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Apple Reportedly Plans to Launch Revised 4.7-inch iPhone 8 in March 2020 to Boost Share of Mid-Tier Smartphone Market
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I'd rather it keep touchID personally.
I, and many others could not care less about Face ID. I love the fingerprint sensing home button. Shrink the bezels, keep the home button, and improve the specs over my current 8plus and I may be tempted. Even if the camera spec is not quite up to the dual lens 8plus. I’ve tried the size of the 8 plus and I am ready to reduce.
I think you explained it without realizing it. I can't speak for everyone, but it's the ability to have a larger screen without increasing the size of the phone. Thick bezels are wasted space in terms of screen usability. There may be an aesthetic issue for some as well, but the main reason for anyone would be wanting to have as large a surface area to interact with as possible, in the smallest form factor without sacrifice.
The headphone jack won't be coming back, but I agree with the rest of it.
$599 -> $649 . An 8.35% increase in the price of the device to more robustly address the mid-tier market. Chuckle, yeah that's a great plan ..... not. Cranking prices higher is basically an attempt to leave the mid-tier, not more robustly address it.
I think there is more than a decent chance this is confused. First, that 128GB is not the baseline, minimal storage. (for the top line phones perhaps they'll move to 128GB being the base. But Apple has a long track record of capping the mid-tier model with less than the top line. ). Second, after the baseline storage is reduced to 64 (whatever Apple can minimize on) it will be close to the $599 model currently have. ( which really is only marginally in the 'mid range' with respect to the whole smartphone market. ).
More likely Apple will try to put a 'floor' under the current iPhone 8 price point by putting a new SoC in there. ( A13) and keep the Flash storage the same so as not to increase the price. Apple could add in a 128GB model between the huge gap of 64 -> 256GB they have now (with an associated $150 jump in price. For mid-tier option that is a dubiously large gap. A $50 'step up' option would get far more takers for that range of price sensitivity. $150 is just kicking more than a few folks in the shins. Especially when the NAND is not even remotely close to that in costs. )
I think you explained it without realizing it. I can't speak for everyone, but it's the ability to have a larger screen without increasing the size of the phone. Thick bezels are wasted space in terms of screen usability. There may be an aesthetic issue for some as well, but the main reason for anyone would be wanting to have as large a surface area to interact with as possible, in the smallest form factor without sacrifice.
I see what you are saying there regarding bezels, bigger Screed etc without actually getting bigger. My point was more aimed at home button/Face ID and specs though really.
I guess Apple wants to go in three directions at once... They are probably seeing iPhone SE (despite it keep making a return to the clearance sales), Apple insists to give users wan they want... still..
What's wrong with their iPhone SE ? It fits perfectly, and weather Apple knows it or not by giving in, they ARE creating more models,
Updated internals usually mean Apple isn't satisfied with sales on all better models. So, they gonna get a middle-man, to make people buy the newer ones.
Wha the heck is wrong with people deciding for themselves?
What's wrong with their iPhone SE ? It fits perfectly, and weather Apple knows it or not by giving in, they ARE creating more models,
Updated internals usually mean Apple isn't satisfied with sales on all better models. So, they gonna get a middle-man, to make people buy the newer ones.
Wha the heck is wrong with people deciding for themselves?
Why? Because Apple's quarterly reports doesn't focus on units sold anymore but on average selling price. A temporary price drop from Sept '19 to March '20 would be covered by an uptick in sales of the new top tier models.
Once the initial sales of those top tier model starts to taper off, they could 'cover' the price decrease of the iPhone 8 model price point by bumping the price back up and rationalizing that by putting a new SoC (current A13) in there and slapping a new name on it (e.g., 8SE ). . So as units of top tier go down, the mid-tier might shrink a bit too, but selling pricing would go back up and they would have a better grip on holding the overall average. ( At that point they'd be selling an almost 3 year old baeline design and relatively close to original pricing. and probably getting away with it too. )
They also get a device to stuff "extra" A13 SoC packages into if their estimates on the top tier model sales in the Fall and early Winter sales are off. If their estimates are on track in late Fall then they can buy some more Spring 'wafer start' slots and make incrementally more as they need them.
I think having an iPhone with the "classic" design & updated specs is a great idea. Not everybody needs top of the line features or cares for "edge-to-edge" screen. Plus there are rumors of revamped all-OLED lineup coming next year (5.42", 6.06", 6.67"). I can definitely see the possibility of this being next year's lineup
iPhone LCD (4.8", TouchId, A13, 1080P screen) - $599
iPhone OLED 5.42" - $799
iPhone OLED 6.06" - $899
iPhone OLED 6.67" - $999
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Only Apple could get away with relaunching a phone with a design from 5 years ago. Make that 6 years in 2020.
