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I actually think the criticism fired at Apple over poor QC lately is deserved. We're not talking about some middle-weight company, this is Apple, they do things right, it's why I spend most of my IT budget on their products.

Sure, the issues were relatively minor and were fixed extremely quickly, but still, this is Apple, they're the guys who do it right first time (usually) :)
 
Are you a stockholder? If not, why do you care? As a customer you get soldered ram macs with $300 ram upgrades and 16gig starting storage with iPhones. Yet you take glee in it. As a customer, you ought to be offended rather than cheerleading like a schoolgirl.

You talk as if Samsung phones are cheap. Have you seen the full retail prices of S5 and Note 4? They aren't cheap either. Yes, sure, Apple is gouging us but who else is going to make a cheaper iPhone that I want and love? Plus, this has nothing to do with owning stocks. I am simply comparing Apple and Samsung.
 
My enthusiasm is limited due to their attitude towards Mac users as of late.

They do better when they feel pressure to push themselves, not when the sales are in a positive light.

Glassed Silver:mac

Do better? They just pushed out a 5K display iMac at a very attractive price point, something "unpossible," even a year ago. I think you are mistaking Apple doing better with pleasing you personally. The Mac line up is mostly hobbled now because of Intel. The "hobbyist" upgrade market is DOA.

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IDC says iPhone has 69% share of US commercial smartphone market, also ChangeWave of corporate IT buyers, among those planning to purchase smartphones in December Quarter, 75% plan to purchase iPhones.

Now we know why Steve Ballmer resigned from the MS BOD and bought the Clippers. That # has to make MS very nervous about its mobile OS future. The 25% not buying iPhones are split between BB, Android, and MS.
 
This year's releases:

  • A new Mac Mini that's actually worse than the older one.
  • A "new" iPad Mini that is basically last year's model with a half-assed gold paintjob.
  • A new iPad Noob (where is the iPad Pro, Apple?).
  • A phablet.
  • The iPhone 6, which is actually nice, but marred by tons of quality control issues (call gate, bend gate, and so on).

Yep, a truly exciting year! :rolleyes::eek::mad::mad::mad:

But hey, Apple has bought Beats! Now they have a woman beater on the staff! Surely that's a recipe for success!
 
iPhone sales are new release bump. iWatch not generating much interest and will likely be niche.

Expected outcome.

Except each new iPhone sales bump is bigger. That's fairly notable.

A quality niche product with high margins is still very profitable, hell it's the whole principle behind Apple's rebirth to begin with.
 
My enthusiasm is limited due to their attitude towards Mac users as of late.[/i]
Yeah, giving Mac users a great free OS update, Retina iMacs, and cutting the prices on most Macs is awful. How could they?

They should magically wish Intel to make processors that are a meaningful upgrade over last year's CPU.
 
Just out of curiosity: Are you a shareholder?

Glassed Silver:mac

Yup.
Long long time ago, my sister convinced my mom to buy a bunch of shares....I thought it was a really stupid thing to do, but my sister loved the company. I was saying t-bills, she insisted on a part of the portfolio in this stock. I was a PC/enterprise guy and saw it is a toy. We argued, I lost.

Many years later, I shared an inheritance with her and I enjoy her needling me about it...she earned it.
 
Basically, Steve Jobs is responsible for 80% of Apple's current revenue.

Also, it's amazing how much iTunes contributes. Almost as much as iPads...

80%? Probably more like 98%. Nearly everything Apple sells to day is a legacy Jobs product. Cook hasn't been around long enough to make much impact on new product. His test comes next year w/ the Apple Watch roll out.
 
I'll just correct the errors for you-

This year's releases:

  • A new Mac Mini that's actually faster than the older one at lower prices, while eliminating one high-end config that nobody was buying.
  • A new iPad Mini that is basically last year's model with touch ID while cutting prices across the board.
  • The iWatch
  • The iPhone 6 Plus
  • The iPhone 6, which is actually nice, but marred by a bogus media story and a software bug that was fixed in one day
  • Retina iMacs

Yep, a truly exciting year!
Indeed. I agree completely.
 
