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It's an expensive toy that does everything an iPhone can do and nothing a real computer can, so it occupies a weird niche where it's not more useful for anything other light web browsing and watching movies in your bed.

My iPad lets me do certain tasks better than I could on my laptop at work. Please don't presume to speak for me or others like me.
 
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A clear beat.

AAPL stock is at its record high in AH, so congratulations longs, enjoy a good cup of champagne. This is only the beginning of a monster ramp up to a fair valuation.

AAPL is always supposed to go down on earnings reports. Didn't you get that memo?
 
That's the same argument thrown around for the 2016 MBP and yet unit sales and - especially - revenues were up since it was released. And now with the refresh, we're seeing the same.

And I love my 2017 iMac 5K. :D
I was answering why Apple should care if people are buying new MBP models and being unhappy enough with them to return or resell. Yes, profit may be initially good for Apple but how many repeat customers will Apple have? Be honest, the current MBP design does sacrifice too much performance for the sake of "thinner".

Glad you like your iMac.
 
Ever since Steve died the only thing Craig did was reskin the OS and made it technologically redundant compared to Windows.

Maybe they can afford to develop a modern macOS with modern APIs and proper drivers now. Users are tired and angry of the slow ageing APIs, crippled drivers, and proprietary hardware.

Or maybe forcing macOS users to keep upgrading crippled systems is the only way to keep the stock price high.
 
people are buying new MBP models and being unhappy enough with them to return or resell. Yes, profit may be initially good for Apple but how many repeat customers will Apple have?

If you’re going to throw aspersions around it might be good to show some evidence, any evidence(note: my imaginary friends who totally are totally smart, bought a known quantity and then returned because it was exactly what it proclaimed to be is not evidence) that there’s anyway unusual pattern of people being “unhappy with them to return or resell” in any abnormal numbers. I don’t think you have that though. It’s nought more than mental gymnastics.

Ever since Steve died the only thing Craig did was reskin the OS and made it technologically redundant compared to Windows.

Maybe they can afford to develop a modern macOS with modern APIs and proper drivers now. Users are tired and angry of the slow ageing APIs, crippled drivers, and proprietary hardware.

Or maybe forcing macOS users to keep upgrading crippled systems is the only way to keep the stock price high.

“Steve died”, “Crippled APIs” and “technically redundant compared to Windows” are enough to reduce your credibility to zero. Take a deep breath and post something about the actual limitations and trade offs of macOS and especially Mac hardware (and I know actually you plenty about them, having read your posts over the last couple of years) and it might be taken seriously but this stuff is ridiculous. Raising The Ghost of Steve, criticizing some of the most elegant and modern APIs (core* against win32, the API that any power Windows apps is written in? Really?) and comparing the s**tshow that is Windows in general is not credible. The Windows/PC platform has some technical niche advantages for sure, why not post rationally about them, and why not in a thread or sub forum that’s actually relevant.
 
“Steve died”, “Crippled APIs” and “technically redundant compared to Windows” are enough to reduce your credibility to zero.

Your post is abusive and ignorant. You're. It only talking to a renowned pro and bench tester but also someone who has been beta tester for Adobe and Apple since the 90s.

We creative professionals and gamers post about these issues a thousand (more than that) times a day across various forums on this site and others. If you missed it, you have no right to insult other people's credibility. Apple has acknowledge that our feelings are universal and unanimous. They promise to address it, but from the look of High Sierra satisfactory results won't be coming soon.
 
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That first chart is stacking the category revenues. The iPad being on top doesn't mean it has the largest revenue. Its revenue is represented only by the gray portion of the graph.

Thanks. Explained then.
 
Oh man. The pretzel-like knots people are trying themselves in to try to explain away these numbers. "These legally binding figures aren't true", "they're only because of a cheaper iPad" and, my personal favorite,"people are buying them but then selling them again because they hate them".

And we haven't even heard from most of the usual suspects yet. *grabs popcorn*
Not to mention Apple is fudging the numbers or TC is lying. (Well to be fair that wasn't said outright, but that's the net pov on some posts)
 
Your post is abusive and ignorant. You're. It only talking to a renowned pro and bench tester but also someone who has been beta tester for Adobe and Apple since the 90s.

