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Scott Forstall was the genius NEXT developer that really skyrocketed Apples OS X... Apple needs someone who has the fire to push things in a engineering winning strategy. I think Apple has gotten soft on that and allows for safe spaces in the codebase..

Did you work with Scott, or are you basing all this on hearsay?
 
Rock Solid, like a Marshmallow in a Swamp.
It's not clear to me that Mac things are fixable without a major OS feature dump and reimpementation.
 
Tim Cook’s decision to get rid of Scott Forstall was shortsight and stupid. Better collaboration my ass.

EXACTLY!

Forstall was a genius skipped a year in K12 graduated from pretty much the best of class in the best university. He helped sorry led and helped create the core kernel of the OS from the beginning.

Apple, dare I say it, NEEDS and deserves a very intelligent and strong willed individual in many of it's core divisions.

I still love iOS and how it's greatly improved over the years ... but I don't love the frequent bugs that are BIG misses.

example:
1. Apple announced iMessages over iCloud.
^ WHERE THE HELL is the sync between my S4 Watch+iOS+macOS+iCloud?! Why are deleted messages not sync'd fully to the S3/S4/S5 when it's set to sync with my iPhone?!
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Please fire every VP and also Senior VP Craig. Time to go.

Phil can stay ... he's been so faithful to Apple, their products, and to the fans and users. He bleeds 6 colours ... not chromatic Apple.
 
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That’s the point. There is no “problem”. There is always room for improvement, but there doesn’t have to be a “problem”.

I feel the same way ... yet with such huge overpaid executives and so much staff to the point of bloating ... the 'room for improvement' is not happening at a pace we'd love to see at Apple.

I LOVE:
AirPod Pros
iPhone,
HomePod - quality sound over my older Sonos Play:1 (and I trust Apple's approach to voice commands)
Mac Mini
MacBook Pro (2016-2019) Love this design.

Improvements:
Lower the huge stocks and bonus granted ... make the executives take HUGE cuts like their products have and us the users have over the years (limited functionality for a smart speaker, Siri still very limited vs competition, Mac Pro 2013-2018 need I mention more than the product name here(?), iOS 13 bugs). Make the execs really work for those huge bonuses not just direct those that are putting in the work, feverishly to meet deadlines.

iTunes on iOS needs to have a proper EQ - allow us to select EQ for Playlists, Genre's or even by artists!
AirPods' - needs a sort of EQ like Sony has: Full ANC when on public transit, Low/ANC-Off when running / walking with higher transparency or middle transparency, and full ANC + No Transparency when stationary ... make this automatic with some fine tuning!

iMessages on Apple Watch - STILL not in sync with my iPhone despite the controls in the Watch App stating it will. This is years behind and I'm just angry over it.
iMessages on Apple Watch - give me much smaller badge icon+count (like the background Now Playing app). I want to be notified of messages. Many are very personal and when I'm working or helping a user ... I don't want that user/supervisor/manager or others seeing and reading my wrist the message just received. Nor do I want it hidden completely and not know I've received a message until I've unveiled notification centre.
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That’s pure conjecture. Also Ive is not gone yet. He’s still listed on Apple’s leadership page. He was at the September event posing for photos with Cook.

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Hmm.

Did you notice the 'posing' of many of those photos ... especially of his last design directly as an employee at Apple; on how he postured and distance himself from Cook? Picture is worth a thousand words.

Sure there are pictures of them smiling together as well ... not much at the same event. They did a lot more at previous (after announcement launch) events.

No I don't Blame Jony for issues with products at Apple. Thin was heavily needed to be very competitive. He was the liveblood of Apple as much as Steve and many others since the TAM! An LCD desktop computer 11yrs before the competition and rivalled all laptops in it's display for at least 5yrs.

Jony will still work with Apple into the future so we'll be good for great designed products :D
 

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Overhauling eh ? Will we shall see what that brings ... It's supposed to sound good everything you see this, but "Apple are finally acknowledging something"

But the problem is, "they keep saying it over and over" with no action. Proof is evidence.
 
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Some people here are arguing for less frequent macOS releases, for instance each 18 to 24 months instead of every year. I'm not sure it's a good idea. I already find it frustrating that many iOS features are absent from the macOS platform (e.g. the iMessage app is very poor and minimal on Mac). I would hate to see even less efforts on macOS, and I spend much more time on my computer than on my phone.

I understand there's no magic solution. But let's hope these bugs won't stand in the way of progress.

iMessage doesn't need to part of the OS; it is just an application that could be distributed and updated via the Apple Store at a different rate to the base operating system. Same applies for much of the user-visible elements – mainly excluding Finder.
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They've lost focus of their core business and are busy with non essential things.

... like running radio stations, producing television shows and trying to make cars. I wish they would spin off "Apple Computer" to run itself whilst Tim & friends continue to build whatever corporation they're trying to create.
 
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This is a good and much needed change. Apple should release new features only when they are ready instead of packing them into larger updates that are full of bugs.

Rolling updates are better IMO. Every 4 weeks, release a new version, if a feature is ready, then include it, if not, it goes into the next release.

Stop this rush of squeezing so much into a single big update.