"Best product pipeline in 25 years" my ass! iPhone 6, 6+, iPad Air 2, iMac with Retina Display, and OS X Yosemite were great updates. With that said, it is a shame though that the iPhone 6 and 6+ bend easily. Both models at the local stores are slightly bent by the volume buttons. Mac Mini update was meh but better than continuing to ignore it. No updates to their external monitors or regular iMacs. Nothing really going on with the MacBooks. iPod updates are nonexistent and not looking likely to happen in the foreseeable future. iPad mini 3 is literally just a iPad mini 2 with Touch ID and colored gold for an extra $100. Phil even looked uncomfortable mentioning it for 30ish seconds in the keynote. :apple: Watch doesn't count yet since it was only an announcement but even then the battery life and reliance on an iPhone are disappointing. On the software front, iOS 8 Health and iOS 8.0.1. They could repeat that same line and technically it would be true even though all know it's just misleading.
This wasn't intended as a rant or whining, but just a counterargument to Eddy's claim
 
So on the conference call Apple says :apple:Watch will be included in a new category called "other products". This category will include iPods and accessories. So Apple's new reporting will be:

iPhone
iPad
Mac
Services
Other Products
 
I actually think the criticism fired at Apple over poor QC lately is deserved. We're not talking about some middle-weight company, this is Apple, they do things right, it's why I spend most of my IT budget on their products.

Sure, the issues were relatively minor and were fixed extremely quickly, but still, this is Apple, they're the guys who do it right first time (usually) :)

Could you name a specific period when Apple usually did things right the first time?

I think Apple's reputation for quality is well-deserved, but I also remember that nearly every new product or update has had its naysayers, who complained that Apple just isn't as good as it once was. I predict that in a few years, this year will have slipped into that hazy period when Apple still made quality products.

There is probably a way to objectively compare different years for quality, but comparing NOW (when the current problems remain problems) with THEN (when the problems of the day were eventually solved and we mostly remember the end result) is not likely to objective.
 
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80%? Probably more like 98%. Nearly everything Apple sells to day is a legacy Jobs product. Cook hasn't been around long enough to make much impact on new product. His test comes next year w/ the Apple Watch roll out.

So how come we get so many "Steve wouldn't have" comments here?
 
It's breathtaking percent profit for a mainly consumer firm. Think of all those billions stashed offshore. Someone should have told Steve that he couldn't take it with him when he died.
 
Not surprising. Everyone is finally aware that iPads are practically toys that lack the versatility of Macs. Anything the iPad can do is already possible on the iPhone. Until they stop using a phone OS on tablets, the trend will continue.

Prolly because people realize it's not all that functional. With that screen size, you get more productivity out of a Macbook variant. And with bigger screens on iPhones, iPad won't see much sales from it's current level.

Admittedly, I use my iPad for productivity, but I find the experience MUCH more pleasant to deal with a Logitech BT Keyboard attached to it.

No, it is not because of that. Your statement doesn't follow the numbers:

"It sold 68 million iPads in 2014 and the company has now sold 237.2 million tablets."

"In 2014, Apple sold 18.9 million Macs".

It's simply because Macs are sold at a much higher price, thus more revenue for the company.

Yes, the iPads revenue has declined for the past 2-3 quarters. That's mainly because a lot of people have no reason to replace their iPads every year.

They could sell tons more Macs if they actually devoted as much effort to Mac development as much as they do for iPhones. Just sayin.

No, they can't. Macs or more generally, the computers market has peaked a while ago where it is now shrinking slowly as people switch to mobile devices.

The smartphone market still have a lot of room to grow, especially overseas, which is why over 60% of Apple's profits are from the overseas.

Eventually, the smartphone market will peak and Apple's growth will stall and starts to stabilize just like the Macs.
 
Finally, iPod is gone as a category, now just part of 'other products'.
 
This year's releases:

  • A new Mac Mini that's actually worse than the older one.
  • A "new" iPad Mini that is basically last year's model with a half-assed gold paintjob.
  • A new iPad Noob (where is the iPad Pro, Apple?).
  • A phablet.
  • The iPhone 6, which is actually nice, but marred by tons of quality control issues (call gate, bend gate, and so on).

Yep, a truly exciting year! :rolleyes::eek::mad::mad::mad:

But hey, Apple has bought Beats! Now they have a woman beater on the staff! Surely that's a recipe for success!

Umm. I think you missed this part:

Apple's guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2015 includes expected revenue of $63.5-66.5 billion and gross margin between 37.5 and 38.5 percent.

That's roughly 10% growth over the same quarter this year.

But hey go ahead and make an ignorant comment like "surely that's a recipe for success."
 
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