We creative professionals and gamers post about these issues a thousand (more than that) times a day across various forums on this site and others. If you missed it, you have no right to insult other people's credibility. Apple has acknowledge that our feelings are universal and unanimous. They promise to address it, but from the look of High Sierra satisfactory results won't be coming soon.

If you re-read my post you’ll see I acknowledge your expertise. I simply asked you to address those points, rather than nonsense post, invoking the ghost of Steve. They help or inform no-one.
 
iPhone is really taking over
It's funny how despite the "Other" category expanding with products Apple 'can't keep up with the demand', that it hasn't really grown significantly in percentage share since the Apple Watch was introduced.
 
Apple is a solid stock that consistently performs well. The company has history of making stuff people want to buy.

...and there's still so many stupid financial sites, big ones even, that are always running headlines about how it's about to crash, gonna bottom out, sell now, buy short, etc etc. These financial people are some of the stupidest in any industry.
 
It's funny how despite the "Other" category expanding with products Apple 'can't keep up with the demand', that it hasn't really grown significantly in percentage share since the Apple Watch was introduced.

If by "hasn't grown significantly" you mean "almost doubled since Q1 2015 from 3.6% to 6%" then, yes, that's funny.

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Heh. Someone always has to have their pun detector off -- even as a flaming smile emoticon is part of the sentence -- and then get offended because they miss interpreted what the OP was saying.

Let's look at what OP said and I'll bold for emphasis to make it easier for you to get his joke --



Also there is nothing negative here. Now go have a candy bar or a bourbon and have a laugh.

Someone always thinks someone is offended because they make a comment. Now go have yourself a candy bar. :)
 
Someone always thinks someone is offended because they make a comment. Now go have yourself a candy bar. :)

Yes, but in your case I actually read your "outrage," It was clear you didn't get OP's pun. I didn't have to think it. ;)
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It's an expensive toy that does everything an iPhone can do and nothing a real computer can, so it occupies a weird niche where it's not more useful for anything other light web browsing and watching movies in your bed.

Yes, right. It's really practical to edit long PDFs on an iPhone. Yes, right drawing a magazine cover like this one on an iPhone is ideal. Sure, people love to go to meetings and take notes on their iPhone.

Your argument is silly and uninformed. iPads use iOS but they are not iPhones. iPads do not have Mac OS but that doesn't mean they don't have overlapping functionality with Macs -- especially with the arrival of iOS 11 with vastly improved multitasking, split screen, and file storage.
 
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The fed is illegal if you look it up, Apple needs to build in the USA.
If you really looked into it, a lot things the state does is technically illegal. Doesn't stop anything.
The taxes and regulations that affect the entire us manufacturing economy artificially drives up costs and prices out US workers.
Of course we don't want an unregulated industry, but I'm sure there are a lot of smart people in the private sector who can come up with more innovative and intelligent ways of keeping our environment clean as compared to the one size fits all sledgehammer methods of the EPA.
 
If by "hasn't grown significantly" you mean "almost doubled since Q1 2015 from 3.6% to 6%" then, yes, that's funny.

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Apple Watch wasn't included in 1st Quarter results from 2015. Apple's fiscal 1st quarter starts in October. The Apple watch wasn't released until the middle of the 3rd Quarter 2015 results (And there wouldn't be a full quarter comparison due to supply constraints until the 4th Quarter 2015). So that's the graph you need to pull, which also conveniently aligns to the current 2017 third quarter reported. If it's still that close, then I'll admit I misremembered.
 
Apple Watch wasn't included in 1st Quarter results from 2015. Apple's fiscal 1st quarter starts in October. The Apple watch wasn't released until the middle of the 3rd Quarter 2015 results (And there wouldn't be a full quarter comparison due to supply constraints until the 4th Quarter 2015). So that's the graph you need to pull, which also conveniently aligns to the current 2017 third quarter reported. If it's still that close, then I'll admit I misremembered.

The numbers you're looking for are:

Q2 2015 2.9%
Q3 2015 5.3%
Q4 2015 5.9%

Q3 2017 6.0%

Those are the quarters before, of, and after Apple Watch launched, as well as the most recent quarter.
 
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