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Good. They should probably partner up with Champions League or Europa League instead. Soccer is the future.
 
I don't care for NFL so it doesn't affect me, but I hope this streaming business crap doesn't get into my two choice sports which is hockey and baseball...

I honestly did not like the Apple Friday Night Baseball, the broadcast teams knew next to nothing about the Blue Jays beyond just reading stats. It paled in comparison to the home broadcast we get in Canada.

If Apple sticks to just 4-5 games a year per team, i don't care, I just won't watch those games, I'll listen on the radio or find a stream.

I don't think they'll stick their head into NHL hockey, or any other streaming service, since its not really all that profitable.
 
Nothing lost. The NFL is more about entertainment than sports anyway. It now appeals to the lowest common denominator in the viewing audience. Want excitement? Check out the Super Bowl halftime show! The glory days of the NFL were the sixties and seventies. I cannot even watch anymore. In addition, it is one of the few organizations that is actually more arrogant than Apple. Screw em.
 
Good decision. Who needs the NFL when Apple already has the rights to real football starting next year?
Soccer (real football) really isn't that popular in the U.S.. Most people don't watch it and I know I wont! I don't even subscribe to Apple TV+.
 
Why can't I pay to watch just the games I want to watch? I don't want a monthly bill... I don't want a package. Just charge me $5 per game. Doing this would get casual or non-sport fans more interested in participating.
 
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Honestly all I care about is my team. But, I live out of market and where I live my team is rarely broadcast unless it is a night game. Charge $100.00 a season to veiw my team only and I would jump at it.

I kmow its wishful thinking.
 
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I have never heard that term, its probably a joke.
Theres 8 billion people in the world and only a fraction of it bastardizes the name while calling another sport barely played with feet 'football'. Yah, beaten to death argument, but that's not the point... the issue is larger than that. It's as infuriating as Americas reluctance to get with the rest of the world using the metric system.
 
When you fire the dude that got you all the deals because he made a joke by repeating lines of a movie while off duty, negotiations evaporate. Also, football sucks.
 
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It was the savior for DTV. A incredible amount of DTV subscribers came to them only because of ST.


Not really 'saving' DTV if after the first 'free' year the subscribers fall away. Giving away free stuff works up until it does not result in long term revenue to cover the costs of the initial 'freebie' bribe. Otherwise just paying tons of money for subscriber churn.

DTV subscriber long term numbers have been falling for a long time during this whole Sunday Ticket multibilllion dollar pay out.

Similar to the bubble of AppleTV deployments when some of these streaming companies were handing them away 'almost free' (or very heavy discounts) if just signed up for service for 3-4 months. That is OK if folks stay for 3-4 years. But if they bolt after the minimal period term to get the free stuff that is really wasted money when do the analysis over a multiple year basis.

2007-2014 there is no huge raise. ( about 16M to 20M )

2014-2022 substantive declines. ( around 20M at the beginning and mostly massive losses last several years )



'Back in the 90's it saved them' doesn't really mean much. This is a different century and folks have way, way , way faster Internet and non cable options now. The pricing was radically different and the new customer acquisition costs were also radically different.
 
How many more years do i have to use **** stream sites. Get with it nfl. Just launch a solo streaming app, that’s available on every platform.
And charge $300 less than how much insane nfl ticket costs now.
Get as far away from directv as possible.
I agree with this. MLB, NBA, (NHL I assume) already do this. Blackout the local market and nationally televised games like MLB/NBA do to protect CBS/FOX/NBC/ESPN and your good
 
Broadcast is dying. Too bad NFL wants to milk that model a while longer at the expense of streaming customers like me with cash in hand. Apple could have revolutionized sports with rock-solid 4K and 8K streaming of content. Not too late to resurrect the XFL streaming only league.
 
Could be just the NFL.


https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-launches-exclusive-streaming-subscription-service-nfl


Drop the "Middle man" and do it themselves (well actually hiring an outsourcing contractor to do most of the work).