When a model can no longer support such feature, call it a major release number to break comparability, ie iOS 14.

But so long as every device will work with said features, keep incrementing iOS 13. 13.1, 13.2, ... 13.10

heck, even a 4 week release with no features could be used to make performance or batter life improvements.
 
Hmm.

Did you notice the 'posing' of many of those photos ... especially of his last design directly as an employee at Apple; on how he postured and distance himself from Cook? Picture is worth a thousand words.

Sure there are pictures of them smiling together as well ... not much at the same event. They did a lot more at previous (after announcement launch) events.

No I don't Blame Jony for issues with products at Apple. Thin was heavily needed to be very competitive. He was the liveblood of Apple as much as Steve and many others since the TAM! An LCD desktop computer 11yrs before the competition and rivalled all laptops in it's display for at least 5yrs.

Jony will still work with Apple into the future so we'll be good for great designed products :D
I don’t see what you see in those photos.
 
Isn't this the same rhetoric that they said after iOS 11 of iOS 12? Isn't this the same rhetoric that they said after iOS 8 of iOS 9? How about OS X Yosemite of OS X El Capitan, or macOS Mojave of macOS High Sierra? Or OS X Mountain Lion of Mac OS X Lion? Despite achieving tremendous success and reverence with Mac OS X Snow Leopard, they fail to understand why that release was so good (namely, it was in the oven for longer than a year and didn't introduce any disruptive and/or buggy changes).
 
You mean the TAM? It shipped in 1997. I'm sure there were other LCD desktops before 2008.

have a look not many in the desktop space using LCDs 1997 still had many cathode ray based desktop screens shipping.Heck look at the first iMac ... cathode ray screen not an LCD and that was what 2001?
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I don’t see what you see in those photos.

posture ... but your perception will be different form mine of course.
 
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That’s pure conjecture. Also Ive is not gone yet. He’s still listed on Apple’s leadership page. He was at the September event posing for photos with Cook.

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As of today, it's confirmed that he's completely left Apple.
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And why did it take them this long to see their Butterfly keyboard is bad ?
And why did it take them this long to see people want more than 16GB ?
And why did it take them this long to see people need more horsepower and vlid cooling ?

So why does it take them so long to do anything ?


I think it has a lot to do with the scale of their supply chain. Because they have to order things months if not years in advance, they have to wind down shipments of parts that they've already forecasted.
 
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BTW. I told you so. See my earlier posts - I noticed a quality downfall beginning with iOS 9.

What? This all started with iOS 7. Bugs introduced in 7 have STILL not been fixed. I lucked out and skipped it, but then I learned from fellow users on forums like this that the bugs I was reporting to Apple in iOS 9 were introduced in iOS 7. Out of the 50+ bugs I've reported, only one or two have been partially or completely addressed... in over SIX major releases.
 
The usual cheerleaders are in complete denial in this thread. With so many updates in a short span, clearly something is not right with their testing and deployment process. We’re not talking about Android, we’re talking about Apple, the ”it just works” company. iOS 13 is buggy as hell. I’m currently on the lastest version (13.2.3) and my iPhone is using massive cellular data for no apparent reason (listed under “Uninstalled Apps”). Very disappointed with this release.
 
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This thread is a real relief after seeing the fanatics on Apple Insider's forums. Though, there do seem to be three crazy anti-social-justice bros in here. Maybe they got lost on their way to AI forums...
 
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What? This all started with iOS 7. Bugs introduced in 7 have STILL not been fixed. I lucked out and skipped it, but then I learned from fellow users on forums like this that the bugs I was reporting to Apple in iOS 9 were introduced in iOS 7. Out of the 50+ bugs I've reported, only one or two have been partially or completely addressed... in over SIX major releases.
iOS 6 likely had some bugs that were present there from some earlier versions as well.
 
I agree with this statement. My agreement is that the foundation, Unix, is much better, the UI is much better, the consistent shortcuts is much better, and the included software is much better. However, due to slipping quality it is getting closer to Windows. And, to MSFT‘s credit, Windows runs on a far wider array of devices. Apple has an extremely small set of configurations to worry about. Apple sells the interconnectedness of its devices, but is doing a poorer job of making that work properly.
It works...the bugs people complain about are typically minor or isolated to certain use cases.

There have been a few major ones, but Windows seems far worse in my experience.
 
Apple has a reputation of buggy software. This is proof
By that metric so does everyone else. If attempting to improve internal processes is a low bar of "a reputation of buggy software", then by that metric we as humans are all doomed since software is running critical applications (aircraft, power plants, medical devices etc) and improvement in the software process is a continuing evolution and those intelligent enough to realize the process should be improved are those who will rise to success. Oh wait. :apple:
 
By that metric so does everyone else. If attempting to improve internal processes is a low bar of "a reputation of buggy software", then by that metric we as humans are all doomed since software is running critical applications (aircraft, power plants, medical devices etc) and improvement in the software process is a continuing evolution and those intelligent enough to realize the process should be improved are those who will rise to success. Oh wait. :apple:
It’s great that Apple is trying to improve. Clearly this is needed. iOS 13 has been rough. Apple released a beta as a GM.
 
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