On one hand, I guess that's some kind of compliment, because I bet no one would buy a re-release of the Galaxy S-5 for 650 dollars or so. On the other hand, i think Apple is not paying enough attention to the mid-tier/smaller screen market.
Even though a lot of people doesn't mind having the latest and greatest and want a smaller screen, no one likes buying an expensive piece of tech with such a dated design.
I, for once, have an iPhone 7 and I'm starting to flirt with the Galaxy S10e. If I make that purchase, that will probably be the beginning of my leaving the Apple ecosystem.
On one hand, I guess that's some kind of compliment, because I bet no one would buy a re-release of the Galaxy S-5 for 650 dollars or so. On the other hand, i think Apple is not paying enough attention to the mid-tier/smaller screen market.
Even though a lot of people doesn't mind having the latest and greatest and want a smaller screen, no one likes buying an expensive piece of tech with such a dated design.
I, for once, have an iPhone 7 and I'm starting to flirt with the Galaxy S10e. If I make that purchase, that will probably be the beginning of my leaving the Apple ecosystem.
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Am sad that there isn't similar news of an updated 5.5" "Plus" form factor iPhone. The Plus iPhones are what got me to switch to Android. And once Plus becomes iPhone history, I may very well return to Android, because the XR isn't a viable replacement and XS Max is way too expensive (and even it kills some nice software features that are still exclusive to Plus).
was iPhone SE $650?
a basic,small phone without all the new bells and whistles should have price tag that justifies it's lack of features.
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you talk as if iPhone XR is really a great device..again considering the price ..tht thing is trash.Single lens? iPhone XR, same DXOmark as Pixel 3, which many considers to be one of the best camera phone.
Dull LCD? Again, iPhone XR, blind tests seem to show that people don't seem to mind.
As for design, we'll see come 2020. We have not even had 2019 iPhones yet.
it's a rip off,low resolution LCD screen and single camera lens..it should have been priced lower to be considered a decent budget phone.I will personally NEVER buy something like that,but I've heared complains about low resolution screen from many owners online.
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Nope ... this is all wrong.
I just think Pegatron or another company like Foxconn will bring back iPhone 8 production at a cheaper cost with new cpu and storage options or just the same iPhone 8 at a MUCH cheaper cost built right within India!
You can call it whatever you want.
However, DXOmark of iPhone XR is 101, the same as Pixel 3. If the Pixel 3 is considered to be one of the best smartphone camera, wouldn’t it be strange for one to call the XR trash? :shrug:
Oh okay, third parties being able to crash your device or activate your camera with FaceTime isn't a problem because you've redefined user experience to not include those things, and even have an acronym to back it up.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/iphone-users-hit-with-ios-imessage-emoji-bug/
The thing is I never encounter anyone ion the real world who even cares about bezels or home buttons. These obsessions seem centered on a tiny group on social media types.
Bravo !
It's the single smartest move AAPL has made under Cook !
Dumbest, buying into their own Hype (& moving their ENTIRE iPhone product line so Upscale).
This move will help correct their Dumbest move.
Hopefully, they fix the Performance Controller bug(s) in the XR's A12 !
It's the single smartest move AAPL has made under Cook !
Dumbest, buying into their own Hype (& moving their ENTIRE iPhone product line so Upscale).
This move will help correct their Dumbest move.
Hopefully, they fix the Performance Controller bug(s) in the XR's A12 !
I would consider a 4.7 Phone if it was bezelless. There is no way that i am gonna size-upgrade my current SE to such a big clumsy design of the iPhone 6/7/8. I got rid of my horrible iPhone 6 after 12 Months and switched to the SE. Best decision ever.
If my SE dies in a few years and Apple does not come up with a budget small phone or a premium small phone, I will have made alternative plans:
Plan B: Get a small android phone, if available then.
Plan C: Get a dumb but small flip phone and quit smartphones all together.
Screw You, Tim, I won't buy any of Your clumsy fugly phablets !
If my SE dies in a few years and Apple does not come up with a budget small phone or a premium small phone, I will have made alternative plans:
Plan B: Get a small android phone, if available then.
Plan C: Get a dumb but small flip phone and quit smartphones all together.
Screw You, Tim, I won't buy any of Your clumsy fugly phablets !
Nope. I want updated internals on the SE form factor.
Add in-display touch ID, no Face ID and keep 3.5mm jack. I'd buy that for 700 eur easy mode
You can’t get iP8 with 128GB now.
But doubling baseline storage from iP7’s 32GB & iP8’s 64 GB means that most of those new iP8s will have a long life. Maybe the decline in sales made Apple think more about first time customers which ran out of storage way too fast.
No buy. Call me stubborn or whatever.
The day my SE dies, if no replacement available from Apple with 3.5mm jack, it's the day I stop having an Apple phone. That simple
All Oled screens??? Are you crazy ??? Oled screens for a lot of people’s are causing eyes strain and headaches