'Burying' the additional price they want to charge inside of a base service doesn't make much sense. ( in Prime cost or baseline Apple services cost ) .

It would be better all around if the costs were more direct. Now when CBS/NBC/ABC want to jack up local broadcast fees to in part for sky high sports content... they try to deflect blame on Comcast/Dish/DirecTV. ( Mean live TV service vendor is trying to 'take away' your NFL game ... call them and complain.). When it is largely really players and NFL have jacked up the prices of broadcasting the games much higher and just passing it along.

Why Apple (or Google or Amazon) would want to give NFL (or other sports league) shelter from their direct inflationary cost increases I have no clue. ? Chasing after sports stuff with these 'affordable' yearly subscription fees for recorded content is likely ruinous in the long term.

All of this super extensive content bundling is bad. Making people pay for high cost stuff they don't watch ... eventually catches up and causes problems.
They had planned to do that for several years. Running it under the auspices of NFL films. But they just recently sold NFL films. I suppose they could re-create something new. But they would suck at it and think that we should all pay a thousand dollars a season for the games. Unlike what they did in the rest of the world. They already have a steaming service and offer the games at a very reasonable price.
 
Not really 'saving' DTV if after the first 'free' year the subscribers fall away. Giving away free stuff works up until it does not result in long term revenue to cover the costs of the initial 'freebie' bribe. Otherwise just paying tons of money for subscriber churn.

DTV subscriber long term numbers have been falling for a long time during this whole Sunday Ticket multibilllion dollar pay out.

Similar to the bubble of AppleTV deployments when some of these streaming companies were handing them away 'almost free' (or very heavy discounts) if just signed up for service for 3-4 months. That is OK if folks stay for 3-4 years. But if they bolt after the minimal period term to get the free stuff that is really wasted money when do the analysis over a multiple year basis.

2007-2014 there is no huge raise. ( about 16M to 20M )

2014-2022 substantive declines. ( around 20M at the beginning and mostly massive losses last several years )



'Back in the 90's it saved them' doesn't really mean much. This is a different century and folks have way, way , way faster Internet and non cable options now. The pricing was radically different and the new customer acquisition costs were also radically different.
When I say savior you have to remember that I was a subscriber for 27 years. I go way back to the beginning of DTV. They would have never gotten most of their subs without ST.
 
I guess I will continue to stream NFL illegally as I have for past decade or so.
So you aren’t going to pay because it will be on Amazon or Google instead of Apple? I find that hard to believe. People use NFLST to watch their favorite out of market team. These tend to be die hard fans and will pay no matter what service it is on.
 
Apple backing out doesn't make sense, and the $6.99 deal doesn't sound profitable, considering the MLS cost of an additional $14.99/mo. Why would Apple do that? Who knows, maybe they are dropping these stories to drop a perception they want to acquire to strategically land a deal covertly by throwing off the competition.
My speculation... NFL wanted Apple to maintain the $300-$450 price point. Apple wouldn't do it.
 
I'm not buying Apple wanted to include it in the 6.99 price. Thats just stupid. The MLS deal isn't included in the 6.99 price so why would they want the NFL to be included in that. Terrible rumors with no substance.
I'm not buying that it's wise to form a conclusion off the limited knowledge provided in this article. Apple is streaming a significant number of MLS matches at no additional cost for Apple TV+ subscribers. It's reasonable to think they may have wanted to air X number of games each week at no cost to Apple TV+ subscribers too. Which, if you think about it, sounds a lot like what FOX and CBS do... which suddenly makes the NFL's concerns about what FOX and CBS will think seem a bit more reasonable.

Let's see how things play out, and then draw conclusions.
 
You have 10 teams paying their QB over $35million a year. Tennessee is paying Ryan Tannehill $29million for gods sake. It's not just the owners who are getting rich.
Now, why did you have to go mention Tannehill? Dude’s contract has handcuffed us for 3 years.
 
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