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Who is this copying? Using a different component is copying, just because they weren’t the first to do it?
Seems to be when it's an Apple competitor who does the same thing on this forum so you tell me? It's even copying Apple when Apple isn't the first to do it.
 
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you mean how Anker came out with a cube charger before Apple did? Oh wait...
Because high voltage charger adapters aren't generally a cube shape of some sorts? Are there patents for the shape of power adapters now? It's also an entirely different size and technology than what Apple currently has.

But thanks for the classic macrumors response.
 
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It's just not relevant now as the market has dramatically matured. If you had a better article related to today's chargers, you should have linked it instead.

Article discussing power quality? I haven't seen one. What article have you read that today's chargers have stepped up in quality to help you come to that conclusion?

Apple makes good chargers, but they don't have any special sauce, and in many cases lack what others have.

What "special sauce"? Anker's 20W runs a bit too hot and is less efficient than Apple's 20W. https://gtrusted.com/review/the-ank...-runs-a-lot-hotter-than-the-apple-20w-charger

I wouldn't give them too much credit for being an earlier adopter of PD3.0 simply because they released a product that obsoleted their previous charger.

You said features. PD3.0 is a feature. PD3.0 has many new features such as sending data about an unexpected overcurrent event and reporting of internal temperature which could be useful incase something goes wrong with the charger.
 
Anker's *bank* is Apple's change under the seat cushions. I guess that means Apple must divert their design team away from designing the next gen iPhone to designing chargers, right?
Let's be honest, anyone's bank is seat cushion change to Apple, unless the company is owned by Elon Musk. Apple has a pattern to all of this - if someone has developed something cheaper, you either acquire it, or banish it to hell with your own product.

After all, the iPhone 13 isn't being sacrificed to make AirTags right? And that market is niche AF. It's the same with their charging units now - sell the "Apple sheep" the brick and the MagSafe charger for maximum profit. So while you may feel snarky and think it's small, Apple will totally try to capitalize and earn that extra lunch money.

Note: bahhhh ... I bought the iPhone 12 Pro Max with the MagSafe charge ... and an Anker USB-C charger! 🤣
 
Because high voltage charger adapters aren't generally a cube shape of some sorts?

So you're saying internals are different, therefore, it's all good?

Can't wait until Apple makes a folding phone. Don't worry, they're not copying Samsung, because it's running an A-series chip, right?

It's also an entirely different size than what Apple currently has.

Unless you're saying Apple's upcoming GaN charger is the completely the same size and therefore we should all hold our pitchforks in accusing Apple for "copying", I don't see the relevance in nitpicking that small size difference.

What you're saying is quite stupid.
 
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Let's be honest, anyone's bank is seat cushion change to Apple, unless the company is owned by Elon Musk. Apple has a pattern to all of this - if someone has developed something cheaper, you either acquire it, or banish it to hell with your own product.

No. Chromebooks are much cheaper than iPads and MacBooks and they've taken over the schools. Apple has yet to acquire anything related to Chromebooks or "banished" Chromebooks to hell with their cheap iPads.
 
Half the size, twice the price! :apple:
I suppose you will whine no matter what even if they were handed to you for free?

Of course you can always design, engineer and manufacture your own smaller chargers and pay for all the materials, labor and shipping. I’m sure you can do all that really cheaply right?

Or you can simply use one of the dozens of chargers you probably already have.
 
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It'd be nice to have a 2 port USB-C Apple Charger. the 20W at $20 is a no-brainer for me. I've had one 30W Anker fail on me out of 5 or 6, but not one Apple charger in the last 15 years or so. I have Anker stuff and I like them but without any scientific evidence, I still just trust the Apple chargers more and I appreciate they are UL listed.

Someone mentioned that Apple should simplify their charger line-up to 2 or 3, instead of the current SKUs. It'd be great to take a smaller 61W charger with two ports when traveling, for example.
 
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Seems to be when it's an Apple competitor who does the same thing on this forum so you tell me? It's even copying Apple when Apple isn't the first to do it.

I don’t talk about anyone copying anything. And this would be a particularly stupid example - we know nothing other than that they may use GaN. There are only so many semiconductors, and power conversion chipset vendors are all moving to GaN.
 
Can they just make the power bricks have the usb c part on the side. The way it is now it makes it difficult to use their power bricks with furniture against them without bending the cords and sticking out further.

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Anker must be making bank off the "no charger" plan Apple has went to. Why bother with a POS slower unit when you can get a better developed and cheaper charge brick (bricklett?). Apple won't stand for someone making a better product and make a profit at the same time! 😜

To be fair... Anker has been a huge seller of chargers long before Apple decided to not include chargers in the box.

There have always been tons of 3rd-party companies selling chargers: Anker, Aukey, RAVPower, Belkin, Amazon Basics, etc... even when phones came with chargers.

I can't say that Anker is selling more chargers simply because Apple isn't including chargers in the box anymore. Seems like people would be buying Anker chargers anyway for the reasons you said: they're smaller, faster, better, have multiple ports, etc.

