 per month.
I think it all depends on the price. I am sure you would lose some of those subscribers who like the content and low price and dont need sports. Not sure if the gains they would get by raising the ATV+ would offset those who would leave.While I think it would be a separate channel, how many more subs would they get if they made it part of ATV+?
Don’t hold your breath for 4K. Apple won’t be producing the content themselves but rather just streaming the feeds from the networks actually broadcasting the games. So if Fox is broadcasting in 720p or 1080p, that’s what it will be on Sunday Ticket.Please be true, I would pay anything to have the NFL in 4K across all games. Current cable box/Sunday Ticket displaying 720p is embarrassing.
Unlikely, Microsoft and the NFL renewed their partnership back in 2020, I don't know for how many years, they just say "multi-year expansion", the previous contract was, I believe, five years.I can imagine that this will change the MS surface in the games for iPads.
MLS is exclusive rights to every game including playoffs. UEFA is 2 tournaments that are mostly simulcast on Spanish networks for free.lol who is going to pay MLS $10 a month when your suggested fee for UEFA is $5 a month? Thats like charging G-League $10 per month while charging NBA $5 per month.
That will be fun to watch, an Apple service that promotes their direct competition.Unlikely, Microsoft and the NFL renewed their partnership back in 2020, I don't know for how many years, they just say "multi-year expansion", the previous contract was, I believe, five years.
Also last season the UEFA tournaments where in Paramount+ with all the other content they offer. The format and schedule makes it hard to be a separate service.MLS is exclusive rights to every game including playoffs. UEFA is 2 tournaments that are mostly simulcast on Spanish networks for free.
The number of games between the two is not comparable.
And the market is much bigger for champions league/Europa league meaning a lower entry price can be justified when magnitudes more people will pay for it. MLS will have fewer subscribers thus requiring a higher fee for Apple to profit.
Lastly, it’s tournament vs. league. Your bad comparison is league vs. league. I’d be happy to be wrong and MLS ends up being $5 a month, but it doesn’t matter since I’ll get it for free as a season ticket holder anyways.
Perhaps game pass international is different but game pass international is live games for all 32 teams and that is $279.Game Pass has game replays (sans preseason), not live NFL games. NFL Sunday Ticket is what your thinking of which is around $300-400 depending on which plan you purchase.
Not enough to justify spending $3 billion/yr on it but it’s fun to dream.While I think it would be a separate channel, how many more subs would they get if they made it part of ATV+?
Yes, they're different products. Game Pass International is only for outside the US, Canada and Mexico, in the UK it works with some blackouts because some games are broadcasted on Sky in the UK, but everywhere else it's every game live and on-demand, I think it includes the Thursday Night Game that's on Amazon Prime Video.Perhaps game pass international is different but game pass international is live games for all 32 teams and that is $279.
Not every month, of course, only the months when active. And I pay quite a bit more than the base $279. (there's different levels) I pay $395 a season and I'm assuming Apple will raise the price to recoup their cost.NFL game pass is $279 for an entire season. Apple is not charging $100 per month.
I hope that at least for the first year, they give Apple One subscribers a hefty discount, just to entice people to sign up for Apple One. Would make sense in the long run. They have deep enough pockets to severely undercut what DirecTV was charging, just to add subscribers for the first year.It won’t be part of Apple TV+. These will be Apple TV Channels. Separate fee. Confirmed with the MLS deal.
Makes sense to not bloat the monthly fee of ATV+ with sports content that many people don’t want.
I’d like to see Apple One subscribers get a discount on the channels though, and maybe Premier subscribers get Champions League for free.
Though my guess is:
MLS: $10/month or $80/yr
NFL: $300/yr or $75/month
UEFA: $5/month
I actually think Apple will charge less, maybe even significantly less, than DirecTV was charging, at least in the first year, just to make a splash and get more people to subscribe. I think adding subscribers is more important in the long run for them than actually making money off sports for the first few years. Apple probably just made 2 billion dollars in the time it took me to type this. I don't think they'd need to price it to recoup a loss at the expense of fewer subscribers.Not every month, of course, only the months when active. And I pay quite a bit more than the base $279. (there's different levels) I pay $395 a season and I'm assuming Apple will raise the price to recoup their cost.
While I think it would be a separate channel, how many more subs would they get if they made it part of ATV+?
I agree with this thinking, makes a lot of senseI think it'll be set up in reverse, with sports packages including "free" tv+
While I think it would be a separate channel, how many more subs would they get if they made it part of ATV+?