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Netflix still owns this market. While a hardware upgrade, price drop, and streaming is a step in the right direction, the iTunes movie/tv model can't hold a candle to netflix streaming now on most Bluray players, gaming consoles, set-top boxes and even some televisions. If the next ATV has netflix streaming, access to all of my iTunes library (via lala aquision) and web access, then it might be worth buying for $99. And who knows? All of those things are possible.


Well you know, netflix is only for people in the US. I live in canada and would love to stream movies for a monthly fee but I cant. Hopefully apple can get it right for us non US people.
 
an iphone without a screen? I'm wondering how the iPhone OS works without multitouch? Maybe a multitouch remote control? Maybe you can use your iPhone/iPod/iPad as a remote? Would be pretty cool, but I'm afraid they'll stick with a price-per-video system when I would be willing to pay a $10/mo subscription service - probably more per month, but I can dream.

That's exactly what I was thinking as well. Basically control the apple TV with your iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, without having to look at it.

If they open the platform up to the App Store, then this could be a HUGE market to tap into!
 
How could this only cost $99??? The iPhone 3GS costs $179 to manufacture as it is. Removing the LCD and Digitizer would only knock off $36 from that. So that's a $143 manufacturing cost! :confused:

That Would Be content Sales and Halo Effects.
 
Goodbye Microsoft, it's all about google and apple now. Seriously, I think this decade with be the demise of MS. I am definitely excited for the products that will come from this competition. I love both google and apple, and I love their ideas for TV. I have been waiting for something to replace cable/dish/satellite or what have you, and the new apple tv/google tv seems to be the replacement. Apple tv in it's current form is frankly a waste of money, but if it turns into a viable replacement for current tv services I am sold. Tv right now is just a fancier way to do what we have always done. Internet tv seems to be the future.

No. Sorry but no. Microsoft make the vast amount of their income from the business market and there's just no viable competitor in that space right now or for the foreseable future.

What you may (well, probably will) see is Microsoft shrinking a bit. Business is less likely to want to upgrade their OS and apps if there's no compelling reason to do so. We're already seeing that, the take up of Vista wasn't great outside of new PC's, Office 2010 isn't exactly a top priority for most places with 2007 and so on. But anyone that thinks MS is honestly going to die as a company really need to understand the sheer breadth and depth of their product offerings and just how many companies rely on them.
 
Every iPhone HD an AppleTV then?

If the hardware is exactly the same as the new iPhone, the more interesting news would be that every iPhoneHD owner (and the new iPod coming out in september) would automatically have an AppleTV in their pockets. Potentially at least, if Apple activates that functionality with an App. But why wouldn't they, would be another selling argument. Within a year there could be over a 100 million AppleTV's...
 
Netflix still owns this market. While a hardware upgrade, price drop, and streaming is a step in the right direction, the iTunes movie/tv model can't hold a candle to netflix streaming now on most Bluray players, gaming consoles, set-top boxes and even some televisions. If the next ATV has netflix streaming, access to all of my iTunes library (via lala aquision) and web access, then it might be worth buying for $99. And who knows? All of those things are possible.

Netflix is on other iPhone OS devices,why wouldn't it be made available to an Apple TV running iPhone OS? You are saying this would fail based on the improbable event of an iPhone OS device not having an app store. That makes no sense to me at all.
 
How could this only cost $99??? The iPhone 3GS costs $179 to manufacture as it is. Removing the LCD and Digitizer would only knock off $36 from that. So that's a $143 manufacturing cost! :confused:

Not sure where you got the $179 figure, but why are you comparing it to an iPhone at all? To me it sounds more like an iPod Touch, since a living room device would have no need of a compass, GPS, or 3G.
 
$99? If this thing is that price and isn't a lump of semi-useless tech, I'll buy it. Broadcast TV is toast in this house, and all the best stuff can be taken from the web.

Google TV will blow it out the water.

As it bellyflops in and drowns?
wtf... does anyone even know what Google TV is yet?
It's an idea and a marketing scheme at the moment.
When you have and hold and use a "Google TV", your opinion might mean more than nothing.
 
I am a little concerned about the form factor as shown. Do you put it on a top shelf or table alongside your big screen? How about for people who put their stuff inside a cabinet, in racks or on a series of small shelves?

The description was that it doesn't have a screen, but it looks like it does.

I wonder about 3D now. Apple glasses. What would they look like?!
 
For 99 bucks, I'd buy one. Especially if the Netflix app works on it.

Perhaps you would be able to use your iPhone/iPad/iPod touch as the remote control. If it really will be like an iPhone without a screen, then perhaps Apps will be allowed to be utilized, and therefore games..... My iPhone/iPad could make for a cool gaming controller.

I assume that the App devs would have to enhance their apps to look good on such a large screen.....
 
Well you know, netflix is only for people in the US. I live in canada and would love to stream movies for a monthly fee but I cant. Hopefully apple can get it right for us non US people.

Soon. This whole space is going to explode very soon. I want to pay for what I watch. I don't want all this extra crap that comes with these cable packages.

I am cutting the cord and this is welcome news.
 
Not sure where you got the $179 figure, but why are you comparing it to an iPhone at all? To me it sounds more like an iPod Touch, since a living room device would have no need of a compass, GPS, or 3G.

Or a battery
 
I Hope it lets you DL content from Itunes for Devices,but then allows streaming from the cloudin the Living room,and streaming from your own Itunes Content
 
I am a little concerned about the form factor as shown. Do you put it on a top shelf or table alongside your big screen? How about for people who put their stuff inside a cabinet, in racks or on a series of small shelves?

The description was that it doesn't have a screen, but it looks like it does.

I wonder about 3D now. Apple glasses. What would they look like?!

That's a TV. If you want to see what :apple:TV looks like, go to Apple's website.

3D? Getting a little ahead of ourselves, aren't we?
 
Smells like BS speculation.

16GB of flash is a huge step backwards. That's what, three HD movies?

Moving to the cloud eliminates the need for local storage.

Good luck streaming 1080p, even over 802.11n.

I'm hoping it has Gigabit Ethernet.
I've been able to stream 720p over 802.11n...haven't tried 1080p yet.
 
I am a little concerned about the form factor as shown. Do you put it on a top shelf or table alongside your big screen? How about for people who put their stuff inside a cabinet, in racks or on a series of small shelves?

The description was that it doesn't have a screen, but it looks like it does.

I wonder about 3D now. Apple glasses. What would they look like?!

That is a picture of an iPhone with a cord coming out of it and connected to a TV..
 
How could this only cost $99??? The iPhone 3GS costs $179 to manufacture as it is. Removing the LCD and Digitizer would only knock off $36 from that. So that's a $143 manufacturing cost! :confused:

You can also remove the battery, and the 3G connectivity. Probably some support chips can be removed too (compass, accelerometers, GPS), although they might need to add some for HDMI, etc.

I hope it has an ethernet jack though, as well as optical audio, HDMI, power.

You are talking about a PCB with an A4, flash, a few ports, some support chips, in a small case (plastic top and bottom, maybe aluminium around the edges).

It will be styled like the 4G iPhone, not the 3G one as the ridiculous article's mockup has.
 
I literally JUST bought one two days ago (only using it for boxee and emulators) so this is interesting... haha. I honestly don't think I'd be pissed if this is true, though. I want it for boxee, that's about it. I don't want it to run iphone apps on the tv.

But seriously, if you want to talk about fragmenting, how about this??
 
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