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Wat. There has only been one ios screen size bump ever

I was thinking of iPhone to iPad. And iPhone 4S -> iPhone 5 and iPad -> iPad mini

Funny thing was, the iPad was like a bigger iPod Touch, and when they made the iPod Touch bigger, somehow the camera didn't fit anymore. :D
 
Could this be a beginning of Apple's inevitable merging of iOS and OSX?

You know Windows 8 was a great idea. It's just that Microsoft executed it terribly, Apple on the other hand is known for taking ideas that are already out there and making them work beautifully.
 
By the time it ships, we will have known about this supposed iPad Pro for almost a year. That alone makes it seem like ********.

I'm convinced it has to be something else for it to take that long. Apple is not opposed to shipping a product before it's actually completed or outside of a normal cycle. Look at the 3rd Gen iPad which is the bitch-slapped step child of iPads. Or Retina MacBook Pros with burn-in LG displays.

I'll guess it's a type of device with OS X running on ARM, to be previewed at WWDC in Q2 2014. Because I'm optimistic like that.
 
Could this be a beginning of Apple's inevitable merging of iOS and OSX?

If this item is a touch OSX device, a MacPad, then yes.
If this is just a large iPad, not so much.

An evolution to a MacPad would be my wish. Such a device would spell the inevitable merge, and would provide consumers with lighter laptops using full OSX. Maybe we could even see MacProPads in a few years.
 
That's all it needs to be good for. It's a product designed to appeal to a specific market that wants a larger screened, more capable iPad to use for more work intensive projects. Want to digital paint, work on a document, jot down music on a sheet, look at schematics, do a bit of coding? Pick the Pro. For everyone else, they've got the Air and the Mini to choose from.

But we artists have Cintiqs. And Wacom even released a 1K one if you're on a budget and can't shell out 3K+, so unless this ipad is that good with pressure sensitivity, accuracy AND has a proper stylus, no serious artist will consider it. Specially since it won't be much cheaper than the cheapest Cintiq.

There's more to artists' work than a big screen.
 
But we artists have Cintiqs. And Wacom even released a 1K one if you're on a budget and can't shell out 3K+, so unless this ipad is that good with pressure sensitivity, accuracy AND has a proper stylus, no serious artist will consider it. Specially since it won't be much cheaper than the cheapest Cintiq.

There's more to artists' work than a big screen.

I'm well aware of that. A Wacom style digitizer is practically a must for a bigger iPad.
 
There's nothing stopping Apple from implementing this on their iPad mini & iPad Air.

Nope. Not a thing. Though I think (as in total supposition on my part) that this would be one of the defining feature for a pro iPad. Something to separate it from the rest of the line up besides size.

And of course putting a digitizer in the smaller iPads would raise the price by at least $50.
 
If this item is a touch OSX device, a MacPad, then yes.
If this is just a large iPad, not so much.

An evolution to a MacPad would be my wish. Such a device would spell the inevitable merge, and would provide consumers with lighter laptops using full OSX. Maybe we could even see MacProPads in a few years.

I would like that!

I imagine future, like this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH6raQzCV3w

Only executed better and wireless. When you enter your room, monitor, keyboard, mouse automatically connect and you can use a desktop OSX, when you leave, everything gets suspended(things like Safari tabs get shared between UIs) and a mobile UI kicks in.
 
I still think the regular iPad is too big. Coming from someone who's had an iPad 2 and 3... the iPad mini is still my favorite. My roommate even wants to get rid of his iPad for a mini. It's huge and heavy.
 
Nope. Not a thing. Though I think (as in total supposition on my part) that this would be one of the defining feature for a pro iPad. Something to separate it from the rest of the line up besides size.

And of course putting a digitizer in the smaller iPads would raise the price by at least $50.

I definitely see your point but I don't think that would be such a wise move. Apple did a smart move by making the iPad mini & the iPad Air essentially the same device in terms of performance, features, and screen resolution. The only difference is screen size. So those who want maximum portability buy the mini and those prefer the 9.7" screen buy the Air, and there's no performance penalty. On top of that, they've gone to great lengths, through their advertising (iPad Life, iPad Verse) to showcase the creative capabilities of both iPads.

IDEALLY, I would love for Apple to keep this trend going. That way consumers only have to choose between screen size without taking any hit in performance or capabilities. Again, I'm talking ideally. At the very least they should add the digitizer to the current 9.7" iPad Air. That device has proven itself to more than capable at creative tasks. Why hamper it?
 