My iPhone 12 Pro Max didn't come with a charger... but I didn't have to run out and buy a new charger because of that. I already had plenty of charging solutions around my house.

However... I did buy a USB-C car charger since I mounted a MagSafe puck to my car dashboard. And Apple has never made a car charger. We always had to use 3rd-party chargers in the car.
 
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Wouldn't it have been awesome for the environment if they made a miniature 15 watt charger with a USBC plug to include in the box 5 years ago so we don't have to buy a new brick just for MagSafe and fast charging?
 
So you're saying internals are different, therefore, it's all good?

Can't wait until Apple makes a folding phone. Don't worry, they're not copying Samsung, because it's running an A-series chip, right?



Unless you're saying Apple's upcoming GaN charger is the completely the same size and therefore we should all hold our pitchforks in accusing Apple for "copying", I don't see the relevance in nitpicking that small size difference.

What you're saying is quite stupid.
oh but people in this forum can nitpick whenever a competitor does something similar to Apple and scream bloody murder then it's copying? You can't have it both ways and clearly both sides are doing enough that it isn't patent infringement.

I was making a point on how biased people in this forum are and you're just proving my point so thanks I guess.
 
I don’t talk about anyone copying anything. And this would be a particularly stupid example - we know nothing other than that they may use GaN. There are only so many semiconductors, and power conversion chipset vendors are all moving to GaN.
Was I ever talking specifically to you in my original post? Did I @cmaier in my post? Don't think so? So why comment on it if you don't call out anyone copying claims?

Several people on this forum do so I was directing a message to them not you since you apparently don't make copying claims by Apple competitors.
 
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Was I ever talking specifically to you in my original post? Did I @cmaier in my post? Don't think so? So why comment on it if you don't call out anyone copying claims?

Several people on this forum do so I was directing a message to them not you since you apparently don't make copying claims by Apple competitors.

You used the word “you” in responding to *me.* So you were referring to “me.”
 
You used the word “you” in responding to *me.* So you were referring to “me.”
Yes when I replied to you of course I did. Again did I mention you in anyway in my original post that you replied to? Did I ask you to reply to my post? I did not.

If you're not a person it was directed at since you don't accuse other companies of copying Apple then why reply?

Just to troll me?
 
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oh but people in this forum can nitpick whenever a competitor does something similar to Apple and scream bloody murder then it's copying? You can't have it both ways and clearly both sides are doing enough that it isn't patent infringement.

I was making a point on how biased people in this forum are and you're just proving my point so thanks I guess.

No. You're completely failing to understand the point.

Your question of "Where's all the copying posts?" is a bit stupid because it doesn't apply to this scenario. Nothing about this article screams "APPLE COPIED ANKER". Much less, I never truly meant that Anker copied Apple at anything (and I don't know who has on this forum). I simply said that if switching to GaN is Apple copying Anker, then Anker copied Apple (by your logic). You can't have one without the other being true.

If this was "Apple planning a folding phone" or "Apple planning on displays that wrap around the edges" then we'll be singing a different tone. But Apple switching to GaN doesn't scream "copying".

Sounds like you just want to bash Apple just for the sake of bashing Apple without much merit.
 
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DON'T GET TOO EXCITED Nerds. Charger won't be included with your M2 MacBook. You already have plenty stuffed in drawers around the house. Think of the environment first instead of your consumerist itch.
 
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No. You're completely failing to understand the point.

Your question of "Where's all the copying posts?" is a bit stupid because it doesn't apply to this scenario. Nothing about this article screams "APPLE COPIED ANKER". Much less, I never truly meant that Anker copied Apple at anything (and I don't know who has on this forum). I simply said that if switching to GaN is Apple copying Anker, then Anker copied Apple (by your logic). You can't have one without the other being true.

If this was "Apple planning a folding phone" or "Apple planning on displays that wrap around the edges" then we'll be singing a different tone. But Apple switching to GaN doesn't scream "copying".

Sounds like you just want to bash Apple just for the sake of bashing Apple without much merit.

I neve said ANKER specifically. I really don't care who copies what as long as it isn't deemed patent or copyright infringement and even if something is, it's those companies problems if they think they have and they can take legal action they don't need forum posters help. Apple using a technology that they didn't create or use in the past to make something similar to ANKER could be considere a form of copying. Just like a few weeks ago all kinds of macrumors posters come and complain that Samsung copied spatial audio. Just like Apple with updating their chargers they took an idea and are making a similar product feature but I'm sure in a different way and with different code so it's technically not copying in the eyes of the law. If they are doing enough different then by law it's also not copying. I never accused Apple of copying I said where are all the copying posts that only seem to come out when the shoe's on the other foot in this forum.

I didn't hear anyone complaining in here that Apple stole the idea for noise cancelling headphones either and they aren't because the products are different.

My point is as both a tech and Apple fan I'm so tired of people having these brand biases. And yes you don't have to tell me that Samsung and Android fans don't do the same thing. It's dumb on both sides.
 
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