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Apple Reportedly Prepping Revamped Apple TV: iPhone OS, Cloud-Based Storage, $99 Price Point?

smiddlehurst said:
MS at the moment aren't willing to do that but it's coming and when it does you may find they're more relevant than you think...

Note, not a fanboy of anyone or anything, just a realist.
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"It's" been coming for quite a while now. Not here yet. Sorta like how the Zune HD was going to change everything. When's that going to happen?

From Mel Brooks' "Spaceballs"...

"When will THEN be NOW?"

"Soon!"
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
How would that work exactly? I can imagine games & apps depending on the accelerometer working well, but what about all those that involving touching the screen, clicking virtual buttons, etc? You can't watch the big screen and click the right spots on the little screen. So are you flipping your eyes up to the big screen when there's not virtual navigation interaction, then down to the small screen when there is?

XBox, Sony etc controllers have buttons you can feel, while keeping your eyes on the (one) screen. How's that going to work for iDevice as controllers when you can't feel the buttons?
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You'll be using gestures (a compination of motion and multitouch) rather than pressing particular buttons.
 
Cougarcat said:
It needs a USB port to connect it to a hard drive. The Apple could get rid of the flash altogether and sell it for even less.
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Are we living in the me world? USB on an apple product ? Nit going to happen.... This is going to be closed and pronfree ;-)
 
In theory this sounds good, but in reality, less than good - if all files are stored on a remote server: Internet bandwidth limits are easily eaten up by videos alone - add music to the mix and limits will be exhausted pretty quickly.
 
saxofunk said:
Netflix still owns this market. While a hardware upgrade, price drop, and streaming is a step in the right direction, the iTunes movie/tv model can't hold a candle to netflix streaming now on most Bluray players, gaming consoles, set-top boxes and even some televisions. If the next ATV has netflix streaming, access to all of my iTunes library (via lala aquision) and web access, then it might be worth buying for $99. And who knows? All of those things are possible.
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I agree that Netflix is nice -- but the streaming movie selection sucks (in my opinion), and after having sifted through the B and C movies for the nth time with nothing good to watch, we decided to (and did) end our Netflix membership.
 
I guess if Apple really wants to push hard in home gaming, they'd do as Nintendo did and also have regular controllers for sale.

I don't understand this negativity.

We're looking at 4 similar yet fairly new methods of home gaming interaction:

-Nintendo wiimote
-PS Move
-MS Natal
-Apple multitouch?

I'm personally really hopeful of what could happen.
 
hobbbz said:
Number one thing keeping me from buying an TV is having to sync it with a computer. I don't want all my video in 2 places, i want it at the TV.

If it can't do this I'm going to buy a mini.
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You don't have to sync anything to the :apple:TV. You can simply connect it to an iTunes library (or libraries, if you have more than one), and stream the content to it wired or wirelessly from that device. That's how I do it. In fact, the only reason I didn't buy a larger hard drive was because the hard drive only ever gets used for cacheing rentals in this configuration.

I just hope this software will run on existing boxes too.

But before I see any more monkeying around with the :apple:TV software, I want Apple to restore the AC3 passthrough capabilities to iTunes and QT that they disabled shortly before the last major update. Believe it or not, Uncle Jobs, I do have AC3 content I'd like to play from my desktop that doesn't belong to Sony/MGM.
 
spice weasel said:
Why? People have been saying this for years. Like it or not, DVRs are outdated. Why bother recording and storing locally if you can have content delivered on-demand from the cloud? DVRs are power hogs, space hogs, and pump out a lot of heat.
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...because many of us in North America are bandwidth capacity limited with small caps per month. It's going to be difficult to watch lots of HD content when it's all being streamed by Netflix, Hulu, and potentially Apple's new data center.

Like it or not, we are still hampered by the cable companies who own the pipe int your home......
 
Surely said:
For 99 bucks, I'd buy one. Especially if the Netflix app works on it.

Perhaps you would be able to use your iPhone/iPad/iPod touch as the remote control. If it really will be like an iPhone without a screen, then perhaps Apps will be allowed to be utilized, and therefore games..... My iPhone/iPad could make for a cool gaming controller.

I assume that the App devs would have to enhance their apps to look good on such a large screen.....
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Hmmmm. I just had a vision. The data center Apple is building is targeting their new enemy, Netflix. If Apple makes this billion dollar facility a movie storage space and goes to a rental model like Netflix without the physical mail order dvd's, they will automatically have more customers than Netflix. Imagine Apple getting $15/month from 20 million people. That's $300 million or the equivalent of $3.6 billion dollars a year.

