Exactly. That's why some still want real video sources, and the cloud ain't gonna do it.
Actually, normal 720p is already compressed over 50x. Going further is just wrong.
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Exactly. That's why some still want real video sources, and the cloud ain't gonna do it.
Actually, normal 720p is already compressed over 50x. Going further is just wrong.
The days of big clunky devices are over (VCR, etc). look how small a DVD player has gotten over the years. This is something that could literally be velcro's or duct taped (yes I live in the south and that is what most poeple would do - not me, but most) out of the way to the TV.
But look at this way also. Add in wifi and 3g - then boom a small portable device to take to your next party and hook up to their big screen.
This news, if true, is welcome. Look at where the world is today -- many new LED/LCD TVs come with built-in media streaming capability, and even home theatre receivers are starting to come with that feature. Consoles like the PS3 and XBox 360 can do it. Other companies sell $99 (or near) devices that can do this, like the Western Digital WD TV Live, or the Asus O!Play, or boxes by other companies like Roku and Boxee. And yeah, this up and coming Google device.
When Apple TV was first released, it was pretty forward-looking. Now, Apple needs to do this just to keep up.
I'm looking forward to it, I think I'd definitely buy one, especially for $99.
When Apple TV was first released, it was pretty forward-looking. Now, Apple needs to do this just to keep up.
I'm looking forward to it, I think I'd definitely buy one, especially for $99.
Apps for your HDTV "There's a device for that"
Wouldn't Apple want to entice developers to the notion that their software is now available for 3 different platforms (iPhone, iPad and now
TV) and that they can now see their Apps running on HDTV's everywhere!
This greatly expands the market which translates to bigger profits for developers. A point that Apple would surely want to highlight at the conference.
Wouldn't Apple want to entice developers to the notion that their software is now available for 3 different platforms (iPhone, iPad and now
TV) and that they can now see their Apps running on HDTV's everywhere! This greatly expands the market which translates to bigger profits for developers. A point that Apple would surely want to highlight at the conference.
Wait, what? You need a dedicated device to work as a cable box. Battery life? What if someone calls? Get where I'm going?
Which is all well & good, until your internet goes out, or you're stuck with a horrid internet provider that chokes your connection because some DNS server is down somewhere & they can't be bothered to fix it.
Bull$4!t
There is no way that this is going to happen.
1. While I can appreciate the drive to make a new apple TV a small device, imagine a stiff HDMI and power cable coming out of your iphone. Unless the phone was positioned at just the perfect angle, the lightweight device would not have enough heft to force the cables to bend, resulting in a hovering iphone. Unless the new devise has a mount (or duct tape as somebody mentioned earlier), this thing would not sit properly in a media cabinet.
2. I have literally spent thousands of hours ripping, encoding and meticulously tagging my movie collection, and given my luck, Jobs is going to let the apple tv die a slow painful death to ensure that all of my effort was in vain. I even got my wife to love thetv.
Anyway, I think everything I read about this updated apple tv sounds absolutely awesome, and if it happens, I will purchase 3 on the first day they are available, but I am not going to hold my breath.
One thing I do wonder, in the event of cloud based storage, which I would totally sign on for (even for a monthly fee), would I be able to upload things of mine, like home movies I have encoded. That would be a big plus for me.
That's my $0.02
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There is no way that this is going to happen.
1. While I can appreciate the drive to make a new apple TV a small device, imagine a stiff HDMI and power cable coming out of your iphone. Unless the phone was positioned at just the perfect angle, the lightweight device would not have enough heft to force the cables to bend, resulting in a hovering iphone. Unless the new devise has a mount (or duct tape as somebody mentioned earlier), this thing would not sit properly in a media cabinet.
2. I have literally spent thousands of hours ripping, encoding and meticulously tagging my movie collection, and given my luck, Jobs is going to let the apple tv die a slow painful death to ensure that all of my effort was in vain. I even got my wife to love the
tv. Anyway, I think everything I read about this updated apple tv sounds absolutely awesome, and if it happens, I will purchase 3 on the first day they are available, but I am not going to hold my breath.
One thing I do wonder, in the event of cloud based storage, which I would totally sign on for (even for a monthly fee), would I be able to upload things of mine, like home movies I have encoded. That would be a big plus for me.
That's my $0.02
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Bull$4!t
There is no way that this is going to happen.
1. While I can appreciate the drive to make a new apple TV a small device, imagine a stiff HDMI and power cable coming out of your iphone. Unless the phone was positioned at just the perfect angle, the lightweight device would not have enough heft to force the cables to bend, resulting in a hovering iphone. Unless the new devise has a mount (or duct tape as somebody mentioned earlier), this thing would not sit properly in a media cabinet.
2. I have literally spent thousands of hours ripping, encoding and meticulously tagging my movie collection, and given my luck, Jobs is going to let the apple tv die a slow painful death to ensure that all of my effort was in vain. I even got my wife to love the
Anyway, I think everything I read about this updated apple tv sounds absolutely awesome, and if it happens, I will purchase 3 on the first day they are available, but I am not going to hold my breath.
One thing I do wonder, in the event of cloud based storage, which I would totally sign on for (even for a monthly fee), would I be able to upload things of mine, like home movies I have encoded. That would be a big plus for me.
That's my $0.02
Think MobileMe.
Funny thing is... That's illegal too.
Not necessarily. By statute it is technically illegal. However, that statute may not be constitutional, as Fair Use is based upon first amendment principles. Until there is a challenge to this prohibition and it is upheld, I say the Batemax case controls, and we should look to what is morally right or wrong. If you bought it and own it on DVD, you can make a copy for use with your AppleTV.
