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It'd be nice to have a 2 port USB-C Apple Charger. the 20W at $20 is a no-brainer for me. I've had one 30W Anker fail on me out of 5 or 6, but not one Apple charger in the last 15 years or so. I have Anker stuff and I like them but without any scientific evidence, I still just trust the Apple chargers more and I appreciate they are UL listed.

I don’t quite understand the love for Anker, I think they’re over-rated. Perhaps it’s good marketing?

Before anybody jumps on me, I don’t think Anker is bad just not as great as some people think. Their failure rate seems pretty high (just read the Amazon reviews). But I’ll give them credit that they appear to replace stuff without argument. Personally I’ve had a DOA Anker battery, a cable which didn’t meet the published specs so didn’t charge at the higher speed and a cable which was supposed to be 4 inches but was only 2.5 including the plugs.
 
I don’t quite understand the love for Anker, I think they’re over-rated. Perhaps it’s good marketing?

Before anybody jumps on me, I don’t think Anker is bad just not as great as some people think. Their failure rate seems pretty high (just read the Amazon reviews). But I’ll give them credit that they appear to replace stuff without argument. Personally I’ve had a DOA Anker battery, a cable which didn’t meet the published specs so didn’t charge at the higher speed and a cable which was supposed to be 4 inches but was only 2.5 including the plugs.
Agreed. To each his own but I'll just spend the extra bucks and not worry about replacements and such.
 
!Are there any drawbacks for these types for chargers? Sounds like a magical silver bullet... they are smaller and lighter, more power efficient and heats less, etc. Price maybe? Longevity?
 
I neve said ANKER specifically. I really don't care who copies what as long as it isn't deemed patent or copyright infringement and even if something is, it's those companies problems if they think they have and they can take legal action they don't need forum posters help.

I threw out Anker because they seem to be the most popular brand that popularized GaN chargers. Regardless of who, switching to GaN is hardly copying anyone that warrants an apple-copied-xyz post that you're suggesting.

Apple using a technology that they didn't create or use in the past to make something similar to ANKER could be considere a form of copying.

Not a form a copying that warrants "APPLE COPIED XYZ", no.

Just like a few weeks ago all kinds of macrumors posters come and complain that Samsung copied spatial audio.

That's hardly similar to what Apple is doing by switching to GaN for many reasons. But for the sake of staying on topic, I'm not going to start this Samsung vs Apple issue.

Just like Apple with updating their chargers they took an idea and are making a similar product feature but I'm sure in a different way and with different code so it's technically not copying in the eyes of the law.

If that warrants "Apple copied XYZ" posts, then it should, at the very least, also warrant "Anker copied Apple's cube charger". Right? Yet, I don't see you posting "Where are the Anker copied Apple posts?" when MacRumors wrote about the cube charger. To my knowledge, no one wrote "Anker copied Apple" in those comments. If you want to be fair, you'd have to call out Anker when they do it, call out whenever Samsung does it, to Google, to OnePlus, and to Apple.


I didn't hear anyone complaining in here that Apple stole the idea for noise cancelling headphones either and they aren't because the products are different.

You can pick up a $29 Sony Noise Cancelling headphone from Office Depot today. Can't think of anyone complaining of a company including a feature that, by today's standards, is commoditized already.

My point is as both a tech and Apple fan I'm so tired of people having these brand biases. And yes you don't have to tell me that Samsung and Android fans don't do the same thing. It's dumb on both sides.

Sure, and when MacRumors writes about a new Apple foldable phone leak that looks a lot like Galaxy Fold, your comment would have made sense. Posting it under Apple switching to GaN doesn't make sense.

Did Apple copy Dell in switching to Intel chips? Did Apple copy Logitech when they included a battery in the Magic Mouse 2? Maybe, but I sure won't be asking "Why isn't anyone saying Apple copied XYZ?"
 
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!Are there any drawbacks for these types for chargers? Sounds like a magical silver bullet... they are smaller and lighter, more power efficient and heats less, etc. Price maybe? Longevity?

Price may be higher. Other than that, no real downsides as long as they come from a reputable company (for example, some cheaper no-name brands may skimp on maintaining separation between the high voltage AC circuitry and the DC circuitry, which could lead to fire hazards, etc. Same problem could happen with silicon-based chargers, but the smaller size of the GaN chargers may provide additional impetus for unscrupulous manufacturers (or manufacturers with bad engineers) to cause such problems.
 
