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Wow, those iPhone numbers without Apple even doing anything.

I've been hoping for halo effects as for the Mac sales, but they don't seem to be happening much. I can understand falling sales due to the desktop and laptop market falling in marketshare overall, but still... Apple should be able to do better, with the tons of old PC laptops around. They seem to miss a lot of switcher opportunities despite all those iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads. *shrug*

I think there is particular room for improvement there, not that I'm sure what there is to be done.
 
Really surprised by the weakness with iPad...

Then again I still see a lot of happy iPad-1 users, so they just need to update it more with feature that really make people come back and upgrade.

With the iPhone they are doing more progress in my opinion.

Let's face it, you end up doing a lot more on your iPhone than iPad. I have both, I get work done on my iPhone, I waste time browse the internet on my iPad -- or worse yet, shop!

I see myself keeping my iPad 3 to its last day.
 
It seems to me they need to convince people that they need to upgrade their old products and prove that Apple products are better than everyone else's. There are times when Apple seems light years ahead of everyone else, and right now everyone else seems to have (almost, in my opinion) caught up. To charge that premium on their devices they have to be unquestionably better.

I maintain that Apple has the best hardware, software, content, and product integration on the market, but people don't care about Retina Displays on their devices when Samsung phones, for example, have similar resolution to the iPhone 5 and the customer just figures bigger is better. It'll help when iOS 7 comes out and makes things more fresh on their mobile devices, but I'm just gonna say it: the iPhone 5's screen is still too small. Samsung's screens are too big in my opinion, but the iPhone could use a 4.5" screen, or at least that option.

Of course, iPad and Mac sales being down relative to this time last year is unsurprising, given that last year the Retina iPad had come out in March and the entire MacBook lineup had been overhauled in June. 2012's plan seemed like a better one than the plan this year.
 
I'm surprised iPads and Macs are so close....I always thought iPads are WAY bigger than that.

They were...

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So, Apple isn't doomed ?

Apple today published its financial results for its third fiscal quarter of 2013, reporting a $6.9 billion profit on $35.3 billion in revenue. That's roughly level in revenue terms with last year's $35 billion revenue, but profit was down a massive 21.6 percent from the same period's $8.8 billion.

Depends if you think a 21.6% decline in profit is doomed?

Source: The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/23/4548946/apple-q3-2013-earnings

Should be interesting to hear Tim explain this during the conference call.
 
Pretty crazy to think just 10 years ago, the iPhone and iPad categories wouldn't have existed (69%), and iPod revenues would probably be 35x as much.

Don't even have to go that far. Take a look at the results exactly 6 years ago.

Apple® today announced financial results for its fiscal 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007. The Company posted revenue of $5.41 billion and net quarterly profit of $818 million, or $.92 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $4.37 billion and net quarterly profit of $472 million, or $.54 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 36.9 percent, up from 30.3 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 40 percent of the quarter’s revenue.

Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers, representing 33 percent growth over the year-ago quarter and exceeding the previous company record for quarterly Mac® shipments by over 150,000. The Company also sold 9,815,000 iPods during the quarter, representing 21 percent growth over the year-ago quarter.

TOTAL revenue was $5.4B. (ocompared to $6.9B profit now!). $2.53B on Macs and 1.57B on iPods. So iPods were still not even 30% of their revenue.
 
Apple today published its financial results for its third fiscal quarter of 2013, reporting a $6.9 billion profit on $35.3 billion in revenue. That's roughly level in revenue terms with last year's $35 billion revenue, but profit was down a massive 21.6 percent from the same period's $8.8 billion.

Depends if you think a 21.6% decline in profit is doomed?

Source: The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/23/4548946/apple-q3-2013-earnings

Should be interesting to hear Tim explain this during the conference call.

Maybe the fact that only an updated Air has been released so far this year?
 
The new iPad 3 had just gone on sale in the corresponding quarter last year.
Yep.

Apple really screwed up there... announcing three iPads in a period of 6 months. Now customers don't know what to expect as even today, there are rumours of a new iPad both in September and early 2014. Apple needs to settle this.

I preferred the 'old' product schemes: iPad in March, iPhone in the middle (June/July) and iPod in the fall + Macs throughout the year.
 
Apple's Mac business, on its own, would be a Fortune 500 company.


Fortune 500 now or when it was said a few years ago? Keep in mind the decline in the overall PC market over the past couple of years.

I don't doubt that the Mac alone can be its own business but I'm growing skeptical to it being a Fortune 500 company on its own with the current trajectory.
 
Not quite.

For all of 2003, Apple sold 939,000 iPods for $345 million in total revenue, versus 22.9 million iPods in 9 months of fiscal 2013 for $3.8 billion in revenue.

Pretty crazy that like 2% of revenue is $3.8 billion...
 
I think the dip in Mac sales is not just down to the iPad and tablets, it's also because the MacBook Pro line up is currently too expensive. Everyone wants the slimmer retina versions but the premium is too much for most.

In 12-18 months I'd expect Apple to do what the MacBook Air and drop the price considerably. When that happened, sales boomed!
 
Good to see... even with competition hotter than ever, Apple is maintaing well. It will be interesting to see how the new low cost iPhones and the iPhone 5s in the fall... This may be the start of another huge upswing!

I just hope they do something ultra cool with the TV soon so I can get some new toys! :)
 
Fortune 500 now or when it was said a few years ago? Keep in mind the decline in the overall PC market over the past couple of years.

I don't doubt that the Mac alone can be its own business but I'm growing skeptical to it being a Fortune 500 company on its own with the current trajectory.

Too lazy to go track down the numbers right now but it was said in October 2011 and that it would be # 110 on the Fortune 500. No way has it fallen out of the F500.
 
I think no new products/major refresh "hurt" them.

Profit is down almost 20% from same Q last year but again the profit is massive.

I don't expect stock to go up anytime this summer. This 5% upside is just quick reaction to "beat".

Glad they are offering $3 dividend.

Anyway, this is my personal opinion and I think Apple innovation is not visible in last few years and competition is definitely taking a bite out of Apple. Must do something to separate themselves from the crowd...again.
 
He already said it. From the earning press release

I meant that the stock could drop if Cook says something in the Q&A that people aren't expecting. Last quarter they weren't expecting fall/2014 for new products. The minute he said that the stock dropped severely.
 
Apple's Mac business, on its own, would be a Fortune 500 company.

Sorry, but one has nothing to do with the other.

When Macs were 100% of Apple, it was still not making headway in the PC market. By contrast, Macs could be 1% of Apple and market share could be growing.

You can't draw any conclusions about worldwide market share from the revenue breakdown.

You guys are boring. :rolleyes:
 
Samsung made $8.5 billion in profit. Smaller profit margin, but more profit.

Samsung is an enormous conglomerate; Apple sells about 18 products + accessories.

Also, how much of Samsung's profit was business FROM Apple? :)

But you are right, Samsung made more total profit but it was much less efficient doing it.
 
How about you stop being such a homer and read the damn report? As a long time holder of AAPL, that is worrying.

If its so worrying why is the stock up? This is Apple we're talking about. Not like Wall Street has been loving their stock lately.
 
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