Bigger iPad, Bigger iPhone etc, etc... yet the Thunderbolt Display is still the 2011 model.
Come on Apple, people are waiting or buying used ones on eBay.

No one wants to pay $1200 (Aust) for a 2011 display.
 
IPad in terms of hardware has come to a point that it's waiting for iOS to truly innovate. If a 12.1 iPad does happen maybe we will see just that to take better advantage of the bigger screen.

We might have elements from a desktop interface like drag and drop because there would be room for multi split documents etc.

Also I remember around 2007 seeing a patent that looked like an iPad but had OSX style dock and test showed multiple windows. Also an interesting patent was a digitizer where the screen had photo cells embedded

I do think at some point we will see greater convergence with OSX as iOS feels limited at times.:)
 
Please no... This will simply be a dumb move. Just like having 4"+ phone is.

Yes... because pretty much no one wants a 4" or smaller phone anymore, totally dumb move.

Do you know how many people pick a different phone because of the awful screen size of iPhones? The 4" iPhone screen shape was a deterrent for many.

Bet you $$$ if they put out an iPhone 4.5-4.9 inch screen, the majority of new phones sold would be the bigger size. There is a reason EVERY OTHER PHONE MAKER has vastly moved away from anything smaller than 4.2" displays except on budget phones..... because the majority of people want it.

Just because you don't does change sheer statistical fact.

Every poll, what do you want in the next iphone.... wow, it's always a bigger screen. Why don't we have it? Because this is the apple way.... give people something that's been around forever and then act like god granting prayers
 
If this item is a touch OSX device, a MacPad, then yes.
If this is just a large iPad, not so much.

An evolution to a MacPad would be my wish. Such a device would spell the inevitable merge, and would provide consumers with lighter laptops using full OSX. Maybe we could even see MacProPads in a few years.

There have been a lot of articles lately citing that Apple's motivation with this is more about being on par with what Microsoft is doing.

I take all this with a grain of salt, because what apples playing with in the lab and what they release can be night and day.

I think Apple's intentions all along were eventually to have a windows 8 like device/experience, but we know Apple likes to do these incremental updates to suck out whatever they can....

When Apple was first developing the iPad (well before the iPhone) it was poised to be more a MacPad than the iPad.... and this is an example of how what was in the lab was far from what hit store shelves. The software developed for that project was far more feature rich than the first several versions of IOS (even had multitasking and allowed two things to run side by side, something the iPad still does not do, and that was what, ten years ago?)

I think we'll get a better idea if this will be IOS 8 on a big ass screen, or have a hybrid feel come this years developers conference. If they are finally innovating and getting up to speed with everyone else out there, they will need developers on board.
 
http://www.macstories.net/stories/thinking-about-an-ipad-pro/

This article sums up my thoughts perfectly as to why an iPad pro simply makes zero sense, and might actually be a bad idea.

1. We, currently, don't know whether Apple adds multi-window / pane multitasking. If they add it, the Pro will be REALLY useful.

2, the article doesn't mention Wacom / pen input. That's another VERY useful feature on a 13" tablet. Think PDF annotating etc. - that's MUCH easier on a 13" tablet than on a 9.7" one.

I've tried PDF annotation on my 10" Wacom tablets (e.g., the HP TC1100) well before the first iPad. The screen size was just inadequate compared to the traditional paper approach. With a significantly larger screen, annotating PDF's with a pen may not be significantly harder / more cumbersome than doing so with printed A4 pages any more.
 
They rushed an ugly and buggy iOS 7 onto the market, why wouldn't they rush a new buggy iPad too? We're starting to see the Apple that is run by shareholders, rather than leadership with vision. Just like Apple's last "post Jobs" era.

Maybe we pro users will luck out again when Apple is forced to return to niche pro user marketing when the rest of the handheld market catches up with their cheep crap that's marginally "good enough", and the iWatch is a flop on the market because wearable computing is for the kind of geek that people still hate.

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1. We, currently, don't know whether Apple adds multi-window / pane multitasking. If they add it, the Pro will be REALLY useful.

No, that will utterly defeat the entire POINT of iOS and its focused functionality. Single tasking environments make sense to people who aren't geeks. You want to undo all the progress Apple made on computing appliances by making iOS as complicated to operate as desktop setups?

Oh wait, Apple has already started breaking iOS with iOS 7.
 
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