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People like me, lol!!!

I bet the A10,A11,A12 maybe even the A9 could all beat the lasted and greatest Android SOC. Yet in many everyday tasks, they are in par with a high end Android. I call that sloppy programming.

As for holding value I don't really care, I get free or nearly free last gen android flagship phones every year. I don't even bother with a screen protector or case and fir the price of Apple Care in Canada I could use that money for 6 months of cell service.

For the price of a fully loaded iphone Xs max with Apple Care I could pre pay 5 years of cell service. So sorry I will not trust your opinion of what is value.
iPhone X is not expensive.
 
Apple has over 40% share in the Netherlands, which means iPhone is likely the single most popular phone since the remaining Android phones are probably 10 or more phones.

You haven’t established anything concrete that Apple struggles with in the Netherlands, so I doubt anyone feels like a “second class citizen.” You don’t own a market by being a second class phone, lol.

Hold that thought please. I will come back to you when the statistics will be up to date. I can tell you in front that the numbers tanked like the numbers of Mac marketshare. Years of neglect, incremental updates and upping the prices have taken its toll.
 
This is the part you are missing. Apple is the top-ranked tech company for customer satisfaction in this area, in addition to customer satisfaction with their products. The EU issues fines all the time, bigger fines to Apple's competitors. That's unrelated to customer satisfaction rates overall.

Great man. I heard that only 4 times in a row.
But anyway, I feel so good now.
My MacBook breakdowns, noisy voice recording, Wifi- and bluetooth connection problems, loose connectors all of a sudden just dissolved into a percentage.
I realize I should be happy now to be part of that 98% satisfied herd, despite my failed and unrepaired stuff, lost magsafe and headphone jacks, etc.

I have been such a negative, obsessive, rapist idiot because of device malfunctioning and disorder.
But now I see The Light.
It just doesn’t matter if the thing is brain-dead or not, as long as I can contribute with 3 grand or anything that suits Apple and mr Cook, their performance stats and happiness. Whatever rip-off to get it repaired again - it doesn’t matter, as long as I contribute.
Why? Because 98% of cust. satisfaction, 300 mio’s of people can’t be wrong.
As Sultan Cook told them so - and Emir tromboneaholics’ repeated echo will resonate it until the end of times.

Man, I thought Apple was liable, but it must have been me who was lying.
Instead of being that negative rebellion I was, I should have let Apple do the thinking, as they far better know what’s best for their customers - including myself.
I’ll will bind a rosy strick around my dick, start reproducing myself to propagate the self-propelling Cookette cult-community. Offering them similarly braindead auto-repeaters, because 300 mio is not enough.

Man, I feel like a Siri shortcut that just became human.
I’m so happy - where can I donate to even further contribute to the former autist turf with contempt for anything remotely resembling a customer.

O wait, they’re my hero’s now.
 
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Great man. I heard that only 4 times in a row.
But anyway, I feel so good now.
My MacBook breakdowns, noisy voice recording, Wifi- and bluetooth connection problems, loose connectors all of a sudden just dissolved into a percentage.
I realize I should be happy now to be part of that 98% satisfied herd, despite my failed and unrepaired stuff, lost magsafe and headphone jacks, etc.

I have been such a negative, obsessive, rapist idiot because of device malfunctioning and disorder.
But now I see The Light.
It just doesn’t matter if the thing is brain-dead or not, as long as I can contribute with 3 grand or anything that suits Apple and mr Cook, their performance stats and happiness. Whatever rip-off to get it repaired again - it doesn’t matter, as long as I contribute.
Why? Because 98% of cust. satisfaction, 300 mio’s of people can’t be wrong.
As Sultan Cook told them so - and Emir tromboneaholics’ repeated echo will resonate it until the end of times.

Man, I thought Apple was liable, but it must have been me who was lying.
Instead of being that negative rebellion I was, I should have let Apple do the thinking, as they far better know what’s best for their customers - including myself.
I’ll will bind a rosy strick around my dick, start reproducing myself to propagate the self-propelling Cookette cult-community. Offering them similarly braindead auto-repeaters, because 300 mio is not enough.

Man, I feel like a Siri shortcut that just became human.
I’m so happy - where can I donate to even further contribute to the former autist turf with contempt for anything remotely resembling a customer.

