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Honestly this seems like the kind of news that Apple would respond to and shut down with the quickness. I know they don’t comment on rumors, but when it comes to security I feel like they should release a statement and nip this in the butt.
 
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The more and more I read about the FaceID issues, the more and more I'm glad I decided to go for an 8 Plus. I couldn't care one bit if my phone has a slight bezel at the bottom. A simple tap and my phone is open no matter how I'm using my phone. The idea of having to stare at my phone, and swipe up to unlock is just painful, but what do I know? I'm only the average consumer that buys this stuff....

TouchID is brilliant technology and was embraced from the start. Even Woz is skeptical with FaceID technology which adds more woes to Apple. Not to mention the constant talk of "fragility" makes me worry if it's robust enough to be put inside a phone. Once it's mounted, does it continue to be fragile or will Apple be inundated with returns?

As others have mentioned, they should have gone OLED with a Touch ID sensor on the back.
Oh how horrible! You have to look at your phone? Truly horrific.
But sure, let's go ahead and judge a phone based on rumours! That makes sense.

And there is one big difference between being difficult to make and not being robust after being manufactured. One thing does not imply the other thing. The hands in a watch are also very fragile when handling them, but after they are mounted they do not break.
And if you think Touch ID was embraced from the very beginning then you are very mistaken. A lot of people were not very fond of the idea-
 
If true, in combination with the overall concerns over the new technology, I assume Apple will not be happy about this leak. For me the response of Apple on this will be essential to see.
What could Apple possibly add? They will say that all products they release meet their requirements and customer expectations. And all of their customers will probably agree. This is a non-story the same way that we have stories every year complaining about the size of batteries or the underclocking of modems or CPUs. Customers will not perceive any issues so it's a non-issue.
 
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Given the massive difference in accuracy between Touch ID and Face ID (1 in 50,000 vs 1 in 1,000,000), Apple has a bit of leeway here. They could make it 1 in a 100,000 and still beat Touch ID. They can always improve accuracy in the next release cycle. I'd rather have availability and detection speed first with slightly lower accuracy than not enough.

The nice thing is that they could use all those less accurate parts for adding depth sensing on the front camera for other mobile devices.
 
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Two things. I doubt this will affect the user experience at all. If you never saw this article like 95% of potential apple X buyers, you wouldn't think anything of Face ID accuracy if it still is more accurate than touch id. Second, don't buy 1st gen apple products. Every time people fall for "Apple magic" of the first release and are upset when the 2nd gen version comes out and completely blows it out the water.
 
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Touch ID is very very very good at 1:50,000 accuracy. Even if they got Face ID to that level, I'm pretty sure it'd still maintain outstanding accuracy.
Thank you. Someone who finally said what I was thinking. Touch ID was industry leading. Even if the accuracy of Face ID should be cut in half it would still be 10 times more secure then Touch ID. But yeah, some of the guys and girls on here just wait to bash this phone and pull everything out of context.
 
Yep waiting for revision 2 and ordering an SE is looking like a better and better decision
 
If you don’t think this iPhone X was a last second attempt to get it out this year then you’re delusional. They had no intentions of releasing it this year. Hence the 8 and 8 plus aka the “7S.”
 
This is just clickbait on Bloomberg's part IMO. Unnamed source said Apple reduces quality.

Baseless accusations I think. Just trying to get a few ad views from the hype/rumours.
Yeah that’s not actually how professional journalism works, despite all the hoopla about “fake news” these days. Bloomberg certainly has a source, and it’s not anonymous or unreliable. Does that mean it’s 100% accurate? Not necessarily, but it’s coming from somewhere reliable enough for Bloomberg to print.
 
Huh? What do sales have to do with production? What doea sales have to do with low yields on sensors? If they sell 5 million phones on Friday, and Apple could only make 3 million ready for launch day, that is a production issue. Production of devices usually starts several months before launch day, yet production for the X didn't begin until mid September. FACT.
Correction: The components are being produced months in advance. The assembly of the iPhone only starts in the weeks before the Keynote. So for Apple to start in September is more than normal. Do you really think the assembled phones just sit around for a few months before being delivered?
 
Their response is no response. Not a denial, just silence.

It’s probably no big deal tbh. FaceID was already much more secure than TouchID. It probably still is, despite this.
If true, in combination with the overall concerns over the new technology, I assume Apple will not be happy about this leak. For me the response of Apple on this will be essential to see.
 
Hmmm now anyone can open my phone with my Facebook profile pic - showing that to phone! What a mess created by Tim. He may be at Steve's grave finding next innovation.
 
The question is really "how much less accurate". You can become less accurate without it making a material difference (except at the margins).
 
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But as you can plainly see here on MacRumors the majority bought it hook, line, and sinker. But then they always buy any negative rumor or “report” as the gospel truth.
Kinda sad. I mean people here should know better. This is a rumor site. There’s a lot of BS. If this report had some credible sources, then okay. But just some random article... nah.
 
Honestly this seems like the kind of news that Apple would respond to and shut down with the quickness. I know they don’t comment on rumors, but when it comes to security I feel like they should release a statement and nip this in the butt.

Unless the lowering of the standard materially changes the level of Face-ID's security (1 in 1m) that Apple has already stated there is no reason for Apple to open up a Pandora's box here.

Now I would expect professional reviewer's -- esp. the elite ones that will have the first units -- to ask Apple if their unit has an original sensor or a modified one and to include that info -- or Apple's non-answer -- in the review. That is their job. As a consumer, I'm not phased about this report one way or the other.

Those of us that use Apple products over other makers already put an enormous amount of faith in the company that they will, to the extent the law allows, protect our personal information and security. So if this tweak is true is nothing to me until it's proven to significantly hamper use or security. Barring that it's just another of millions of internal changes that has no real effect on my usage of the product.
 
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2 possible situations:

1. It was 2,000,000:1 and it went down to 1,000,000:1 accuracy (conference figure)
2. It was 1,000,000:1 and went down to 500,000:1 accuracy (post conference figure)
 
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