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Why not just get iPhone 8. My point is that these old technologies are holding Apple back. Once new tech arrived, Steve jobs moved the whole line on in a heart beat.

I feel better knowing he's still running Apple from beyond the grave. This is probably the best news I've heard in years about Apple. :)
 
I honestly don’t understand this obsession about bezels. If you prefer the all screen iPhone that’s fine, but the notion that it’s “unacceptable” for the classic iPhone form factor to exist is really puzzling to me.

The only people I ever see complaining about bezels are techies, your average consumer doesn’t even know the word.

Don’t get me wrong, if an SE2 came out with the all screen display I’d buy it day one (I’m on a 6s that I’ve kept running happily by installing a new battery every 18 months or so since I bought it), but there’s nothing upsetting to me about a bezel.

Neither is it for me. I have a 6S going strong with a new battery. I am among the minority ones who actually prefers bezel - offsets virtual buttons for landscape gaming and keeps things symmetrical. But when every other manufacturer is going to have no bezels, iPhone simply looks very dated. It's precisely the general non-tech people who will go for non-iPhones in the same price range if they look a lot flashier.
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The world is not the 15% of people from western countries that can afford to make of big bezels some sort of real life issue. And even in western countries there are a lot of people that can’t, and even many that just don’t care.
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I am not from a western country. Just because this phone has a bezel, doesn't mean it's going to be affordable in the developing countries. For comparison, iPhone 6S sells at about 450 USD in India - just shy of a One+ 6 price. Most people go for OnePlus. This phone will have to be priced much, much lower than those OnePluses and Oppos.
 
Different strokes for different folks. I have no issue with the notch and never notice it unless I actively look at the status bar.

I've seen this argument posted many times on this site..however the same could be said about the bezels..as in “I never notice the bezels unless I actively look at them”.

I think people should just buy what makes them happy. There is no Best or 1 size fits all option.
 
I've seen this argument posted many times on this site..however the same could be said about the bezels..as in “I never notice the bezels unless I actively look at them”.

I think people should just buy what makes them happy. There is no Best or 1 size fits all option.

Do I notice the bezels? Not really. Is a lot of space on the front wasted that could be display instead? Definitely. That‘s why I prefer the notch.

And I never claimed there‘s a one size fits all option. What I do think though is that most people who dislike the notch have never used an iPhone with a notch for an extended period of time.
 
Do I notice the bezels? Not really. Is a lot of space on the front wasted that could be display instead? Definitely. That‘s why I prefer the notch.

And I never claimed there‘s a one size fits all option. What I do think though is that most people who dislike the notch have never used an iPhone with a notch for an extended period of time.

That’s great you are happy with your purchase. I was not singling you out but I should have said so. I am sorry I upset you.
 
That’s great you are happy with your purchase. I was not singling you out but I should have said so. I am sorry I upset you.

I‘m definitely not upset. Just clarified my point and told you why I think the Bezel/Notch comparison doesn‘t really work, imo.
 
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It won’t satisfy "SE diehard fans" either. Otherwise they‘d get an 8, X or XS.

Yeah but we might settle for it at a reasonable price, if the alternative feels like either reverting to a small dumbphone or else watching our SE die or not run ioS 13 (maybe) or 14 (almost certainly). I'd probably swap my XR's SIM back from the SE where it's been living since I decided the XR is a great device but too heavy and big to use as a phone, and then I'd wait and see what Apple came up with in 2021-22. If it got too tedious using the XR as my actual phone, then I'd get a little cellphone from the carrier, whatever they have, and go back to a smartphone when smartphones get smaller again. Sooner or later some manufacturer will fill that niche, which is bigger even in Western markets than Apple feels like acknowledging.
 
Yawn. Overpriced and less useful every day. That's Jony Ive's way.

Hey, let's push services like Apple Music... and then do idiotic things to make those services harder to consume, like removing the headphone jacks from the music-playing devices.
 
Yawn. Overpriced and less useful every day. That's Jony Ive's way.

Hey, let's push services like Apple Music... and then do idiotic things to make those services harder to consume, like removing the headphone jacks from the music-playing devices.

I am not fond of that move either. I'll end up using my older iPods more, which is ok but... as usual I think Apple got out a bit too far in front of the curve on the minimization of ports gig in newer devices.

They must be salivating for the day they can keynote the first complete disk to brain music player, you open this tiny box and there's a chip you slide onto your eye like a contact lens et voila, 1TB of the world's finest music on tap.. blink twice to kickstart it, look down to move to next playlist...
 
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