O wait, they’re my hero’s now.
Since you have a propensity to edit your posts after the fact, I went ahead and quoted your entire post for posterity, and so you can look back on it with fondness when you're sober.
 
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I have no doubt that in CPU intensive tasks an A chip will always win, but that has to do with the chips not the OS. When an android can't beat an A series chip in simple tasks, I tend to believe that the issue is iOS.


The A-series might be the best mobile chip on earth. But what’s the benefit of having the best chip if Siri stays dumb, Maps a disaster, services don’t work as good as on Android phones and iPhone hardware priced 3x as high as comparable Android hardware?

Wow, my app opens two tenths of a second faster, but Siri doesn’t understand me and Maps is showing me the wrong direction :rolleyes:

But I can edit my movies faster on iPhone. Are there really that many users that edit their movies on a phone?
Doesn’t all day to day capabilities, like a good assistant and maps, matter more?

Services, quality, compatibility and price for your device = value for money. Apple doesn’t offer anymore.
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Since you have a propensity to edit your posts after the fact, I went ahead and quoted your entire post for posterity, and so you can look back on it with fondness when you're sober.
Lol, he might edit some typos but he stays with his story in which I totally agree :)

The biggest enemy of Apple today is Apple itself. Years of incremental upgrades, faulty products and milking customers has finally taken its toll.

The good part is that the market will force Apple to rethink their strategy, force Ive to design functional computers instead of diamond rings. Or better: force Apple to let Ive go to concentrate on his newest ego hobby, jewelry. Hire a real visionary who loves technology and is capable of making his designs the best in class like it used to be. Those were the days premium had a meaning.
 
Restarting X production will not help sales. The "X" has flopped now Tim faces the consequences.
The X just isn’t competitive priced = failure. Ive should have paid more attention in designing hardware instead of jewelry. But to be honest: name one Apple product that excels above the competition and is fairly priced.
 
The X just isn’t competitive priced = failure. Ive should have paid more attention in designing hardware instead of jewelry. But to be honest: name one Apple product that excels above the competition and is fairly priced.
Except for the Mac, I’d rather by an Apple product. Phone, watch, headphones, tablet etc. I know I will get my money’s worth from them.
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...But anyway, I feel so good now.
My MacBook breakdowns, noisy voice recording, Wifi- and bluetooth connection problems, loose connectors all of a sudden just dissolved into a percentage....
At least you don’t have to worry about your phone burning your house down.;)
 
Except for the Mac, I’d rather by an Apple product. Phone, watch, headphones, tablet etc. I know I will get my money’s worth from them.
As you live in the USA, I get why there is more value for you. Many people use messages, Maps is better, you’ll Apple Pay and maybe Siri is less dumb too. Imagine you’ll lose all those benefits and you’re in the situation most people are when not living in the USA. I’m glad you admit Macs aren’t valuable at the moment though :)
 
The A-series might be the best mobile chip on earth. But what’s the benefit of having the best chip if Siri stays dumb, Maps a disaster, services don’t work as good as on Android phones and iPhone hardware priced 3x as high as comparable Android hardware?

Wow, my app opens two tenths of a second faster, but Siri doesn’t understand me and Maps is showing me the wrong direction :rolleyes:
For me personally, the performance of the chip means I can hold onto my phone longer before it starts slowing down over the years as apps add new features.

Also, I find it interesting that people act like there is one Siri, but actually it's a series of systems for different services that Apple markets as Siri. Some of them are better than others, and I notice improvements all the time. It's not the same Siri that shipped with the iPhone 4s.

I know it's popular to complain about Siri, but for the things I use it for, it works as well as I need.

Personally, I find Siri useful for adding things to my grocery list when I'm in the kitchen cooking with my hands full, so I can just say to my iPhone "Hey Siri, add bacon to my grocery list." Later when I'm in the grocery, I can look at my Apple Watch and tick items off my list as I buy them. I share the list with me wife, so we can divide and conquer and not wind up grabbing the same item since we can see the other person marking an item as completed.