Why? Seriously...do you watch your movies over and over and over so much that it's more convenient to do all that, along with all that storage, than just popping in the DVD?
Also, don't buy the argument about it being a "backup" for DVD's. They cost what now...$9? $15?
I mean...do what you want and all....just seems like a lot of wasted effort just to watch a movie.
Something that may add a tiny smidge of credence to this report is that for the past few weeks I've been asking via various means to add the ability to 'browse' all the films in each genre like you can on the US iTS on the ATV. On the UK version there is no way to browse 'All' comedies, Dramas etc. You have to run a search (after memorising the entire library on your computer ) to find something you may like.
Usually I get a reply after spotting bugs etc on the ATV. I even got iTunes Gift cards as a thankyou once. However I dont get the slightest response with this, even though they rectified it prior to the last update (thats when i got the gift cards).
Maybe they think its not worth it if theres a new version coming out. I still wish they would sort it out though as its the simplest bloody thing to do. You can do it on the US AppleTV so why not the UK?
) to find something you may like.Usually I get a reply after spotting bugs etc on the ATV. I even got iTunes Gift cards as a thankyou once. However I dont get the slightest response with this, even though they rectified it prior to the last update (thats when i got the gift cards).
Maybe they think its not worth it if theres a new version coming out. I still wish they would sort it out though as its the simplest bloody thing to do. You can do it on the US AppleTV so why not the UK?
...and pay someone else for the privilege. I'd be very happy with an apple tv that could play 1080p content and stream or you could connect a hd to it by usb or firewire.
This is exactly what I have done. I love movies and watch them over and over, plus I like to watch them before i fall asleep, or take them with me on my iPhone. This is the same argument for mp3s vs CDs. I think it is a matter of preference, but I do see exactly where DougB is coming from.
Then perhaps this device isn't for you. The whole point of these devices (and I am a proud and happy owner of an AppleTV) is that in the home you store content somewhere and then stream it to this device. The device isn't supposed to store except temporarily (which is how I use it). If your home isn't set up in this manner, this device may not be for you.
That said, if it does connect to a Time Capsule, you could download and store there and stream from there. But I'm sure someone has already suggested this.
A4 is just the first baby step
Great news about Apple TV. I knew there was a reason why I hadn't bought one yet.
But really, the A4 is only an interim step. The real major step will come when the PA Semi group's work finally makes it into Apple products. A4 was developed by Intrinsity (and also Samsung?) as a stopgap until PA Semi's custom system-on-chip is ready.
It takes 3 years to design, develop, and release an all-new chip, and it's been about 2.5 years since the PA Semi acquisition. This could mean that the 2011 iPhone will get the PA Semi chip, and possibly iPad 2.0 and iPod Touch as well. As for Apple TV? It may not need that much power, frankly.
And even a small iPhone-sized external Apple TV device is still an interim product. Eventually, I'd bet that Apple wants Sony, Samsung, LG, et al to build Apple TV into their TV sets.
Oh, and as for everyone who says "the cloud will go down, or your ISP will suck": that's why you might want to attach an external Time Capsule to the new mini Apple TV. So you can store at least some of your content at home.
Great news about Apple TV. I knew there was a reason why I hadn't bought one yet.
But really, the A4 is only an interim step. The real major step will come when the PA Semi group's work finally makes it into Apple products. A4 was developed by Intrinsity (and also Samsung?) as a stopgap until PA Semi's custom system-on-chip is ready.
It takes 3 years to design, develop, and release an all-new chip, and it's been about 2.5 years since the PA Semi acquisition. This could mean that the 2011 iPhone will get the PA Semi chip, and possibly iPad 2.0 and iPod Touch as well. As for Apple TV? It may not need that much power, frankly.
And even a small iPhone-sized external Apple TV device is still an interim product. Eventually, I'd bet that Apple wants Sony, Samsung, LG, et al to build Apple TV into their TV sets.
Oh, and as for everyone who says "the cloud will go down, or your ISP will suck": that's why you might want to attach an external Time Capsule to the new mini Apple TV. So you can store at least some of your content at home.
Hopefully, it won't require a hack to access this one, or is that silly wishful thinking on my part?
Does the current ATV with the Apple software work with Netflix or HULU yet? Until that happens it's a non-starter IMHO.
The current iPhone OS could work as a good starting point though since the iPad can already stream Netflix, ABC.com, and access locally saved movies (easily expandable to network accessible). I can see where they might go with it.
The current iPhone OS could work as a good starting point though since the iPad can already stream Netflix, ABC.com, and access locally saved movies (easily expandable to network accessible). I can see where they might go with it.
I have no idea. You will notice on the back of A/V devices you will see a maintenance port. It could be USB or Firewire. But it's there. You can thank Bill Clinton and the DMCA of 2000 for it.
Also, what about sports? Do you all not watch live sports on TV in HD? I can't drop my satellite/cable subscription for this sole reason. Or else I would a la carte everything through itunes, netflix, etc.
And the satellite/cable companies won't give you the ESPN's and TNT's until you get premium packages, ultimately paying for channels you don't care about.
Apple TV will NOT replace cable/satellite, at least not for me, and a lot of others, i anticipate.
I'm not saying Apple won't make money on the hardware, they always do. My point though is that the long term revenue stream Apple has developed through iTunes (music, movies, apps, books, etc.) far outweighs any revenue from a one-time $99 hardware purchase. This is where Apple differs from all other set-top box manufacturers and why seriously entering the market makes sense.
Change the software to the iPhone OS, let the iPad/iPhone hardware become sophisticated remote-like devices (as used in iPad version of Scrabble) and the concept becomes exciting.