This is what Apple is after. They could take it global very quickly. The other thing is that by making it the same form factor as the I-phone, it will cost next to nothing to manufacture. Apple is absolutely brilliant.
 
So it appears Roku and Boxee have given Apple some ideas ...

Although if they really want to do something network based they should think about getting the software shipped at OEM level with display manufacturers.

When almost every new display is now being outfitted with streaming video capability, having to have a separate box just for that reason becomes less attractive.
 
X38 said:
They MUST add a DVR, or it will still be a non-starter.
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DVR is good - Apple might swallow up TIVO. The timing for this is good right now, they might do it. TIVO has some good patent IP for the DVR concept.

Google threatens with their TV concept.

I don't think Apple TV needs to have DVR though. The Motorola or Tivo cable boxes supplied by your cable company already do that. What's good about the current Apple TV is that you can watch your photo's and holiday videos on the TV in style. any people have video cameras and regular digital cameras, but they don't really care about the Apple TV functionality that is already out there - the proof is that Apple TV really isn't that popular ( I absolutely love it for renting movies, and sharing photo's with friends and family when I entertain at our home, but most people don't have their photo's together enough to really care about family videos and family photo's on the TV - this is why Apple calls it a "hobby" right now).

Now with the Google TV threat, Apple has a reason to get moving on something for Apple TV.

More important than the DVR, I think they should be getting 42" LCD TV screens, and make the ultimate TV set that anyone can hook up.

Check it out - the big problem with flat screen TV's etc is that it takes a mega geek to set one up properly. Nobody just has the flatscreen TV on it's own, they always have some BOSE soundsystem speaker thing, some cable box, and a bunch of crap they can never figure out. It continues to grow and grow until the family has 17 IR remote controls all over the place and they then start scrambling for a Harmony Remote control system to handle it all. Apple could do all this much better, and people will pay for it if Apple can demonstrate that any fool can hook up their TV set without a snarling mess of cables behind the 2 inch thick flatscreen TV. It's the same farce as the personal computer was before the iMac. We have these beautiful flat screen TV's but every single one of them has 30 pounds of HDMI and RCA cables in behind. If one gets unplugged, the system doesn't work the same anymore, and the poor geek who has to set it up is left fighting with the snarling mess of cables. If Apple fixes this, it would be a good thing and a profitable thing.
 
brand said:
If you knew that Apple was working on this then you have nothing to be excited about since you already knew about it.
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So Steve has no reason to be excited when he actually launches a product because he has been working on them for quite a while! I am excited because this is a form of confirmation that it will be a reality soon! Geeze calm down lol.
 
Stella said:
In theory this sounds good, but in reality, less than good - if all files are stored on a remote server: Internet bandwidth limits are easily eaten up by videos alone - add music to the mix and limits will be exhausted pretty quickly.
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In reality, iTunes libraries aren't going anywhere. The rumor even suggests you could access network attached hard drives (at least TimeCapsule). Cloud based storage would just be an additional feature.
 
mags631 said:
I agree that Netflix is nice -- but the streaming movie selection sucks (in my opinion), and after having sifted through the B and C movies for the nth time with nothing good to watch, we decided to (and did) end our Netflix membership.
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Netflix is still HOT, but unless you bet on them getting their streaming act together, I would be short on NetFlix.

Netflix owns the mail to you DVD concept that killed Blockbuster, but to make the transition to streaming is critical for NetFlix, and I don't think they will do it as well as Google or Apple.

Google is the threat - not NetFlix.

My bet is still on Apple for doing it right.
 
Sounds interesting, but I wonder how much the "cloud" storage will be because you know they won't provide it for free.

Maybe they will team with AT&T!
 
ValSalva said:
Apple doesn't react, it innovates. LOL!
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Yeah, I halfway agree with that. They see, they plan, then they act. And when they act, they do it right.

They look at what's out there and say - "we could do that so much better. Let us do it right and we'll own that market."
 
A 99$ price point would be fantastic and would make it a market penetrator!

I'm not big on the cloud storage at this time and I would like any :apple:tv to at least have build to order storage. I have a 160GB model I take over to my in-laws house loaded with kids movies since they being old have embraced HDTV, but not the internet.
 
PCClone said:
And you could take a spelling class.
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Did it ever occur to you that not everyone on these forums is a native English speaker? I'm not saying this is necessarily the case here, but judging from the post it is certainly possible and perhaps probable.
 
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