Privacy is a growing concern, and it's the number 1 reason cited by people who don't use voice assistants. This is an area where Apple has an advantage over booth Google and Amazon.
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Restarting X production will not help sales. The "X" has flopped now Tim faces the consequences.
This was last year's spin that has been proven wrong. Even the analysts admitted they were wrong about iPhone X.

Money talks and BS walks, and the money has already spoken.
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Lol, he might edit some typos but he stays with his story in which I totally agree :)
I have no problem with editing typos. I do it all the time.

It's just annoying when you point out that someone made an inaccurate claim, and they go back to their post and edit it to take out the inaccuracy.
 
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Is it just me or is this whole story BS? Apple would never restart production of an old phone. Until I see proof Japan is selling them again I don’t believe it.
 
Is it just me or is this whole story BS? Apple would never restart production of an old phone. Until I see proof Japan is selling them again I don’t believe it.
X is still for sale in Sweden, so that doesn't say much about whether it's newly manufactured or not.
 
Is it just me or is this whole story BS? Apple would never restart production of an old phone. Until I see proof Japan is selling them again I don’t believe it.
There are isolated examples of this. For example, I read that Apple restarted production of iPhone 6s in India alongside the iPhone SE last year due to tariffs India puts on imported goods.

That said, this story about iPhone X production being restarted doesn't make sense with the information they are giving us.
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X is still for sale in Sweden, so that doesn't say much about whether it's newly manufactured or not.
It's still for sale in the US, but not directly from Apple.

I've seen that Best Buy is still selling it for $899 ($100 off), but I assumed they would stop selling it when they ran out of inventory.
 
For me personally, the performance of the chip means I can hold onto my phone longer before it starts slowing down over the years as apps add new features.

Also, I find it interesting that people act like there is one Siri, but actually it's a series of systems for different services that Apple markets as Siri. Some of them are better than others, and I notice improvements all the time. It's not the same Siri that shipped with the iPhone 4s.

I know it's popular to complain about Siri, but for the things I use it for, it works as well as I need.

Personally, I find Siri useful for adding things to my grocery list when I'm in the kitchen cooking with my hands full, so I can just say to my iPhone "Hey Siri, add bacon to my grocery list." Later when I'm in the grocery, I can look at my Apple Watch and tick items off my list as I buy them. I share the list with me wife, so we can divide and conquer and not wind up grabbing the same item since we can see the other person marking an item as completed.

Privacy is a growing concern, and it's the number 1 reason cited by people who don't use voice assistants. This is an area where Apple has an advantage over booth Google and Amazon.
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This was last year's spin that has been proven wrong. Even the analysts admitted they were wrong about iPhone X.

Money talks and BS walks, and the money has already spoken.
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I have no problem with editing typos. I do it all the time.

It's just annoying when you point out that someone made an inaccurate claim, and they go back to their post and edit it to take out the inaccuracy.


I agree with you about privacy but Apple is taking a two headed approach here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmar...-data-privacy-is-a-cynical-joke/#4d0be2af2077

It looks like we are very different, but I think in the end we want the same.

I’ve always vigorously defended Apple and was in denial for a long time. I do wish Apple to prosper, but in a way of selling products that justify it. I know we could argue all day long on what is justified. But the Apple of today is money focused instead of userbase focused. Of course you need to make profit to pay the cost of R&D. Apple has taking that to an embarrassing high level though.

I firstly was very happy with Tim Cook because I thought he would built from a userbase perspective. Today I would like to see him go because he gave greed a new level.

As of Ive... seeing the state of the Mac and other hardware developments, I can't find a reason to be proud on his design book or his newly diamond ring. It would be otherwise if Apple’s whole line up was up to date.

They seem to have totally lost connection with their userbase.

So, yes... I would like to see Apple prosper (we have in common). But not by any means like the way they’re doing today.
 
The X just isn’t competitive priced = failure. Ive should have paid more attention in designing hardware instead of jewelry. But to be honest: name one Apple product that excels above the competition and is fairly priced.
X sold very well last year. Not sure how it can be seen as a failure at all. Yes it may not have sold as many as some thought but if it failed the price would have been reduced but it wasn’t
 
X sold very well last year. Not sure how it can be seen as a failure at all. Yes it may not have sold as many as some thought but if it failed the price would have been reduced but it wasn’t
Apple doesn’t discounts prices. It’s the philosophy of a premium brand :rolleyes:. They rather discontinue that specific product, than selling it for a lower price o_O.