You mean USB-C chargers that aren't compatible with their own products (29W charger and magsafe duo)?
Spoiler - there will likely be products in three years which won't charge optimally with Apple's chargers today. This is because the standards for power delivery over USB have been improving over time, and absorbing competitive technology with proprietary alternatives like Qualcomm's quickcharge. Once Apple has a charger that supports the new standard techniques, they add optimal support for it in their new products as well.

This doesn't mean they are 'dropping support' or 'reducing efficiency' with the old chargers, it means they are taking advantage of new features. The old chargers aren't capable of what the new chargers are.
 
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You actually expect them to start including them again? Lol
You know, there's a chance Apple will move iPhones from lightning to USB-C because they can then cut including the cable in the box too ;)
 
It's about time. With smaller chargers they can actually still include them in the box and be environmentally conscious. As we all know that's what the charger removal was about...
Oof...if only that was the real reason.
 
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It's about time. With smaller chargers they can actually still include them in the box and be environmentally conscious. As we all know that's what the charger removal was about...

Nope. I think many people still don’t get it. If you already have one, why would you need another one? Hundreds of millions of people do have charging bricks already at home. If you don’t have one, and you buy one, would you keep it or throw it away every time you buy a new device? Well, you will learn to keep it now. And do the Mother Nature a favour. Thanks to Apple.
 
oh but people in this forum can nitpick whenever a competitor does something similar to Apple and scream bloody murder then it's copying?
A forum doesn't do anything. Individual people do. The way you are framing your complaint is not just overly broad (who are we all acusing of copying what?) it doesn't make sense.

There will likely be individuals that accuse Apple of following third-party charger makers too posting on this forum. Is that a surprise? Creating an account is free :)

You can't point out hypocrisy based on statements made by two unaffiliated people.

You can't have it both ways and clearly both sides are doing enough that it isn't patent infringement.
It's not patent infringement unless one side has a patent and the other infringes it.

Also remember there are both patents on inventions and "design patents". Design patents are the ones which actually would cover what you are talking about - this is what gets you in legal trouble if you are reselling copycat/counterfeit purses and the like.

I was making a point on how biased people in this forum are and you're just proving my point so thanks I guess.
Biased people exist, some of them are likely on this forum, I'm not sure what point you are putting so much effort into making.
 
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Years late. I power all my Apple devices with multi-port GAN chargers. A lot more space efficient to hang a Macbook Air, iPad and iPhone on one 65W tiny GaN charger than having three Apple chargers plus a large multi outlet adapter for the same purpose.
 
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I replaced a couple of my (UK) chargers when Apple started making neat 3-pin foldable plugs for the UK market. They are a great improvement and are no longer an inconvenience when tossed into luggage. Excellent design.

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OK, just to note they were not the first to this foldable plug design.
 
I agree, wouldn't it be good especially for travel to have one charger? I could plug my MBP, Ipad, iPhone and watch from the one charger. With the current PD system, it is mess t understand what charger can actually charge which product. I am not blaming Apple as they are just moving with the technology. But for the average person, we will have to mark the chargers to which products they can charge.

Looking forward to when these young tech people need glasses to read the ultra-fine print so we know all the outputs and if it is PD 2 or PD 3 or ....
This is what I would buy in your case:

*up to 100 W
*two usb c, two usb a ports
*GaN
*UL Listed
*$56

USB C Charger, AUKEY Omnia 100W 4-Port PD Charger with GaNFast Technology, USB C Laptop Charger Power Delivery 3.0 Compatible with MacBook Pro 16", iPad Pro 11", iPhone 11 Pro Max, HP Spectre https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GFBLGKY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_S-a9FbCJBD45M
 
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I don’t quite understand the love for Anker, I think they’re over-rated. Perhaps it’s good marketing?

Before anybody jumps on me, I don’t think Anker is bad just not as great as some people think. Their failure rate seems pretty high (just read the Amazon reviews). But I’ll give them credit that they appear to replace stuff without argument. Personally I’ve had a DOA Anker battery, a cable which didn’t meet the published specs so didn’t charge at the higher speed and a cable which was supposed to be 4 inches but was only 2.5 including the plugs.

Agreed. To each his own but I'll just spend the extra bucks and not worry about replacements and such.

What are your preferred brands for chargers?

I'll admit that I have collected quite a few chargers, battery packs, and Lightning cables from Anker. Luckily I haven't had any problems with them.

But I'm always open to seeing what else is good out there.

I remember seeing a certain RAVPower charger recommended on Youtube that can charge Macbooks as well as mobile devices. I always prefer multi-port chargers.
 
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