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This is Bloomberg, not some published-in-the-home-basement online rag. They have very high journalistic standards for sourcing.
That might the case but I am thinking Bloomberg should have then interview a few face technology experts and have them comment on what would be the minimum accuracy required that will also not generate too many false positives. For all we know Apple may crank out more calculations on the A11 to overcome this issue
 
If people aren't buying the iPhone 8 because they want the X, but then the X is in short supply for the rest of the year, then sales will be down because people won't be able to get the device they want and probably won't get the 8 either.

I expect that sales of the 8 will go up after Friday or at least Nov 3, as many people who can't get the X will go for the 8 instead. I think many people are waiting to see if they can get the X, and if not they'll go for the 8.
All true, but the use of the word “despite” means the author is using 8 sales figures to predict X sales regardless of supply. Maybe semantics, but overall I think this is a flawed piece of journalism also containing some interesting tidbits about supply chain and cutting edge tech.
 
I’m still buying the iPhone X for my family. Made-up rumors don’t affect my purchasing decisions.




It’s absolutely amazing to me that people will automatically accept negative rumors about Apple.

Agree. but where is everyone talking about the issues with Pixel XL's crappy screen. issues with Pixel, etc.
I will say this, when you are number 1 and Apple really is, you are always being held by higher standards but you are also more prone to being bullied and people will try to bring you down no matter what. On the other hand, poor google that makes a super phone that has poor manufacturing choices... that is not an issue.
 
All these comments with "fake news" I'm sorry to be the one to tell you... most real journalists verify their sources. It could be as simple as an employee who doesn't like the reduced standards and has decided to speak out. Why would he give his name? It would cost him his job. Many times the 'unnamed" sources are higher ups who have direct knowledge of the information which is why they are knowledgable on the subject. I believe the story. I also believe if Apple didn't feel the quality of the product was inferior they wouldn't ship it out. Maybe they will accept a higher fail rate among the phones and we will have "sensor" gate and people trying to get it replaced. But stop thinking the media is out to take people down. Thats just ridiculous.
 
While not verified, it's interesting to see how many people are rejecting the idea that this could happen. It's a shame that diehard customers have ended up being testers for its first-gen products in the past. I could see them delaying production until after product announcement to prevent leaks, but unfortunately all stories point to this tech not being ready for launch. Prove us wrong Apple!
 
There's problems with the timeline.

This article, although fun, isn't particularly enlightening. Read the original article.
 
To really know whether or not this is an issue, we'd need to know how accurate it was in the first place and how much it was reduced by.

If it was ridiculously accurate at first, and they reduced it by 5% to get these made, (it was 95% accurate and now it's down to 90%) it's probably not a huge issue. If it was just accurate enough not to need people to retry 80% of the time, and now we're down to 50%, that is a problem.
 
Postive rumors with unverified sources: "Yay. Go Apple! I'm excited for such and such device!"

Negative rumor or something bad to say about Apple with unverified sources: "No way this is true. Clickbait!"


Positive rumours with unverified sources: "BS. Apple PR team in full swing. Apple only want to please investors. No way this is true!"

Negative rumour or something bad to say about Apple with unverified sources: "See we told you that Apple is cheating its consumers. I am a scientist of a Trillion Dollar company and this is holy grail and truth. Apple is doomed. Tim Cook sucks he should resign."

It works both ways !!!
 
You will have to elaborate on that a bit more for me. The way I see it, Apple could assuage its consumer-base and retain its competitive edge by confirming its product remains unchanged from its initial presentation.

Unfortunately, many companies change their products in sometimes significant ways between a product's announcement and it's distribution (e.g., panel types in displays / monitors, contents of board games--I'm looking at you Gale Force 9, etc.) to meet demand and reduce cost.
Yes but Apple is unlike many companies. Apple never comments on anything from the get-go. Maybe if the issue would become like a wildfire then they maybe step in and give further info.
 
The more and more I read about the FaceID issues, the more and more I'm glad I decided to go for an 8 Plus. I couldn't care one bit if my phone has a slight bezel at the bottom. A simple tap and my phone is open no matter how I'm using my phone. The idea of having to stare at my phone, and swipe up to unlock is just painful, but what do I know? I'm only the average consumer that buys this stuff....

TouchID is brilliant technology and was embraced from the start. Even Woz is skeptical with FaceID technology which adds more woes to Apple. Not to mention the constant talk of "fragility" makes me worry if it's robust enough to be put inside a phone. Once it's mounted, does it continue to be fragile or will Apple be inundated with returns?

As others have mentioned, they should have gone OLED with a Touch ID sensor on the back.
 
Tim Cook sounded upbeat about production and supply progress earlier in the week; i am paying :apple: not all these rumour mongers:rolleyes:
 
Millions are still going to buy one.
Yes because the user experience will be unchanged. Do you really think that they just told the supplier: "Nah just throw something in there. A glass marble maybe?"
You are pretty easy to convince huh?
 
"However, as the report notes, a downgraded Face ID will probably still be far more accurate thanTouch ID, where the odds of someone other than the owner of a phone being able to unlock it are one in50,000."

This doesn't even make sense. I think you meant more secure. Accurate relates to how well it works, not how secure it is.
 
Touch ID is very very very good at 1:50,000 accuracy. Even if they got Face ID to that level, I'm pretty sure it'd still maintain outstanding accuracy.
 
Huh? What do sales have to do with production? What doea sales have to do with low yields on sensors? If they sell 5 million phones on Friday, and Apple could only make 3 million ready for launch day, that is a production issue. Production of devices usually starts several months before launch day, yet production for the X didn't begin until mid September. FACT.

No, you’re still wrong.

What is it about the word “rumor” that you don’t understand?
 
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It's clear from the comments in here that no one has any experience designing and shipping actual products. Every single product has compromises in order to make shipping deadlines. Apple products are no different. Most Apple products are very well made and never noticeably suffer from those compromises. I fail to see how Face ID will be any different.
 
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