My edit: you saw this with the MacPro, Mac mini and whole Mac range. Year after year no upgrades but also no price reductions. If it was a jewelry shop, I could understand.
 
Apple doesn’t discounts prices. It’s the philosophy of a premium brand :rolleyes:. They rather discontinue that specific product, than selling it for a lower price o_O.
I meant with the new XS. If it sold badly the XS would have gone down in price. Apple even said it was their best selling device for a good amount of time. They just didn’t sell as many as people thought but I think that total was undrealistic anyway
 
I meant with the new XS. If it sold badly the XS would have gone down in price. Apple even said it was their best selling device for a good amount of time. They just didn’t sell as many as people thought but I think that total was undrealistic anyway
Time will tell... but seeing what other competitors bring to market, it’s hard to think those will be bestsellers.
[doublepost=1543147706][/doublepost]Tim Cook is like a grasshopper. Once the grass (customer) is eaten, he will hop to new grass. He’s been doing this with the Mac, iPhone and every category they’re in today. I won’t be surprised if the grass has been eaten, he will introduce a whole new category and the circle repeats.
 
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I agree with you about privacy but Apple is taking a two headed approach here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmar...-data-privacy-is-a-cynical-joke/#4d0be2af2077

I started reading this article, and it seemed very familiar. When I got to the line "The Apple chief executive was in Brussels on Wednesday," I realized that was back in October.

This is the same article I read last month being published again a month later by an "investment adviser" and "trader." There is something fishy about it being published again and being shared by other blogs again.

Obviously there is a lot of opinion in the article, but one part I personally know is false:

"Users understand services free to them are supported by advertising. They know Google keeps track of their search history, Facebook knows their friends and likes, and Amazon logs what they buy. They are not being duped."

When he says users are not being duped, that's not true.

All of those services collect more information than we think and use it in ways that go deeper and are more invasive than he describes. I only realized this a year ago when I was working for an advertising agency. It was eye-opening to see exactly how much personal information we knew about a customer once they contacted our clients. And this wasn't a massive advertising agency with a huge campaign. Some of the ad budgets were small enough that anyone could afford.
 
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I started reading this article, and it seemed very familiar. When I got to the line "The Apple chief executive was in Brussels on Wednesday," I realized that was back in October.

This is the same article I read last month being published again a month later by an "investment adviser" and "trader." There is something fishy about it being published again and being shared by other blogs again.

Obviously there is a lot of opinion in the article, but one part I personally know is false:

"Users understand services free to them are supported by advertising. They know Google keeps track of their search history, Facebook knows their friends and likes, and Amazon logs what they buy. They are not being duped."

When he says users are not being duped, that's not true.

All of those services collect more information than we think and use it in ways that go deeper and are more invasive than he describes. I only realized this a year ago when I was working for an advertising agency. It was eye-opening to see exactly how much personal information we knew about a customer once they contacted our clients. And this wasn't a massive advertising agency with a huge campaign. Some of the ad budgets were small enough that anyone could afford.
I can’t remember the last time Forbes published a complimentary article about Apple. Says more about Forbes than Apple.
 
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Hold that thought please. I will come back to you when the statistics will be up to date. I can tell you in front that the numbers tanked like the numbers of Mac marketshare. Years of neglect, incremental updates and upping the prices have taken its toll.
Based on what? Your feelings and anecdotal data don’t matter. The number I gave you is up to date, October in fact.

“Wait, and I’ll be right,” is a ridiculous argument not based in reality.
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At this point iPhone is also probably 10 or more phones.
They are all still iPhone, made by the same company. You can’t say the same about Samsung. Google, LG, OnePlus, Xiaomi, and Huawei.
 
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Apple has over 40% share in the Netherlands, which means iPhone is likely the single most popular phone since the remaining Android phones are probably 10 or more phones.

You haven’t established anything concrete that Apple struggles with in the Netherlands, so I doubt anyone feels like a “second class citizen.” You don’t own a market by being a second class phone, lol.

I don't know much about the Netherlands but your assertion is incorrect. iPhone market share over there is 34% and it's below Samsung's share.

Source
 
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